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ET Awful

(24,753 posts)
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:44 PM Oct 2016

Glenn Beck: Hillary Clinton is a 'moral, ethical choice' for Republicans

Source: CNN

Conservative political commentator and media personality Glenn Beck said the election of Hillary Clinton as president by refusing to support Donald Trump is "a moral, ethical choice" for Republicans.

The outspoken opponent of the GOP's presidential nominee wrote on Facebook over the weekend that every voter had to decide for themselves what constitutes "a bridge too far," after the release of footage last week in which Trump can be heard making lewd and sexually aggressive comments about women.
"It is not acceptable to ask a moral, dignified man to cast his vote to help elect an immoral man who is absent decency or dignity," Beck wrote on Facebook in reference to Trump. "If the consequence of standing against Trump and for principles is indeed the election of Hillary Clinton, so be it. At least it is a moral, ethical choice."
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Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/glenn-beck-hillary-clinton-moral-ethical-choice/index.html



Now there's a headline I never thought I'd see.
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Glenn Beck: Hillary Clinton is a 'moral, ethical choice' for Republicans (Original Post) ET Awful Oct 2016 OP
For once, I agree with Glenn Beck. nt SunSeeker Oct 2016 #1
I think he’s setting himself busterbrown Oct 2016 #5
I think so too PatSeg Oct 2016 #22
Or meds TexasBushwhacker Oct 2016 #49
Oh yes PatSeg Oct 2016 #51
I read his bio on Wikipedia TexasBushwhacker Oct 2016 #52
That would explain a lot PatSeg Oct 2016 #53
Probably LiberalLovinLug Oct 2016 #31
Brilliant - n/t RussBLib Oct 2016 #42
Well if that is what he is trying hopefully no one from any reputable news organization cstanleytech Oct 2016 #32
This transformation has been his plan for awhile BlueStreak Oct 2016 #41
Hmmmm.... interesting theory. Now I'm waiting for Rush-Limp-balls to flip. groundloop Oct 2016 #44
Limbaugh is mostly irrelevant these days. He's been done for over a decade. BlueStreak Oct 2016 #46
Even a stopped clock is right atleast once. nt cstanleytech Oct 2016 #30
Wait, what? Are you sure that being a moral, ethical choice isn't Beck's reason to NOT vote for her? Towlie Oct 2016 #47
I think Hell is freezing over..... CherokeeDem Oct 2016 #2
He is just a rat fleeing the sinking ship thejoker123 Oct 2016 #33
THAT explains the pig that flew over my house this morning. n/t Binkie The Clown Oct 2016 #3
And the donkey that flew over mine! PatSeg Oct 2016 #23
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2016 #4
"...things fall apart." calimary Oct 2016 #6
Indeed. What rough beast . . . ET Awful Oct 2016 #11
Beck is a grifter and opportunist. bluesbassman Oct 2016 #7
Beck is a scary Christian ultraconservative, but he's consistent in his beliefs. Xithras Oct 2016 #8
For all its horror, this election is nothing if not fascinating. nt stevenleser Oct 2016 #9
wait i am sober right Coolest Ranger Oct 2016 #10
My thoughts exactly Ranger, Remember him walking around his show dressed up as George Washington.. Old Vet Oct 2016 #13
Meanwhile Greenwald and the other alt-lefties are in the tank for Trump Blue_Tires Oct 2016 #12
One of the Nice Developments in the Last 5-7 Years DarthDem Oct 2016 #25
the destruction of the conservatives is pretty much complete, thank you trump!!! beachbum bob Oct 2016 #14
Yep, I pinched myself. I'm awake. herding cats Oct 2016 #15
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Initech Oct 2016 #17
The Mormons have come down hard on Trump Brainstormy Oct 2016 #18
Beck is also Liberalagogo Oct 2016 #20
When you hear Glenn Beck say that Trump is "too unstable" to be President, it's over! George II Oct 2016 #19
Glenn Fricking Beck??? Is this a joke? I just checked snopes! adigal Oct 2016 #21
Beck is trying to stay relevant as the political landscape shifts bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #24
God damn! JustAnotherGen Oct 2016 #26
I've never actually watched Beck on tv but I do recall him CentralMass Oct 2016 #27
Sorry, Glenn Beck, but you're still a douchebag. . . DinahMoeHum Oct 2016 #28
Strange times.... Not Sure Oct 2016 #29
You're still an asshole Glenn progressoid Oct 2016 #34
Did someone adjust his meds and finally get it right? TNNurse Oct 2016 #35
Glenn Beck has less than zero authority on morality and ethics. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #36
How nice MowCowWhoHow III Oct 2016 #37
That tells me Beck has a modicum of sanity ailsagirl Oct 2016 #38
Old adage about a broken clock packman Oct 2016 #39
I'm confused Hayduke Bomgarte Oct 2016 #40
I need to find the other article-- Lulu KC Oct 2016 #43
Whatever else can be said for him, Glenn Beck cares for his country. forest444 Oct 2016 #45
well I wouldn't go that far. foo_bar Oct 2016 #54
Well put. forest444 Oct 2016 #55
yeah. foo_bar Oct 2016 #57
You know, I've had the same suspicion practically from the moment he announced. forest444 Oct 2016 #58
When scumbags fear for their future with their own candidate... sofa king Oct 2016 #48
a flock of Pigs just flew by my window.. BadGimp Oct 2016 #50
Even lunatics get it right sometimes. milestogo Oct 2016 #56

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
5. I think he’s setting himself
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:54 PM
Oct 2016

as a moderate.. New image..Perhaps a contributor for msnbc or Cnn as a beginning.

