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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 07:01 PM Oct 2016

Two women told us Donald Trump had touched them inappropriately, one on a plane, the other outside..

Source: New York Times

Two women told us Donald Trump had touched them inappropriately, one on a plane, the other outside an elevator in Trump Tower

Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:43 PM EDT

Donald J. Trump was emphatic in the second presidential debate: Yes, he had boasted about kissing women without permission and grabbing their genitals. But he had never actually done those things, he said.

“No,” he declared under questioning on Sunday evening, “I have not.”

At that moment, sitting at home in Manhattan, Jessica Leeds, 74, felt he was lying to her face. “I wanted to punch the screen,” she said in an interview in her apartment.

More than three decades ago, when she was a traveling businesswoman at a paper company, Ms. Leeds said, she sat beside Mr. Trump in the first-class cabin of a flight to New York. They had never met before.

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Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?emc=edit_na_20161012&nlid=57435284&ref=cta&_r=0

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Two women told us Donald Trump had touched them inappropriately, one on a plane, the other outside.. (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2016 OP
I can imagine the flood gates are open Johonny Oct 2016 #1
He's definitely skipping the next debate, geek tragedy Oct 2016 #2
I hope he does. These aren't debates anyway still_one Oct 2016 #11
Yep. I hope the sniveling, sniffling cowardly punk-ass beta male rich man's son geek tragedy Oct 2016 #12
Gropenator jpak Oct 2016 #3
Ha! forest444 Oct 2016 #9
How did he not know this stuff would come out? mcar Oct 2016 #4
He knows. He just does what he does every minute or less... Amonester Oct 2016 #14
I think his ego is so out of control that he thinks nothing can touch him. sarae Oct 2016 #26
Fucking perverted, sex-addicted sociopath. PearliePoo2 Oct 2016 #5
+100 narnian60 Oct 2016 #20
I expect these are the first of many who will come forward BainsBane Oct 2016 #6
I believe this is just the beginning and much much worse to come.... Pachamama Oct 2016 #27
He's a predator. herding cats Oct 2016 #7
Watching media, this is taking off fast. Multiple FB posts, CNN, MSNBC. nolabear Oct 2016 #8
Trump is a pig - but that's obvious. Jim__ Oct 2016 #10
please do not insult our porcine brethren and sistren. der drumpfenfuhrer is one sick, twisted, niyad Oct 2016 #23
Very brave woman and very credible as seen in the video linked to the NYTimes article wishstar Oct 2016 #13
Two notable parts of the article alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #15
Trump's Lied So Often Ccarmona Oct 2016 #16
Brave women. Rose Siding Oct 2016 #17
Yes, indeed. narnian60 Oct 2016 #22
Anyone surprised by this? unitedwethrive Oct 2016 #21
Niot even his wife, I'd bet. Only surprised he has the gall to continue. He should just concede. Coyotl Oct 2016 #24
Arrest that man BeyondGeography Oct 2016 #25
Yes, it goes back decades with him HockeyMom Oct 2016 #28
I think Donald picked Ms. Leeds to sit by him. HoosierDebbie Oct 2016 #29
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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. He's definitely skipping the next debate,
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 07:05 PM
Oct 2016

And if this is what he does on a commercial airplane, what the hell would he do where his goons were in charge of security?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. Yep. I hope the sniveling, sniffling cowardly punk-ass beta male rich man's son
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 07:41 PM
Oct 2016

hides behind his teleprompter for the rest of the campaign.

And wipe out all of his enablers in the Republican Congressional Caucus.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
9. Ha!
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 07:30 PM
Oct 2016

My friends and I used to call Schwarzenegger that when I lived in So Cal - and that was before we learned of that love child of his.

mcar

(42,375 posts)
4. How did he not know this stuff would come out?
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 07:07 PM
Oct 2016

That story makes me nauseous, remembering my first jobs.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
14. He knows. He just does what he does every minute or less...
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 08:06 PM
Oct 2016

Lies about it, saying he never did these things, that it's just the crooked (projection) X and X who falsely attack him because he is the only one who can fix everyone's problems the first day he will become Caligula-in-Chief.

