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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 05:55 PM Oct 2016

Hurricane Matthew unearths civil war cannonballs on US beach

Source: BBC

Hurricane Matthew, the most powerful storm to make US landfall in more than a decade, has unearthed civil war cannonballs on a beach in South Carolina, officials say.

A bomb squad was called after the historic ammunition was uncovered on Folly Beach on Sunday. Residents nearby were warned that they might hear a small boom as the area is made safe.

The first shots of the civil war were fired at nearby Fort Sumter in 1861.

The cannonballs could not immediately be reached because of rising tides but operatives will get to work when the ocean level drops, Charleston County Sheriff spokesman Eric Watson said.


Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37611586



really cool and all in a pile, maybe a ship broke up along the coast? Why did the bomb squad set explosives?

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Hurricane Matthew unearths civil war cannonballs on US beach (Original Post) Sunlei Oct 2016 OP
Wow Cary Oct 2016 #1
Folly Beach was my hang out when we lived near Charleston livetohike Oct 2016 #2
Perhaps Sophiegirl Oct 2016 #3
More info BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #4
Confederate Treason on display jpak Oct 2016 #5
Bomb squad? REALLY? jmowreader Oct 2016 #6
Many rounds during the Civil War were essentially hollow iron shot... paleotn Oct 2016 #8
Thanks for the info. Interesting history. KittyWampus Oct 2016 #11
From 2008 elmac Oct 2016 #12
Damn! That explains the bomb squad, then. Thanks for the info! randome Oct 2016 #15
A lot of fighting in and around Folly, etc. paleotn Oct 2016 #7
incredible find. KittyWampus Oct 2016 #10
I've collected several Civil War relics over the years elmac Oct 2016 #13
Who Knows What Lies Below? colsohlibgal Oct 2016 #14

livetohike

(22,144 posts)
2. Folly Beach was my hang out when we lived near Charleston
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 06:04 PM
Oct 2016

in the late 70's. Thanks for posting this .

BumRushDaShow

(129,026 posts)
4. More info
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 06:16 PM
Oct 2016
Bomb squads successfully detonated Civil War-era cannon balls uncovered on a beach near Charleston after Hurricane Matthew ripped through the area.

Charleston County Sheriff’s Department said Sunday that the majority of the ordnance were successfully detonated, but a few were transported to the nearby Navy Base.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/10/10/bomb-squad-detonates-civil-war-era-cannon-balls-unearthed-hurricane/91848146/


So the kept some and transported those to a navy base. Apparently there may have been a mix of solid balls and those containing gunpowder so they detonated the ones with gunpowder.

Am wondering how after all these years and under water, how any gunpowder might have survived the rusty balls.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
6. Bomb squad? REALLY?
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 06:32 PM
Oct 2016

Cannonballs, aka "round shot," don't explode because they have no filler. A round-shot charge for a 12-pound cannon was one 12-pound solid iron ball with two and a half pounds of black powder behind it. You fire this thing and it just tears people to pieces...and when the ball lands it's still got enough kinetic energy to tear the fuck out of anything in its path. (Good war story from the Revolution: During one minor battle, the British and Americans had the same caliber cannons and both had plenty of powder, but the Americans had no cannonballs. The American commander came up with a wonderful solution: "One pint of rum to any man who picks up a cannonball and brings it back to the battery." So they'd fire a shot, we'd pick the ball up and fire it back, they'd pick the ball up and fire it back...Rufus T. Firefly's seven-cent nickel all over again.

paleotn

(17,918 posts)
8. Many rounds during the Civil War were essentially hollow iron shot...
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 07:07 PM
Oct 2016

filled with powder and a timed fuse. Other than the usual applications, they were also useful against fortifications such as Battery Wagner over on Morris Island. The point was for a shell to explode somewhere above a fortification's walls so as to shower the defenders with shrapnel. Needless to say, they weren't always reliable, but still a step above solid shot. If they are hollow shot, even in water that long, it's probably still prudent to take precautions.

Sorry to go on and on, but I've been fascinated but such things since I was old enough to walk around, hunting for minnie balls after a heavy rain.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
12. From 2008
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 07:40 PM
Oct 2016

Published May 02, 2008 Associated Press

CHESTER, Va. – Like many boys in the South, Sam White got hooked on the Civil War early, digging up rusting bullets and military buttons in the battle-scarred earth of his hometown.

As an adult, he crisscrossed the Virginia countryside in search of wartime relics — weapons, battle flags, even artillery shells buried in the red clay. He sometimes put on diving gear to feel for treasures hidden in the black muck of river bottoms.

But in February, White's hobby cost him his life: A cannonball he was restoring exploded, killing him in his driveway.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
15. Damn! That explains the bomb squad, then. Thanks for the info!
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 08:08 PM
Oct 2016

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paleotn

(17,918 posts)
7. A lot of fighting in and around Folly, etc.
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 06:48 PM
Oct 2016

...2 battles were fought to take Ft. Wagner, a bit north on Morris Island. The US Navy shelled the hell out of Wagner both times. Plus occasionally shelling other rebel positions in and around the area. Overall, a whole lot of action around Charleston from 1861 to its fall in 1865. Thus, you just never know what you'll uncover all around the area. That's not even counting the action that took place during the Revolution.

Bomb squad since many shells in those days were explosive....ie. hollow iron shot with powder inside and a fuse. In the water a hell of a long time, but it's prudent to take no chances. One of those exploding would ruin your whole day.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
13. I've collected several Civil War relics over the years
Mon Oct 10, 2016, 07:48 PM
Oct 2016

Including a little 21" Austrian Carbine used by one of Jeb stuart's cavalrymen during the battle of Gettysburg. That era always fascinated me.

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