Is he fucking nuts or what..

PatSeg

(47,613 posts)
22. I think so too
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:58 PM
Oct 2016

I saw him twice on Lawrence O'Donnell's show and he was extremely rational and sane. Maybe that was some kind of audition in his mind?

TexasBushwhacker

(20,219 posts)
49. Or meds
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 07:59 PM
Oct 2016

Not to make light of mental illness, but when he goes on his wild paranoid rants, he reminds me of my dad when he was manic.

PatSeg

(47,613 posts)
51. Oh yes
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 10:09 PM
Oct 2016

His rants were pretty extraordinary. I was never sure if it was real or performance. Perhaps he really is on medication, he certainly is different.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,219 posts)
52. I read his bio on Wikipedia
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 10:53 PM
Oct 2016

It said that he had a drug and alcohol problem about 20 years ago and that he admitted he was ADHD. A lot of bipolar folks self medicate with street drugs and/or alcohol. For my dad it was booze.

PatSeg

(47,613 posts)
53. That would explain a lot
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 09:31 AM
Oct 2016

I recall hearing he was an alcoholic, but I didn't know about the ADHD. He certainly does appear like a recovered alcoholic and/or drug addict.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
31. Probably
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 02:46 PM
Oct 2016

as his own show has been all an act for the most part. Although I haven't even seen a clip of him for years now. No one can actually be as crazy as he put on. He found out, just like Trump, how anyone who has the gift of the gab can use and abuse the FEAR trigger to rake in viewers and supporters using any kind of lies and insane theories to back up your crafted view of how thing are. People will pay you money to scare the shit out of them. Someone to explain why you are so miserable, feel so insignificant and not getting ahead; that there must be some plot brewing for that to happen.

He's now made multi-millions doing that and I think he sees that the writing is on the wall for the crazies he helped create. When Trump loses, he is smart enough to predict the backlash afterwards, and while Christie, Pence, Giuliani and others are caught in the net along with Trump, he will be able to brag about how he saw it coming and that he will explain it all to you in his NEW SHOW!

cstanleytech

(26,320 posts)
32. Well if that is what he is trying hopefully no one from any reputable news organization
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 02:47 PM
Oct 2016

is gullible enough to believe it and hire him.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
41. This transformation has been his plan for awhile
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 03:56 PM
Oct 2016

Beck is a complicated person. He certainly seems to be seriously disturbed in some ways, but basically I think he played a role in his Faux days. Faux was the biggest stage he had been on and he wanted to be the most noticed actor.

And while his hyperbole often rose to the world class level and beyond, some of the things he was saying were actually thought out. Many of the left ridiculed him when he talked about the desire of extremists to establish a regional caliphate. But that is EXACTLY what ISIS tried to do -- and largely succeeded. On that basis alone, I think Beck should be given some consideration as a person who is not nearly as insane as his stage persona.

I would equate him to Jim Cramer of Mad Money. Both play a schtick. Neither is Nostradamus, but they are both probably a lot more sensible then they appear when playing to their respective constituencies.

And who knows? Beck may see an opportunity to rejoin a somewhat less insane Faux "News" in the post-Ailes era. He may see Limbaugh at the end of his time, and Britebart/Drudge/Trump going off the deep end to oblivion. He may be anticipating a realignment of the Right, with opportunities for reasonable conservatives with some street cred. This is a place Krautheimer has tried to occupy. And years ago, that would have been William Buckley and William Rusher.

It will be interesting. I think this is a very conscious move on Beck's part, trying to get to the front of the next parade.

Towlie

(5,328 posts)
47. Wait, what? Are you sure that being a moral, ethical choice isn't Beck's reason to NOT vote for her?
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 06:28 PM
Oct 2016

calimary

(81,511 posts)
6. "...things fall apart."
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:55 PM
Oct 2016

From the poem "The Second Coming" by William Butler Yeats. I've never been creeped out by a poem before, but I sure was with this one. It's even more relevant, and creepy, NOW, than it was when I first studied it in high school English Lit class.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.


Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/43290

ET Awful

(24,753 posts)
11. Indeed. What rough beast . . .
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:08 PM
Oct 2016

Last edited Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:41 PM - Edit history (1)

This one has always creeped me out too. Still one of my favorites.

