Smith Family Member Says Trump ‘Crossed the Line and Took It a Little Too Far’ At Al Smith Dinner
Source: Mediaite
by Justin Baragona | 10:44 am, October 21st, 2016
Following last nights Al Smith Dinner, Al Smith V appeared on CNNs New Day to discuss the speeches given by presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.
Trump has come under fire for the tone of his speech as many of the jokes he delivered at Clintons expense were seen as mean-spirited and against the tradition of the event, which is supposed to serve as a break from the harsh campaign rhetoric. On top of that, there was a definite lack of self-deprecation from Trump, something that is expected from the candidates who appear.
Speaking to host John Berman, Smith felt that the GOP nominee crossed the line early on and compared his performance to that of Wednesdays debate.I think what we saw a lot in the last debate a couple nights ago we saw last night, Smith said. Donald had very solid minutes early on and eventually he crossed the line and took it a little too far.
Smith also noted that Trumps darker tone made it more difficult for Clinton, who followed him up. That certainly took the tone in a different direction, Smith explained. I think ultimately at the end of the day, that made things a lot harder for Hillary when, ultimately, she got the mic she had some very funny things that she had said and I dont think they got as many laughs as they could have because the tone in the room had shifted a bit.
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Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/smith-family-member-says-trump-crossed-the-line-and-took-it-a-little-too-far-at-al-smith-dinner/
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)like his brand of never apologizing and never be self-depricating (so much for Christian humility!) but, happily, the vast majority of Americans don't.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)groundloop
(11,519 posts)I absolutely could not believe what tRump did last night, I was in shock after watching him. He's totally flipped out, it's now obvious to the world that he's absolutely filled with hatred and bigotry. He's lost any hope of ever setting foot in the White House, he knows it, and now is full of anger and is going full scorched earth.
MBS
(9,688 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Nor the rape of a minor indictment that will hit him just a couple weeks after the Nov 8th election.
Only pals he'll have left are the ignorant.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)He probably thought he was being funny when he is actual just plain cruel.
alterfurz
(2,474 posts)...they have a mean streak, and think that is the same thing."
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Luckily I live where it's pretty Blue, but I can't think of a single repuke I've ever met who didn't have that mean streak. Just a matter of degree, some can be pretty funny if they're intelligent enough but still, the main thing is the mean streak.
Yecch.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Conservative "sense of humor" is always like this.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)just fucked up our event completely" is what is hidden between the lines!
Note Fox's Maria first smiles when Trump calls Hillary corrupt, but then her jaw dropped too, at 18:12.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,190 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Trump was so vile, even Fox reporters were appalled, albeit with a two seconds delay
wordpix
(18,652 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)to come out and usher the nutcase off the stage
riversedge
(70,221 posts)managed to do that.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)see that he really was not "friends" with the rich and powerful. They indulged him because he could write checks for their campaigns or their charities and his name added to the "star power" of the events. Now he is an object of disgust for many of them, including some Republicans.
It may be that some of them were surprised by how completely disgusting he is - as they see and learn more of who he is. It may be that they always knew he was a creep, but they saw him as a creep they could use to get money without doing anything else. Note that none of the many Democrats he ever gave money to have been accused of doing anything for him in return. Likely what he "bought" was the ability to sit among them.
Watch the first words that he spoke where he very bitterly spoke of how (the audience) once welcomed him to their homes until he became a Republican. In fact, the audience is not all Democrats and it wasn't him becoming a Republican that has made most of these people view him with disgust. It is who he is and things he has done and said.
I can not imagine how he will deal with losing. The graciousness of McCain, Romney, Gore or Kerry is completely unlikely. Those 4 men ran races they could be proud of representing their parties with grace and integrity, Trump has appealed to the worst - though long present - side of America. He makes Nixon and W look honorable in comparison. How will this egotistical creep deal with not just losing, but losing badly. Some say he intends to set up a media network for the alt right, others argue that he will lead the alt right again in 2020. I hope that his loss which hopefully takes many down ticket races with it - in a year - the Republicans once saw as promising for them will lead to the alt right and far right to disown him - maybe even calling him a Democrat!
The mean spiritedness of many of his "jokes" - to me - stems from a growing bitterness. The more the bitterness and meanness shows - and this was a kid sent to military school by rich parents, the more unattractive he will appear and the more others will distance themselves. I honestly do not think he has the ability to hide that emptiness inside him. Just as he, at this dinner, starts his words attacking the audience for deserting him, imagine how his world changes on November 9. Any nominee who loses loses their dreams for what they could have done, but most can continue to work on the issues that define them for who they are. Most also retain the love and respect of their friends and family and likely the respect of new supporters who learned more about them as they ran.
Trump started as a well known reality show performer, thought to have created a huge real estate empire. His brand is now toxic for at least half the country -- and after losing -- maybe rising to almost everyone. The campaign - as campaigns do - exposed him more than he was ever known before and little of what was found was pretty. He has been an obnoxious, racist, sexist man who has consistently used and abused anyone he could. Given all that has been learned, he will end this race with his reputation and his "brand" (valued in billions by him) in tatters - with no one to blame but himself.
These next three weeks can not go fast enough for me -- my intense visceral reaction to even seeing him on TV is far beyond my reaction even to the loathsome Dick Cheney.
Great read.
BumRushDaShow
(129,013 posts)And it pretty much summed up what you wrote, notably the most likely reason for his sentiment -
Bloomberg is not a Democrat. Nor is he running for office. But he gets the threat of physical violence and a fun nickname because someone like Bloomberg offending Trump is especially offensive to Trump. Any New Yorker can tell you why. It's because Trump has spent decades ignoring one of the cardinal rules of being publicly rich in this town: If you must flaunt your money, then you must also give it away in large sums. If you don't, then you'll spend your life feeling like an outsider, building resentment against those who should be your set. And that's exactly what Trump has done.
While America has spent decades seeing Trump as a billionaire entrepreneur with a lux lifestyle, New York's elite have spent the same amount of time seeing him very differently as a tacky sideshow with no regard for social norms. No, this isn't Edith Wharton's New York City, but there are still rules. For one, if you want to attend everyone's fancy charity parties, then you've got to make a donation. If you don't make the donation, then prepare for everyone to stare daggers at you, to worry about your financial situation, to judge you.
If you don't give, then eventually people will invite you to fewer events. They'll consider you especially rude for going to the ones that you have been invited to out of politeness. That is when you are truly rejected by people who, ideally, since you're a "billionaire, too," should be your peers. And that's when the gauche things you do as a rich person are suddenly inexcusable. People may see you at parties, but they do not really see you. They see a clown, a joke, a fraud.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)That or no one dared to hand him a script that actually was NOT mean spirited and had too much self-depreciation in it.
forgotmylogin
(7,528 posts)But they probably wanted to end the evening on a bright note.