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geomon666

(7,512 posts)
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 04:04 PM Nov 2016

BREAKING: Judge Sides With RNC In Ballot Security Consent Decree Case

Source: Talking Points Memo

The federal judge overseeing a legal case involving a decades-old consent decree limiting the Republican National Committee's involvement in so-called "ballot security" initiatives sided with the RNC Saturday.

U.S. District Judge John Michael Vazquez denied the Democratic National Committee's requests to hold the Republican in contempt of court for allegedly violating the decree. He also denied the DNC's request to place an injunction on the RNC's alleged ballot security activities. Finally, he denied for now its request to extend by eight years the length of consent decree, which otherwise expires December 2017.

The DNC had brought the legal action last month, with accusations that the RNC was assisting the Donald Trump campaign's poll watcher efforts. The RNC denied any collaboration with the Trump campaign on ballot security initiatives and said it had followed the decree.

The judge said that the Democrats did not provide enough evidence to prove that Trump was acting as an "agent" of the RNC, as the decree spells out that it applies only to the RNC and its agents. (The activities of state Republican parties -- with the exception of New Jersey's -- are not covered by the decree, nor are individual candidates or campaigns if they are acting independently of the RNC.)

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/judge-sides-with-rnc-in-ballot-security-consent-decree-case



Sigh, fucking hell.
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BREAKING: Judge Sides With RNC In Ballot Security Consent Decree Case (Original Post) geomon666 Nov 2016 OP
i knew RNC would lie their way out of this. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #1
Will filing the appeal stay the current order? FarPoint Nov 2016 #3
not automatically. onenote Nov 2016 #18
Well, someone's Cayman account just got a lot bigger. forest444 Nov 2016 #2
He must be scared shitless that if Don Caligula wins, he'll deport him. Amonester Nov 2016 #7
Not Trump - but perhaps from one of the same dark money types splurging by way of Citizens United forest444 Nov 2016 #8
I think it is offensive to call the judge corrupt &bribed simply because he ruled against our side. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2016 #15
"Senor" Vazquez? Really? onenote Nov 2016 #19
Evidence??? C_U_L8R Nov 2016 #4
+ 1 red dog 1 Nov 2016 #12
I don't think you understand the legal concept of agency. onenote Nov 2016 #22
Thx. You're probably very correct about that. C_U_L8R Nov 2016 #23
I admit I am no expert angrychair Nov 2016 #24
Read my post. onenote Nov 2016 #25
How do you prove collusion bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #5
This is just the first of what will likely be many Blue Idaho Nov 2016 #6
Trump: "I like that Mexican judge!" dalton99 Nov 2016 #9
The courts are giving Donnie no reason to complain bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #10
Why the hell did Obama nominate this asshole? red dog 1 Nov 2016 #13
2 R Nays..Lankford and Sullivan Nancyswidower Nov 2016 #14
Thanks for that red dog 1 Nov 2016 #20
"did not provide enough evidence to prove that Trump was acting as an "agent" of the RNC" BumRushDaShow Nov 2016 #16
+ 1 red dog 1 Nov 2016 #21
Not a surprising result onenote Nov 2016 #17

forest444

(5,902 posts)
2. Well, someone's Cayman account just got a lot bigger.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 04:10 PM
Nov 2016

The RNC nominee isn't an RNC agent? OK, how much did they pay you Señor Vázquez?

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
7. He must be scared shitless that if Don Caligula wins, he'll deport him.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 04:26 PM
Nov 2016

That must explain it. I'm sure he's not expecting any money from the fascist agent orange...

forest444

(5,902 posts)
8. Not Trump - but perhaps from one of the same dark money types splurging by way of Citizens United
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 04:44 PM
Nov 2016

This laundromat (and Romney banker) comes to mind:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027587144

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,045 posts)
15. I think it is offensive to call the judge corrupt &bribed simply because he ruled against our side.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 06:10 PM
Nov 2016

You didn't present any grounds for your reckless assertion.

tRump has been campaigning against the RNC and Ryan and the "GOP elite", is not fundraising for them, and is not working with them in meaningful ways such as running a ground game.

Ruling against our side is not proof or grounds.

I think there needs to be a default respect for the US Judiciary unless there is compelling evidence otherwise.

C_U_L8R

(45,021 posts)
4. Evidence???
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 04:21 PM
Nov 2016

He's the RNC's freakin' candidate !!!
What more evidence do you need?
Of course Trump is the RNC's agent.

onenote

(42,769 posts)
22. I don't think you understand the legal concept of agency.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 06:26 PM
Nov 2016

This isn't a surprising result given the law of agency. It would require a showing that Trump and his campaign (as the "agent&quot is authorized to act on behalf of the RNC (the "principal&quot to create a legal relationship with third parties that bind the principal.

C_U_L8R

(45,021 posts)
23. Thx. You're probably very correct about that.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 06:49 PM
Nov 2016

I just feel it's not right... it's not like the RNC really tried to stop him

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
24. I admit I am no expert
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 07:10 PM
Nov 2016

But how is the RNC candidate for president, the defacto head of the RNC, the person that manages the agenda and focus of the RNC, not an "agent" of the RNC?

bucolic_frolic

(43,319 posts)
5. How do you prove collusion
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 04:23 PM
Nov 2016

when it's internal to the other side's campaign?

Collusion won't be overt. You need access, you have to look.

Employ your own James O'Keefe?

bucolic_frolic

(43,319 posts)
10. The courts are giving Donnie no reason to complain
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 04:50 PM
Nov 2016

do he can't say it's all rigged

and I doubt they're going to be so accommodative to his
877 lawsuits trying to overturn the election results

red dog 1

(27,866 posts)
13. Why the hell did Obama nominate this asshole?
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 05:10 PM
Nov 2016

Why did Senate Dems approve him?
His nomination was confirmed in the Senate by a vote of 84 to 2.
(I wonder who the 2 votes against him were?)

BumRushDaShow

(129,560 posts)
16. "did not provide enough evidence to prove that Trump was acting as an "agent" of the RNC"
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 06:15 PM
Nov 2016

WTF? He is their nominee. He was elected at the RNC convention. And because of that, he is essentially a de facto head of the party as well.

onenote

(42,769 posts)
17. Not a surprising result
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 06:20 PM
Nov 2016

The concept of "agency" in law is very specific and narrow. The fact that Trump is the party's candidate doesn't make him the party's agent.

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