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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 10:25 AM Oct 2016

‘I Have Never’ Talked About Women How Trump Did: Tapper Goes Off on Giuliani

Source: Mediaite


Tapper really wasn’t having it. He told the heavy-hitting adviser that Trump’s apology from Friday night did not feel like an apology. When Giuliani said that Trump was just an “entertainment star” when the comments were made, Tapper made it known in no uncertain terms that what Trump had said was not just casual guy talk, as some have tried to claim. He used the same words Vice President Joe Biden used yesterday and said that what Trump described was sexual assault.

“He’s talking about actions that are sexual assault,” pushed Tapper. “He was 59 or 60 years old when he said it; this isn’t something he said when he was 18 years old. He’s talking about a feeling of entitlement: Because he’s a star, he can go up to women and grab them by the vagina and it’s okay, he won’t get in trouble for it. It’s really offensive on just a basic human level. Who did he do that to?”

Giuliani said that he who hasn’t sinned should cast the first stone, which is when Tapper said this:

I will gladly tell you, Mr. Mayor: I have never said that. I have never done that. I’m happy to throw a stone. I don’t know any man — I have been in locker rooms, I’ve been a member of a fraternity; I have never heard any man ever brag about being able to maul women because they get away with it. Never.


Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/online/i-have-never-talked-about-women-how-trump-did-tapper-goes-off-on-gulinani/



A much more subdued and beaten Rudy, with the usual smugness wiped off his face, makes the sad rounds to the Sunday shows, this time replacing Gov. Christie Creme's scheduled appearance, and stumbles all over himself.

Things didn't go any better on ABC, where he subbed for Kellyanne:
VIDEO: https://www.facebook.com/ThisWeekABC/videos/1199420193434754/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE

Nor FOX:
Chris Wallace to Giuliani: Are You on My Show Because Conway ‘Was Unwilling’ to Defend Trump?
http://www.mediaite.com/online/chris-wallace-to-giuliani-are-you-on-my-show-because-conway-was-unwilling-to-defend-trump/
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‘I Have Never’ Talked About Women How Trump Did: Tapper Goes Off on Giuliani (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2016 OP
I wonder what Trump is paying/promising Rudy to go to bat livetohike Oct 2016 #1
Caligula dRumpf's AG? Amonester Oct 2016 #11
I thought that was gonna be Christie's reward Retrograde Oct 2016 #39
Maybe. Make sure *would be* and *wannabe* will remain... Amonester Oct 2016 #41
A cabinet position. MicaelS Oct 2016 #32
Yes, I think it's an important point alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #2
Good point. Trying to normalize this with "men will be men" stereotypes men.... Moonwalk Oct 2016 #27
As a MAN Iam offended being put in the category of a predator......... Old Vet Oct 2016 #42
It is just so, so, SO bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #3
He was allowed to run out the clock on Face The Nation liberal N proud Oct 2016 #6
I could believe that all the men Trump, Giuliani, Ailes, etc., hang out with tanyev Oct 2016 #7
I have never heard a man awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #20
I was starting to think I was alone or not paying attention TXCritter Oct 2016 #9
It doesn't matter if trump was a ******* movie star.. he outed himself as a Cha Oct 2016 #10
^. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #21
Can you believe it, Cha Oct 2016 #22
Lol!!! Hey Cha!!! BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #24
Ah.. of course, I forget.. the phones! Cha Oct 2016 #25
:) BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #30
Mahalo Blanche~ Cha Oct 2016 #33
If you are using windows snort Oct 2016 #37
Thank you, snort.. I'll check it when I have the time. Cha Oct 2016 #38
When deporables say "All men say stuff like this" ThoughtCriminal Oct 2016 #12
Yeah, that's really a stupid thing to say.. Cha Oct 2016 #23
Hillary has a thought. truthisfreedom Oct 2016 #15
Bwahahaha! Ligyron Oct 2016 #31
. Grassy Knoll Oct 2016 #35
They are trying to pretend it's about the words melman Oct 2016 #26
Trumps administration will be the WORST ever in America. rladdi Oct 2016 #28
You thinking he wins? Democat Oct 2016 #34
It takes a scumbag to be an apologist for sexual assault. We see Giuliani's true character. Doodley Oct 2016 #29
Rudy doesn't have respect for women either HockeyMom Oct 2016 #36
Guiliani was definitely more subdued Liberal_in_LA Oct 2016 #40
Why did you add a photograph that didn't appear in the mediaite linked article? Read the SOP. George II Oct 2016 #43
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Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
39. I thought that was gonna be Christie's reward
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 02:03 PM
Oct 2016

Giuliani would get Homeland Security, if not Defense (State going to Bolton)

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
41. Maybe. Make sure *would be* and *wannabe* will remain...
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 02:25 PM
Oct 2016

Looking good for now and better next week: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
GOTV
Future of Life depends on GOTV
(Hillary will Do Someting, Caligula dRumft won't)

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
2. Yes, I think it's an important point
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 10:32 AM
Oct 2016

If I heard a friend bragging about sexually assaulting a woman, we wouldn't be friends anymore. Period. I certainly wouldn't hire him.

This really disgraceful attempt to normalize Trump's behavior is incredible. Even the faux outrage crew in the GOP know better than to say "Oh, yeah, sure, this is how all guys talk amongst themselves. 'Grab 'em by the pussy,' sure, sure. Stop being so PC!"

