Jesse Jackson: Obama should pardon Hillary Clinton
Source: Detroit Free Press
David Jesse , Detroit Free Press 3:49 p.m. EST
November 17, 2016
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Trump to Obama: Don't pardon Clinton
At a campaign rally in Novi, Michigan Friday evening, Donald Trump asked President Barack Obama not to "pardon Clinton and her co-conspirators" if any charges were filed related to the email scandal. (Sept. 30) AP
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Speaking at President Gerald Ford's alma mater, The Rev. Jesse Jackson called for President Obama to issue a blanket pardon to Hillary Clinton before he leaves office, just like Ford did for Richard Nixon.
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"It would be a monumental moral mistake to pursue the indictment of Hillary Clinton," Jackson said. He said issuing the pardon could help heal the nation, like Ford's pardon of Nixon did.
"President Ford said we don't need him for trophy. We need to move on. President Nixon wasn't convicted of a crime. He didn't apply for a pardon. (Ford) did it because he thought it would be best for the country.
"Hillary Clinton has not been tried, but there are those who want to drag her for the next three years. It will not stop until they find a reason to put her in jail. That would be a travesty."
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Read more: http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/16/jesse-jackson-obama-pardon-hillary-clinton/93979554/
I fear for Hillary. I really do think that the Republicans will do anything to 'lock her up"!!
Interesting article below--
►Related: Here's why President Obama is unlikely to pardon Hillary Clinton
http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/14/obama-last-minute-pardons-clinton-snowden-pardon-attorney/93784856/
Here's why President Obama is unlikely to pardon Hillary Clinton
Gregory Korte , USA TODAY 4:19 p.m. EST
November 14, 2016
The power to grant pardons is one of the most controversial presidential powers. Throughout history, many criminals have been spared life in prison. We've collected a list of the most remembered ones.
WASHINGTON Hillary Clinton will not get a pardon from President Obama.
If Obama is to be kept to his word, neither will former CIA director David Petraeus, convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard, intelligence contractor Edward Snowden or Pvt. Chelsea Manning, all of whom were accused or convicted of mishandling classified information.
The reason is simple: None of them has applied to the Office of the Pardon Attorney for executive clemency.
Obama addressed last-minute presidential pardons at a news conference in August. The process that I put in place is not going to vary depending on how close I get to the election, he said in response to a question from USA TODAY. So it's going to be reviewed by the pardon attorney, it will be reviewed by my White House counsel, and I'm going to, as best as I can, make these decisions based on the merits, as opposed to political considerations.
White House spokesman Josh Earnest confirmed last week that Obama hasnt changed that philosophy after the election. I wouldnt speculate at this point about what impact that may have on hypothetical pardon requests that he receives. I'll just say that the guidance that President Obama shared with you is still operative.
.......................... Trump aides have refused to rule out a prosecution after Inauguration Day...................
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)Not to mention Mitt Romney, Rock Perry, andJebsclamationpoint, for various email improprieties, and the whole Dubya Bush White House for 22 million emails missing from their own private server.
mopinko
(70,197 posts)he can make it absolutely clear that she is guilty of nothing, and he is doing it to protect the country from the spectacle of a trial of a political opponent.
i think it is a good idea, and a great place for him to let it rip with what he thinks it means to have an orange ape at the controls of this country.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I was hoping it won't come to that kind of banana-republic "justice," but appointment of Jeff Sessions as Attorney General is a very dangerous sign.
It seems sure that various advanced nations would offer her asylum, and presumably the Clinton Foundation could be moved out of the U.S. to one of them, but I doubt they'd want to become exiles, no matter how warmly welcomed by their new country.
It would be taken by many as proof of guilt, but of course the Clinton lynch mob never required proof in the first place--just a rope. This is the kind of stuff the lynch mob sucks up:
Monica Petersen Killed for Investigating Clinton-Related Sex Trafficking in Haiti?
http://www.snopes.com/monica-petersen-killed/
Poor Ms. Petersen's death on 11/13 was immediately exploited to feed the mob frenzy. AFTER Hillary lost the election. Another very dangerous portent. The Trump extremists dismantling institutions that the mob actually wants to keep will need to be able to distract the coming rage, and what better target than evil Hillary?
TexasTowelie
(112,370 posts)with an article from the Boston Herald.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028286044
riversedge
(70,284 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)They are finished with Hillary.
There was never any crime. It was all about perception.
The question is...who will be the next imaginary evil Bond villain. Maybe that would tell us again who they fear the most?
LibraLiz1973
(8,197 posts)Pardon her FOR WHAT?
This is prejudgment.
paleotn
(17,946 posts)....she's been cleared of any mishandling of supposed classified info. Comparing the private server with the misdeeds of Pollard, Manning and Snowden is absolutely fucking ridiculous. Hey, why not throw Aldrich Ames in there too. What complete bullshit!!!
