Norway asked to host rotational force of US Marines
Source: Associated Press
Norway asked to host rotational force of US Marines
Updated 12:35 pm, Wednesday, October 19, 2016
STOCKHOLM (AP) The United States wants to send a 300-strong rotational force of U.S. Marines to Norway, a NATO member that shares a border with Russia in the Arctic.
Norwegian Defense Ministry spokesman Lars Gjemble said Wednesday that "a limited rotational U.S. Marine Corps presence in Norway is a possible option currently being considered."
Maj. Gen. Niel E. Nelson, the Commander of U.S. Marine Corps Forces in Europe and Africa, confirmed the plans in a statement, adding "it would be premature to discuss possible implementation of such an initiative" before the political process is completed.
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Maj. Richard K. Ulsh, a Germany-based Marine Corps spokesman, said it would be the first time U.S. Marines are stationed in Norway.
Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/world/article/Norway-asked-to-host-rotational-force-of-US-9983127.php
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Too bad hardly anyone is paying attention.
Marengo
(3,477 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)McKim
(2,412 posts)More Warmongering from "our" govt. Are they trying to spark an incident?
Marengo
(3,477 posts)Seemed happy for our presence. There was NO love or trust for the Soviet Union. I don't know if that's the case now, but the negative attitudes were very strong.
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)Marengo
(3,477 posts)Besides, having participated in one, I had the impression the Norwegians were happy to send a certain message to the SU.
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)Marengo
(3,477 posts)Operational readiness in coordination with Norwegian forces. It's no more threatening than the thousands of NATO troops routinely and voluntarily hosted by Norway.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Enough gear and ammo to equip 15,000 Marines.
EX500rider
(10,849 posts)cstanleytech
(26,293 posts)and now each of them can defeat 100,000 soldiers single handed before breakfast.
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)They were not invited. Our government invited itself.
Marengo
(3,477 posts)EX500rider
(10,849 posts)You mean besides the annual NATO exercises held in Norway every year with thousands of troops from different countries?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_Response
Believe it or not, some countries and citizens welcome US troops with open arms.
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)We all know oligarchs everywhere who live at the great expense of their people always look for ways to increase their wealth. They are pleased as punch to sell out the interests of the people. That's why the people don't like them.
Marengo
(3,477 posts)EX500rider
(10,849 posts),,,,,all which has zero to do with the Norwegians wanting a US tripwire to keep the Russians at bay.
Believe it or not, in many parts of the world the boogieman is not the US but another country, in this case Russia.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)She can keep an eye on Puntin's head rearing activities.
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)Revere that one.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)And he is selling us out? Because that is what I believe you are saying. He had to approve sending those troops there. I think you need to delete your post, or else edit it.
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)EX500rider
(10,849 posts)melm00se
(4,993 posts)have no love lost between the 2.
There have been plenty of military conflicts in that region and there is plenty of blame to go around over the last couple of centuries.
TomVilmer
(1,832 posts)That is the words of the Norwegian Peace Council.:
"... Deployment of 300 US troops at Værnes will be a clear violation of Norwegian base and détente policy since 1949. At a time when tensions between Russia and NATO increases, Norway should not contribute to unnecessary escalation of the conflict level. Norwegian Peace Council believes that it is difficult to imagine that an American fighting force at Værnes will not be considered a provocation by the Russian side. ... The US Marine Corps may be in place at Værnes within a relatively short time. It should be obvious that foreign countries' armed forces should not have bases on Norwegian soil while Norway is not attacked or are under threat of attack. Stationing violate the current political line in Norway since 1949, and should make all warning lights flashing. ..."
Norway's biggest news paper Aftenposten:
"300 US Marines in Nord-Trøndelag have limited military significance. But the political signal power is large if the deployment can be interpreted as a breach of a restraint that has characterized the Norwegian security policy for nearly 70 years. Something like that will fit like a glove for Moscow's propaganda apparatus."
Norway's biggest liberal news paper Klassekampen:
"Preparations to receive the US Marines is thus long since started, but the members of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and Defence were not informed. This raises constitutional questions."
Other reactions:
"Northern Norway will be laid waste and sacrificed at a possible nuke attack." - "The politicians who conducts this total prostration of the world's biggest war machine is on the other side guaranteed fat international positions and accounts." - "We need a defense of Norway - not of the USA."
US Bases are not a gift. They are a burden.
EX500rider
(10,849 posts)How so, the US pays high rent for many of them and injects a lot of dollars in the local economy.
TomVilmer
(1,832 posts)See my earlier post about Thule Air Base, where the Greenland people are getting screwed economically again and again. Lost nuclear bombs, nuclear waste and all other kind of waste getting released now the ice is melting. Or read about the bigger bases around the world, spreading corruption, drugs and prostitution and destroying fragile environment and culture. The price is too big for your hosts!
EX500rider
(10,849 posts)That's up to them isn't it?
A US base spreads corruption? How?
Drugs and prostitution exist with or without US bases.
US bases destroy culture? How?
TomVilmer
(1,832 posts)"That's up to them isn't it?".
Think about the difference in power for small countries like Norway. This is in no way a negotiation between equals. Try to read my links, and return with something a bit qualified, thanks!
EX500rider
(10,849 posts)TomVilmer
(1,832 posts)EX500rider
(10,849 posts)EX500rider
(10,849 posts)You make a statement and I say "How" is not a contradiction but a question.
TomVilmer
(1,832 posts)I gave you full sentences with qualifying links.
TomVilmer
(1,832 posts)... and tell which small countries managed to kick out US bases. Cuba would like to know how. Greenland would like to get rent, but your squatters up there occupying the area refuse to pay for the space, and have never done it. Neither Greenland nor Denmark needs that base, but we have to accept it.
Judi Lynn
(160,542 posts)each year as payment on a lease the US made in an agreement with a US puppet in 1903. Of course, never adjusted for inflation, etc., but the country wouldn't take it, even then, as that agreement was made with a US puppet.
Small countries prefer to keep a low profile if they aren't connected to powerful allies, knowing already, what the most powerful country in the world can and would do to them if it decided to punish them as it has other countries trying to protect their people, their sovereignty.
http://www.soaw.org/presente/images/stories/artists/usinterventions.pdf
(Click for information.)
Half a century of U.S. interventions in Latin America, in one map
http://knowmore.washingtonpost.com/2014/02/11/half-a-century-of-u-s-interventions-in-latin-america-in-one-map/
EX500rider
(10,849 posts)EX500rider
(10,849 posts)Libya
Uzbekistan
Philippines
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)Enough equipment and ammo for 15,000 Marines.