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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:47 AM Oct 2016

Trump Loyalists Planned Voter Intimidation Using Fake ID Badges, Fake Exit Polling

Source: Huffington Post

Vote Protectors, the anti-voter-fraud group hosted by Donald Trump ally and political dirty trickster Roger Stone, plans to send volunteers to monitor polling places in nine cities with high minority populations on Election Day, Stone said last week. Untrained poll-watchers have intimidated voters in previous elections. But Vote Protectors is going further than its predecessors.

Stone’s group created an official-looking ID badge for its volunteers to wear, and its volunteers planned to videotape voters and conduct fake “exit polls,” efforts that election experts say risks intimidating and confusing voters. Or at least that’s what the group was planning to do before The Huffington Post asked Stone about it on Tuesday. The controversial Trump ally, long known for his bare-knuckled political tactics, said that key proposals on his group’s websites were there without his knowledge, and assured HuffPost that he would operate within the confines of election law.

Stone had initially refused to explain just how Vote Protectors planned to accomplish its goals. So on Monday, The Huffington Post responded to the group’s request for additional volunteers to work as “Exit Pollers and Citizen Journalists.”

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For Danielle Lang, the deputy director of voting rights at the nonprofit Campaign Legal Center, the Vote Protectors’ emphasis on posting livestream video of voters to the internet is especially disturbing. “It’s inherently intimidating and an invasion of privacy” to videotape private citizens at the polls without their consent, Lang told HuffPost. “When that’s being livestreamed to the internet, it amplifies the potentially intimidating aspect of it, and violates a sense of security and privacy people have a right to enjoy at the polls.”

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/vote-protectors-voter-intimidation_us_580e4e63e4b0a03911ee03bc



This is a pretty blatant plan to intimidate and suppress voters.
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Trump Loyalists Planned Voter Intimidation Using Fake ID Badges, Fake Exit Polling (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2016 OP
Fakey hair, fakey tax returns bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #1
And voter fraud is a fake issue, to boot. n/t Beartracks Oct 2016 #21
I hope they also gave them some very dapper brown shirts to wear. tanyev Oct 2016 #2
With red Swastika armbands, please DFW Oct 2016 #3
More Republican allowed Freak Shows. See what happens when irs allows republican 'charities'. Sunlei Oct 2016 #4
Who is Roger Stone? Coyotl Oct 2016 #5
There Should Be An Investigation of Coordination Between Russians and Trump Operatives TomCADem Oct 2016 #6
I hope we have more hacker arrests before the election, ones clarifying who is behind this. Coyotl Oct 2016 #11
Fake exit polls? MichMan Oct 2016 #7
Maybe they plan to try and ask questions that could portray them as illegal ToxMarz Oct 2016 #8
If they do that, they'll violated the existing Consent Decree against the republican party... George II Oct 2016 #9
I've been trying to figure out... forkol Oct 2016 #19
Sickening tactics.... I hope that Democrats have plenty of lawyers ready to monitor polling places groundloop Oct 2016 #10
Fear the party that fears your vote bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #22
What it is is illegal... Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #12
They aren't going to do jack squat Botany Oct 2016 #13
Why does the title of the OP use the past tense title "Trump loyalists planned " ? Trust Buster Oct 2016 #14
Vote Suppressors. (n/t) Iggo Oct 2016 #16
photography in a polling place is illegal in many states including mine dembotoz Oct 2016 #17
After watching MM in Trumpland, this video auto-played: Coyotl Oct 2016 #20
K & R Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2016 #24
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
5. Who is Roger Stone?
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:00 AM
Oct 2016

[center]

Some History of Trump Operatives

Deja DU excerpts, many more at link: Bush vs. Gore, the 'Arkansas Project,' the USA firings, and the Swiftboat Admiral

L. Coyote Jun-09-07
44. Donald Trump, Roger Stone, Jack Abramoff, Gaming Gaming and Scalping the Tribes.

How is it that two consumate Republican insiders, both purported specialists in illegal
funding of campaigns, one a political dirty trickster who stays behind the scenes and
the other a felonious convict linked to the White House political office, each manage
to garner tens of millions of dollars from Indian tribes in the gaming rackets? By
working both sides at once, of course. And, how is it that one gets convicted and goes
to jail while the other keeps getting paid? Who is scalping whom for how much, who has
lost their scalp, who still has theirs, and will Donald Trump's hair survive the scandals?

With all the attention to Abramoff defrauding the Tribes, why isn't there more attention on
who else is involved in all of gaming's political machinations and influence peddling?

Who has lucrative contracts to receive a percentage of the gross from Indian casinos, and
how did they obtain it? Where is all that money going? How much ends up in the coffers of
politicos like Sen. John McCain, and why? Who else is scalping the Tribes?

And how much of the scalping goes to legal and illegal campaign contributions?

Questions to be answered.