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
7. Beck is a grifter and opportunist.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:56 PM
Oct 2016

His media empire is crumbling. He sees the writing on the wall so I suspect he will be reinventing himself over the next few months to be the voice of "sane" conservatives.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
8. Beck is a scary Christian ultraconservative, but he's consistent in his beliefs.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:59 PM
Oct 2016

Unlike many so-called "evangelicals", he seems to be sticking to his moral guns and has been blasting Trump for his un-Christian behavior for months now. He's pointedly refused to endorse Trump, and has called out Christian leaders who HAVE endorsed him for ignoring the fact that Trump is a greedy womanizer who lives in opposition to all of the ideals outlined in the Bible. He has also blatantly drawn parallels between the Trump campaign and the rise of the German brownshirts. This new comment about Clinton isn't particularly surprising in that light.

Beck isn't endorsing Clinton though. He's made it fairly clear that he's voting for Johnson because he sees the Libertarians as the "least offensive option" in this election.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
13. My thoughts exactly Ranger, Remember him walking around his show dressed up as George Washington..
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:13 PM
Oct 2016

Mr tea party endorsing Clinton, This election is becoming more and more twisted on every level.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
12. Meanwhile Greenwald and the other alt-lefties are in the tank for Trump
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:10 PM
Oct 2016

I swear to christ I hate 2016...

DarthDem

(5,256 posts)
25. One of the Nice Developments in the Last 5-7 Years
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:58 PM
Oct 2016

. . . has been the utter unraveling of the sanctimonious, far-less-intelligent-than-he-believes-himself-to-be Greenwald.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
14. the destruction of the conservatives is pretty much complete, thank you trump!!!
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:21 PM
Oct 2016

like a dream come true

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
15. Yep, I pinched myself. I'm awake.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:22 PM
Oct 2016

I know a Tea Partyist in Texas who may have just choked to death today.

Initech

(100,105 posts)
17. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:36 PM
Oct 2016

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?????

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
21. Glenn Fricking Beck??? Is this a joke? I just checked snopes!
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:51 PM
Oct 2016

Wow. Trump is going to lose in epic numbers. And I hope his daughter, who is so worried about her "brand," but not about daddy groping women, loses her business.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
27. I've never actually watched Beck on tv but I do recall him
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
Oct 2016

lamenting over the damage that the hate mongering that he's spewed over the years has caused. I think he suggested that he has probably earned a spot in hell.

DinahMoeHum

(21,812 posts)
28. Sorry, Glenn Beck, but you're still a douchebag. . .
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 02:09 PM
Oct 2016

. . .It's not the fall that kills, it's the sudden stop.

ailsagirl

(22,899 posts)
38. That tells me Beck has a modicum of sanity
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 03:25 PM
Oct 2016

Unlike others of his ilk

I am not familiar with him but he can't be all bad if he's putting country first

COUNTRY FIRST!!

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
39. Old adage about a broken clock
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 03:27 PM
Oct 2016

being spot-on twice a day. Glen sees his world falling apart and is sniffing around for new cash piles like a dog sniffing another's ass

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
40. I'm confused
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 03:49 PM
Oct 2016

What in the hell would someone like Bleck know about ethics or morals? Someone else put those words in his mouth.

Lulu KC

(2,574 posts)
43. I need to find the other article--
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 04:09 PM
Oct 2016

The one I read last night made it sound like he made this choice because he thinks they can bring her down if she's elected, whereas if Trump is elected it's the living end of the GOP. I didn't pick up on that in this CNN piece. I'll see if I can find it. It made chills run down my spine.
(Reading so much and laughing at so many pu**y memes that I can't keep my sources straight! Please don't judge me.)

forest444

(5,902 posts)
45. Whatever else can be said for him, Glenn Beck cares for his country.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 04:47 PM
Oct 2016

It was a matter of time until he'd arrive at the only sensible conclusion for those of us that do, that being that the GOP has unfortunately been radicalized and driven off the deep end beyond any point of return.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
55. Well put.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:45 AM
Oct 2016

Plus, as unstable and changeable as that man is, he might change his mind on a whim five days from now.

foo_bar

(4,193 posts)
57. yeah.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:47 PM
Oct 2016
Half* the un-endorsers already re-endorsed, so I'd just step back and enjoy the show. I'm starting to think Trump is a closet Democrat, like he couldn't have done a better job of ****ing the GOP if he tried.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
58. You know, I've had the same suspicion practically from the moment he announced.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 01:45 PM
Oct 2016

I mentioned it in the past once or twice here on DU, to unmitigated scorn and laughter.

But who's to say? Trump's opinions have usually been centrist to center-left, he and the Clintons have been friends for years (or were, anyway), and really, he's nothing if not a showman.

If 30 or 50 years from now some talented historian discovers that Trump did, in fact, run to help assure that Hillary could be our next president, that would be one hell of a show.

I'll tell you though: I'll always be grateful to him for derailing Jeb's 'shock-and-awe' campaign. There no doubt in my mind that if Jeb had won the nomination, the Bushes and their allies in Wall Street and intelligence would have made sure he won (think USS Cole - which we almost had another incident similar to, btw), and frankly I don't think U.S. democracy as we know it could survive another Bush.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
48. When scumbags fear for their future with their own candidate...
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 06:50 PM
Oct 2016

... you know it's gone too far.

First George Will, now Glenn Beck? Who's next? The reanimated corpse of Lee Atwater?

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