And his base of deplorables eat his BS up.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
26. I think his ego is so out of control that he thinks nothing can touch him.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:29 AM
Oct 2016

His biggest downfall is his narcissism and overconfidence.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
6. I expect these are the first of many who will come forward
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 07:15 PM
Oct 2016

Last edited Wed Oct 12, 2016, 08:29 PM - Edit history (1)

He is a serial predator.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
27. I believe this is just the beginning and much much worse to come....
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:35 AM
Oct 2016

As if what we already have heard is not disgusting and revolting enough...

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
7. He's a predator.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 07:15 PM
Oct 2016

From the article:

Ms. Crooks was a 22-year-old receptionist at Bayrock Group, a real estate investment and development company in Trump Tower in Manhattan, when she encountered Mr. Trump outside an elevator in the building one morning in 2005.

Aware that her company did business with Mr. Trump, she turned and introduced herself. They shook hands, but Mr. Trump would not let go, she said. Instead, he began kissing her cheeks. Then, she said, he “kissed me directly on the mouth.”

It didn’t feel like an accident, she said. It felt like a violation.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
8. Watching media, this is taking off fast. Multiple FB posts, CNN, MSNBC.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 07:25 PM
Oct 2016

I hope the lovely woman in the video goes straight to the heart of everyone in the country. She's just a person...just a person whose body he thought he could abuse.

niyad

(113,576 posts)
23. please do not insult our porcine brethren and sistren. der drumpfenfuhrer is one sick, twisted,
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 09:48 PM
Oct 2016

perverted, ugly, lying, thieving, hypocritical, narcissistic grifter.

wishstar

(5,271 posts)
13. Very brave woman and very credible as seen in the video linked to the NYTimes article
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 07:45 PM
Oct 2016

"In a phone interview on Tuesday night, a highly agitated Mr. Trump denied every one of the women’s claims.

“None of this ever took place,” said Mr. Trump, who began shouting at The Times reporter who was questioning him. He said that The Times was making up the allegations to hurt him and that he would sue the news organization if it reported them.

“You are a disgusting human being,” he told the reporter as she questioned him about the women’s claims"


 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
15. Two notable parts of the article
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 08:06 PM
Oct 2016

1) He sees Ms. Leeds again a few years later at a charity event in New York. He remembers her, and calls her a crude name. This is the woman who fled from him on an airplane after he grabbed her breasts and put his hand up her skirt.

2) He returns to the place of employment (!!! HOLY FUCK!!!) of Ms. Crooks and pressures her into giving him her phone number, for a "modeling agency"!

This is a very, very bad and dangerous person.

My God, it's worse than we even suspected.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
16. Trump's Lied So Often
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 08:08 PM
Oct 2016

Why would anyone believe his denials now.
Plus his campaign said to retaliate, they're going to bring up more trash on Pres. Bill Clinton. They just don't get it, that these allegations are being brought forth by the media and independent third parties. The Clinton/Kaine campaign have noting to do with releasing these claims. So why does the Trump campaign think this strategy will work?

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
17. Brave women.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 08:18 PM
Oct 2016

Conservative media hacks and alt righters will chew them up, not to mention how the prev will slander them.

Thank you, my sisters.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
28. Yes, it goes back decades with him
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 08:29 AM
Oct 2016

We were both in our 20's when he followed me down that Manhattan street. I was one of the lucky ones to escape him.

It is a pattern of behavior. It is who he was a young man too. I was watching an interview of a woman who said he gave her a "Private Tour" in the 90's. Hearing those words sent chills through my spine because he said those exact same words to me some 20 years earlier. OMG. He didn't change his line after all those years?

I feel so, so sorry for all these women. As my Nana used to say, "There but for the Grace of God, Go I". It makes me want to cry.

HoosierDebbie

(292 posts)
29. I think Donald picked Ms. Leeds to sit by him.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 11:59 AM
Oct 2016

In the video portion of the story, Ms. Leeds explains that a stewardess invited her to sit in first class. I imagine the stewardess was recruited by Mr. Trump to summon Ms. Leeds to sit beside him. Ms. Leeds was probably able to leave the seat next to him after he touched her because she had the original seat to go back to.

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