I don't doubt that there's a subset of men who actually do speak in this manner, but the idea that it is a common occurrence is simply ridiculous. If it is common at all, it is common among teenagers and very young dudes. I haven't heard a grown man talking in this manner even minus the outright assault description since I was in my early twenties, and I would certainly raise my eyebrows if somebody my age (early 40's) began speaking to me about "banging chicks" or whatever. Trump was 59 when this tape was recorded. FIFTY-NINE. It's truly beyond belief.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
27. Good point. Trying to normalize this with "men will be men" stereotypes men....
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 12:12 PM
Oct 2016

...in a pretty horrible way. It casts any heterosexual male as a molester, with no control (or desire to control) their sexual impulses; a predator who views all women as objects for conquest Doesn't Rudy and the others saying "this is normal" or "nothing to see here" or even "This is good. Means he's a manly man!" even realize how bad they're making men look?

And I'm wondering why someone isn't asking Rudy. "So, are you saying you've talked this way and grabbed women this way? That you think your celebrity position entitles you to molest and assault women?" Because that seems to be what he's implying. Men will be men. You included, Rudy?

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
42. As a MAN Iam offended being put in the category of a predator.........
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 03:19 PM
Oct 2016

A man will be a man is bullshit, I have NEVER heard, spoke, nor acted like some say most men do. Don't get me wrong, I was at my peak as a young man during the sex,drugs and rock and roll era(70s-80s). I lived in Daytona beach during some pretty wild spring breaks where girls got crazy drunk,, girls were walking around in bikinis all the time. But there was ALWAYS a line a man didn't cross NEVER, NO means fucking NO period. Being put in the category of locker room talk, potty mouth, or Bill Clinton said worse is just wrong on so many levels.

bucolic_frolic

(43,178 posts)
3. It is just so, so, SO
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 10:33 AM
Oct 2016

appropriate to quote the Bible when defending Trump

Ghouliani turns off more voters than he attracts

Hopefully Christie will sub for Ghouliani next week

'He who hasn't closed the first bridge should cast the first stone.'

liberal N proud

(60,335 posts)
6. He was allowed to run out the clock on Face The Nation
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 10:45 AM
Oct 2016

His lies went on questioned. They had to get to Robby Mook about Bill Clinton being the same.

tanyev

(42,566 posts)
7. I could believe that all the men Trump, Giuliani, Ailes, etc., hang out with
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 10:49 AM
Oct 2016

do talk that way about women. Self-selection of the creepiest.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
20. I have never heard a man
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 11:59 AM
Oct 2016

talk or brag about sexually assaulting a women. Have we talked about nice tits, ass, legs, etc? Have we said something like wanting to get between her legs or in her pussy? Sure, you bet I have heard it before. But I have never heard talk about assault, which is exactly what tRump was doing.

 

TXCritter

(344 posts)
9. I was starting to think I was alone or not paying attention
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 11:02 AM
Oct 2016

I've heard guys say some dumb, juvenile, offensive stuff. But never has one admitted to me getting away with sexual assault.

Cha

(297,297 posts)
10. It doesn't matter if trump was a ******* movie star.. he outed himself as a
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 11:05 AM
Oct 2016

sexual predator and groper who went after a married woman.

I hope ghouliani goes down too.. he's as sickening as his master trump.

Good for Tapper stepping up.. I posted a few hours ago that whomever interviews him has to call him & trump out or they're as culpable as they are for perverting down America and propping up a sexual predator.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
24. Lol!!! Hey Cha!!!
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 12:06 PM
Oct 2016


I'm almost always on my iPhone. There's an emoji button, and the little heart ❤️ comes from that.
For some reason, DU's program can read it!


snort

(2,334 posts)
37. If you are using windows
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 01:53 PM
Oct 2016

you will find a heart and lots more in your character map. Click start and type 'character' and you will find that plus something called a 'private character editor' which allows you to create your own stuff with a paint brush. Have fun.

Cha

(297,297 posts)
38. Thank you, snort.. I'll check it when I have the time.
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 01:55 PM
Oct 2016
you will find a heart and lots more in your character map. Click start and type 'character' and you will find that plus something called a 'private character editor' which allows you to create your own stuff with a paint brush. Have fun.

Cha

(297,297 posts)
23. Yeah, that's really a stupid thing to say..
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 12:06 PM
Oct 2016
Giuliani said that he who hasn’t sinned should cast the first stone, which is when Tapper said this:

I will gladly tell you, Mr. Mayor: I have never said that. I have never done that. I’m happy to throw a stone. I don’t know any man — I have been in locker rooms, I’ve been a member of a fraternity; I have never heard any man ever brag about being able to maul women because they get away with it. Never.

Tapper's answer was brilliant.
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
26. They are trying to pretend it's about the words
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 12:10 PM
Oct 2016

Granted, there are people that get uptight about those words.

But this is about something much different, and it never would have been a story if it was just that.

rladdi

(581 posts)
28. Trumps administration will be the WORST ever in America.
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 12:12 PM
Oct 2016

Christie will chose all those sex abuser Trump has leading him now. I can see USA being destroyed under Trump. He will put this nation back 200 years. Trump is senile, mentally ill and Rudy protected Trump when he was mayor.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
36. Rudy doesn't have respect for women either
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 01:27 PM
Oct 2016

Move your your mistress in Gracie Mansion with your current wife and children still living there? Have her march in City Parades with you while married? This was the "Country's Mayor" before 9/11. He didn't have respect for his wife, nor his own DAUGHTER either like Trump.

No wonder Rudy's daughter is supporting Hillary.

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