36. Who is Roger Stone, Jr.? Buckley, Nixon, Reagan, Bush operative.

"Roger J. Stone, Jr. is a long-time Republican dirty-tricks operative who led the mob that shut down the Miami-Dade County recount and helped make George W. Bush president in 2000. He was also a campaign strategist during the presidential campaigns of Presidents Nixon, Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush. .............


........ Roger Stone and the Jack Abramoff mould. Making $$millions$$ gaming gaming.

A Dirty Trickster's Bush Bonanza
The man who stopped Miami recount makes gaming millions
by Wayne Barrett
April 19th, 2004 9:30 AM
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/...........

Roger Stone, the dirty-tricks hobgoblin of Republican politics, has exploited his Bush connections to become an influence-peddling force in the $13 billion Indian gaming industry. Stone's booming business in such a federally regulated enterprise makes his recent pro bono orchestration of Al Sharpton's double-edged presidential campaign an even stranger covert caper.

The longtime GOP consultant's reward for fomenting the "Brooks Brothers mob" that shut down the Miami-Dade recount in 2000 was an invitation within days of Bush's election to serve on the Department of Interior transition working group—helping, in his own words, to staff its Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA). Stone has since used this unannounced perch to market himself to tribes and developers from Louisiana to California, earning fat fees and contingent percentages of future casino revenue. Just two of the five deals examined by the Voice are projected to pay him at least $8 million, and perhaps as much as $13 million.

Time, The Washington Post and The New York Times have published exposés about Bush's BIA, with a February story highlighting $45 million in payments to two GOP lobbyists from four tribes since 2001. But no one has focused on Stone's profiteering, which, unlike the payments to registered lobbyists, is not reported on any public filings. ..............


40. Roger Stone, Iran-Contra, NCPAC, Blackwell, Buchanan, Rove, Sex & Trump's Money ...

What role did Stone play in financing the Contras? .............

41. Roger Stone - "slash-and-burn Republican black-bag election tamperer"

A Prayer for Reverend Al
Let Him Buy His Soul Back from the Republicans
by Doug Ireland
www.dissidentvoice.org
February 21, 2004 - First Published in LA Weekly
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Feb04/Ireland0221.htm

Who is Roger Stone? A slash-and-burn Republican black-bag election tamperer and consultant whose mentor was the repulsive Roy Cohn — the redbaiting hatchet man for Senator Joe McCarthy. Stone first made news in the Nixon Watergate scandal, when it was revealed that the 19-year-old apprentice McCarthyite had infiltrated George McGovern’s 1972 presidential campaign as part of CREEP’s sabotage plan. ... Stone helped Ollie North raise money for the Nicaraguan contras, and was a close associate of the notorious Lee Atwater ...


This one, my favorite, exemplifes the lengths to which these unscrupulous operatives will go just to malign a Dem candidate. This is not democracy, it is criminal conduct.

48. Swiftboating Al Gore from Argentina, SIDE, Israeli wire transfers, spy files, forgery, Bush & Menem

un-10-07 04:44 PM by L. Coyote
There just is no way to make this stuff up!! This is a court pleading. Unbelievable.

First get some spy files from Israel, alter them to look like Argentine spy files, make them implicate Bush and Menem in corruption, blame Gore for the forged documents. Sound familiar. Did I mention blackmailing bribed journalists and, of course, the perennial covert Republican dirty tricksters. This genre of dirty trick came to be known as "swiftboating" when done to Kerry four years later by the same players!!

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http://pacer.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinion.pdf/041901.P.pdf
Olavar (Triumph Communications International Group, Plaintiffs-Appellants, v.
Santibañes, Defendant-Appellee, and Ikon Holdings, Inc., t/a Ikon Public Affairs, Dick Morris, Roger Stone, Eileen McGann, John Does, Defendants.

Appeal from the United States District Court Decided: December 1, 2005

Triumph Communications International Group, Incorporated is a corporation that provides political consulting and public relations services and is owned and operated solely by Mattie Lolavar.

In early 2000, Miss Lolavar began discussions with defendant Dick Morris about the possibility of her working with Craig Snyder and defendant Roger Stone, who are partners in defendant IKON Holdings, Inc., another political consulting firm ... about the possibility of Triumph Communications’ assistance with work that IKON was doing for the government of Argentina.
These discussions lead to two contracts ... and provided that Triumph would act as a public relations consultant to "the Secretary of Intelligence of Argentina" as well as arrange various media events...

Miss Lolavar went to Argentina in August 2000 to assist de Santibañes with preparations for his testimony in Argentine congressional hearings inquiring into allegations that he and the Argentine intelligence agency, known as SIDE, were responsible for bribing various Argentine senators in exchange for political support. Morris and Stone assigned other tasks to Miss Lolavar while she was in Argentina. Among other acts, they instructed her to contact SIDE and obtain a list of journalists who accepted bribes from that organization in order to harm the credibility of those same journalists in reporting on a bribery scandal surrounding de Santibañes and President de la Rua, as well as requiring her to spread false information to the press concerning de la Rua’s political opponent, Dr. Carlos Menem. The charges and counter-charges related here are from the papers in the court file, as are the other facts.

