I know you'll keep us informed.

Tom to keep us informrd.

Over at kos. Net/Net - reuters contradicts themselves. Here is the chart to get the real answer:

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Or maybe this should motivate those of us who haven't done so, like me, to phone bank or GOTV

I hate when we act like the right wing deniers.

that the reverse is true, that Trump is losing ground, that Clinton-Kaine is gaining, and that Trump's path to 270 electoral votes is very close to impossible?

they might well be a function of her lying low for the past few weeks, not a sign of his strength. Thirty-nine percent is pathetic. I'd be willing to bet that she charges hard toward the finish line.

MOE is 3 percentage points, so the margin change is just as likely to result from sampling error/statistical noise as it is real movement. And, her percentage is exactly the same as before, so any gain that IS real comes from "undecided" or Johnson/Stein/etc. professed voters.

Will be interesting to see polls taken after the third debate.

Viewership of Wed's debate was the third highest in the history of Presidential debates.

after his piss poor performance at the Al Smith!


What is that pounding noise?

Why, it's the nails being hammered into the Trump campaign coffin. That shit is DEAD.

538 still has Clinton at 83% chance, to Trumps 13.8% chance...... This is the only polling I follow, because most polls are on-line or landline polls, not very accurate, plus many are % among "Possible voters"..... Trump is basically going to go to his base and have rallies... I find it hard to believe ANYONE but a possible few are undecided 3 weeks away....

538 has Clinton's probability of winning even higher than the percentage you posted - at least on the interactive chart.

among likely voters, as of October 20, in a 4 candidate field; and 9 points ahead against Trump alone.

http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TM651Y15_26/filters/LIKELY:1

http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TM651Y15_DS_13/filters/LIKELY:1

So wouldn't that include the last 5 days?

averaged out the results of the 5 days Trump got around 40% and Clinton averaged around 44%, the 15th and 17th were particularly good polling days for Trump, the 19th and 20th were good for Clinton. Really it's all mostly just noise.

The latest Ipsos poll on 538 says a +9 for HRC?

"Fucking media just has to have a fucking horse race."

But that's me.

One article/poll out of what? Hundreds? Thousands? Showing the opposite is true!! I don't believe it, the poll needs to be analyzed and is likely highly flawed. Or this is some sort of crude joke. Maybe it's still part of Trump's Al Smith Dinner speech.

All this talk of a Clinton "landslide" is extremely premature, imo.

Right now, according to this & other polls taken since the last debate, show that Trump has, indeed, gained several points, and the race is now essentially a "toss-iup"

Trump's "rigged election" statements seem to be resonating with voters.

Let's hope and pray that something new comes out about Trump in the next few days.

I wish the mainstream media would begin to cover Trump's underage rape lawsuit, which now has a hearing set for December 16 in New York Federal Court.
The woman who alleges that Trump & his buddy Jeffrey Epstein raped her when she was 13 now has a "high-profile" attorney, Casey Anthony, and two new eyewitnesses have come forward as well to back up her claims.
Why are the "big time" news outlets like the New York Times, Washington Post,
Chicago Tribune, NBC News, CBS News, ABC News, MSNBC, CNN, NPR and the rest all refusing to cover this potentially explosive rape case?
What the hell are they afraid of?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512502424

But I am glad they stopped this landslide talk. It will make some think it's ok not to vote. I'd rather the media says it's close so that voters don't mind waiting hours to vote for Hillary if necessary.

It is not a "tossup." That is just plain ridiculous. Please, ENOUGH!

Theres more racist and arrogant people then most think, Again we need to treat this election as were behind to the end IMHO.

But it never hurts to have a heads up, on the big media people implausibly ratcheting the polling numbers into a more favorable position for the repugs.

That's how he got close last time. His gains bore zero relationship to the constant campaigning screw ups dRumpfenfuhrer has perpetrated, during the entire final election season. Caught in another scandal, poll numbers tightened. Fired the second campaign manager, poll numbers ratcheted closer. The media genius threw a suck-y convention that caused the first ever net negative favorability rating registered among those who viewed it. He came out -15% in favorability, then the polls said the race was tightening.

I used to get mad at TPM for their poll aggregates, but their site is always reporting every substantive thing they can to help the good side win.

the +4 was the AVERAGE for the week, which was mucked up by the 17th and 15th where Trump had really strong polling days, the +9 is where their tracker is TODAY after a few really good polling days for Clinton.


Their the same tracking poll, Reuters just takes a weekly average and that's their article.

.....went up?

Seems dubious, especially considering that virtually every other poll shows her lead widening.

Hmmm...

I just simply do NOT get why and how he has anything higher than ten percent of support, it never, ever should have been higher than that. His debate performances alone should be enough for anyone with more than one brain cell. It just makes NO fucking sense to me at all.

He is certainly a horror show but in the minds of many she is not much better if not worse.

so on..even some women are anti - women....

A third in my opinion...but...let's say Hillary gets 52 percent of the vote, and Drump gets 37 percent,,,,that means Hillary will win by at least 15 million votes.....perhaps as much as 18million....
.Our side must get out to vote...every person who thinks fair and just...vote...

Now..that does mean that a lot of people are not fair and just..yep...one third..in my opinion..we will see in 2 and half weeks...let us hang in there...

Sounds like it. He put a Trump spin on every statistic.

to see Sanders supporters stoop to Trump support. One wonders how they can square it with their consciences.

"Oh the polls say Romney's gonna win." Fox was so sure the polls were right. And yes, I believe they want a horse race. But we have one whole filly in the race and just the back half of the other horse.

funny but also sadly true.

WAY up. Today's tracker from the same company has her 9 points up. So please, enough of the BULLSHIT.

Or Outright Liar?

Remember, Trump has no chance with his supporters alone to win. Hillary has set up an aggressive ground campaign. Voter turnout for Hillary is crucial. She has support of women, minorities, millennials are turning to her, white educated men and women. Everyone, every group of people Trump has maligned. As long as the campaign and volunteers push supporters to vote, Trump has no chance to win.

turn out is all....somewhat concerned about hrc campaign going after the very red states as of late---look, shiny object!

I live in a swing state that is supposedly firmly in the hrc column....trump has more on tv, trump is making visits.....

hrc? think chelsea had a layover in the state for an hour or so a couple weeks back....the gop has done very well here and i fear they could again

So not sure who the "we" is who are staying home (midterms perhaps; this isn't one.) Take a loo and see the final 2012 poll aggregators' margins and the final results. Does Clinton inherit that software and organization or Trump?

Narrative. Knew it was coming. I expect Fox, ABC. CBS to come up with similar polls

Yep, with 2 weeks left.

Take it to your favorite right wing site...