A request that occasioned controversy between Miss Lolavar and the defendants was Morris and Stone’s request that she serve as an intermediary in an anonymous wire transfer of funds to an official in Israel. These funds were to be paid to secure intelligence files from the Israeli government to assist de la Rua’s political domestic disputes with Menem, and to imply a corrupt relationship between Menem and George W. Bush, who was then running against Albert Gore for the United States presidency. These files were to be altered by Miss Lolavar to appear to be SIDE documents.

When the defendants became concerned that this plot would be discovered and traced back to them, they ordered Miss Lolavar to orchestrate a press response to blame Vice President Gore for the dissemination of the documents, since it was known to them that the Gore campaign had been attempting to connect Menem with the Bush campaign.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
6. There Should Be An Investigation of Coordination Between Russians and Trump Operatives
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:03 AM
Oct 2016

Many of the Trump talking points appeared to timed to correspond to releases from Wikileaks. For example, Pence attacking Hillary for secretly pushing single payer before transcripts of Hillary talking positively of single payer appeared on wikileaks.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
11. I hope we have more hacker arrests before the election, ones clarifying who is behind this.
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:44 AM
Oct 2016

Whoever the hackers were, they were either clever enough to cover their tracks and make it look like foreign actors or stupid foreign actors who are supposed to be clever enough to cover their tracks. Obviously, there has been a misdirection effort to indict Russians even here on DU, with lots of low post count trolls immediately started pointing to Russia. Sometimes the misinformation pattern is great evidence of a cover-up. With ambiguity, motive can be the best clarifier.

Ask yourself, "Have the Russians been going after Hillary all these years?" Whose running against the Democrats, Republicans or Russians?

MichMan

(11,978 posts)
7. Fake exit polls?
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:15 AM
Oct 2016

I can see how they might be used to question the validity of the process. How do fake exit polls intimidate or suppress voters?

Haven't they already voted?

ToxMarz

(2,169 posts)
8. Maybe they plan to try and ask questions that could portray them as illegal
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:20 AM
Oct 2016

voters to sow doubt in the election integrity.

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. If they do that, they'll violated the existing Consent Decree against the republican party...
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:34 AM
Oct 2016

...that has been in existence since 1982, and it'll be extended yet another time.

forkol

(113 posts)
19. I've been trying to figure out...
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 12:06 PM
Oct 2016

Exactly what good this decree is anyway or what kind of teeth does it have?

It doesn't seem that it's being enforced now, repubs seem to already be flaunting it without repercussions.

And say for some reason it gets lifted. What does that mean, they get a chance to amp up their voter intimidation even more? How much more can they attempt to do than they are doing now?

I really think it's time for a new lawsuit, one that's backed up with heavy fines, or (even better) criminal prosecution of those that are taking part in this kind of intimidation.

groundloop

(11,523 posts)
10. Sickening tactics.... I hope that Democrats have plenty of lawyers ready to monitor polling places
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:34 AM
Oct 2016

It's a damned shame that repubs feel the need to rely on Nixonian style dirty tricks aimed at voter suppression to win. I can't remember Democrats ever being accused of bullshit like this. America would be a far better place if we made it easy for EVERYONE to vote (automatic voter registration would be a good start), put these felonious dirty tricksters in prison to set an example, and relied on people making their choice based on discussion of issues.

bucolic_frolic

(43,311 posts)
22. Fear the party that fears your vote
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 12:31 PM
Oct 2016

I posted that a few times online, got the vote supressors a bit hot and bothered

'what's wrong with a little ID at the polls?'

'cleaning the rolls for dead people should be done all the time'

'students shouldn't vote anyway'

to which i say, if you weren't up to no good, or if you had something popular to
run on, you wouldn't have to cheat voting blocs you don't like

Botany

(70,589 posts)
13. They aren't going to do jack squat
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 11:14 AM
Oct 2016

Especially @ the precinct I'll be working at.


What Stone is talking about is breaking the law. BTW sending a couple of old white
men into an all black neighborhood to scare people will not scare anybody.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
14. Why does the title of the OP use the past tense title "Trump loyalists planned " ?
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 11:24 AM
Oct 2016

I see no evidence that they are not presently planning to carry out their dirty plan.

dembotoz

(16,844 posts)
17. photography in a polling place is illegal in many states including mine
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 11:53 AM
Oct 2016

there was a tv thing on it this am cause justin timberlake apparently did a selfie of him voting and it
caused a bit of the uproar.....he got away with it cause well rich and famous folks live by different laws than the rest of us do

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
20. After watching MM in Trumpland, this video auto-played:
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 12:08 PM
Oct 2016
It so pisses me off that YouTube plays Trump crap after I watch a good video.



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