LeftInTX
(25,515 posts)Thanks, Jesse
What is he thinking...
world wide wally
(21,754 posts)And I think that it on the same day, he should fire fucking Comey
Nitram
(22,853 posts)WTF is Jackson talking about? It's like admission of guilt.
Brother Buzz
(36,458 posts)Why did Gerald Ford give Richard Nixon a full and unconditional pardon?
Nitram
(22,853 posts)Of course, there was solid evidence that Nixon had committed high crimes and misdemeanors. while Clinton has been exhaustively investigated and no grounds for indictment have been discovered. Nevertheless, the Trump Administration could make her life miserable for many years, and they might even get lucky and find some excuse to indict her. By the way, Ford wrote that one of the reasons he granted the pardon was that a pardon carries with it some assumption of guilt.
Skittles
(153,182 posts)HILLARY DID NOT
flygal
(3,231 posts)I remember him complaining the Gore pick.
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)for an indictment.
Pathwalker
(6,598 posts)because their base demands it - facts be damned.
IndyJones
(1,068 posts)For what? There has to be cause for an indictment. If she's done nothing wrong, that seems an odd request.
cstanleytech
(26,317 posts)charges over where as there was no such recommendation made for Nixon by the FBI.
Besides if Trump wants to really be stupid enough to try and pursue this Clinton will win and then maybe we will have an impeachment of Trump followed by him dragging the entire GOP down with him.
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)andym
(5,445 posts)Always remember where there's a will there's a way. A show trial would be a great way to keep people distracted and pump up Trump supporters. Only question is does Jeff Sessions have the nerve to do it.
Paladin
(28,271 posts)If the Trump regime is stupid enough to pursue such charges, the proper response is massive public demonstrations---coast-to-coast, and as violent as necessary. Count me in.
andym
(5,445 posts)But I was just explaining why Jesse Jackson is thinking along the lines he is.
Paladin
(28,271 posts)Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)I like Hillary and don't want her to have to through any bullshit...Obama should say...I won't allow the US to persecute an innocent person for political reason therefore,....yada yada.
Paladin
(28,271 posts)The Trump regime should be made aware that any moves to prosecute Hillary for anything at this point will be met with forceful public blowback: massive demonstrations, organized boycotts of all things Trump, etc. etc.
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)so a big who cares...stop them in their nasty GOP tracks.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)and whatever they can think of to investigate.
They were and are serious about "lock her up."
Better safe than sorry.
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)Let it go. Pardon her. It will infuriate them.
Paladin
(28,271 posts)Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)phallon
(260 posts)Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)you of Don Siegelman? An Alabama governor who is still rotting in jail...after a political prosecution during the Bush administration?
phallon
(260 posts)You're right.
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)I know she is innocent, but with the FBI traitors we can count on nothing.
robbob
(3,537 posts)For one thing, it immediately would confirm the suspicions of all the Brietbart nut jobs that Hillary is guilty. For all here old enough to remember Ford pardoning Nixon: what did THAT tell you?
Also, I'm afraid (very afraid...) that the Clinton's will have to be our canary in the coal mine: if Trump and his appointed goons actually go after Hillary and Bill then it's official: the Fourth Reich has begun: jailing of political opponents.
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)It would also show that Democrats won't put up with their banana Republic bullshit.
robbob
(3,537 posts)Anybody who dips into that cesspool called Brietbart has already made up their mind. But I am still anxious to see if drump is going to let the whole "jail her" thing drop. I doubt it; he is a petty, petty little man and he's got an ever growing enemies list. As I said, jailing a political opponent would definitely officially signal the start of a 4th Reich...
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)Trump has asked Obama not to pardon her thus he is going after her...easy bone to throw to his supporters. Obama should step up and do the right thing.
BeyondGeography
(39,377 posts)And if he is, so much the better.
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)And they may get a conviction. plenty of innocent people are convicted...I say tell them FU and give a pardon.
still_one
(92,372 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)Obama could pardon her for any wrongdoing found in future in her handling of her private email account, but it would be a loud talking point on RW hate TV and Radio for years, and they would use this to cement the idea that there was criminal activity and risk to national security and paint all Democrats as complicit in letting "crooked Hillary" off the hook.
If he doesn't, Republicans may just drag her through yet more hearings for years to come. Appoint an even more draconian FBI head to lead it. And they will keep it up until they scrape together some mistake or oversight from her and blow it up all over their vast media reach. And Trump being such a vindictive asshole, I can see him doing that.
IMO though, I don't see Trump or the GOP pursuing this. They got what they wanted, ultimate power. Besides, I don't think Trump voters really understood or cared about it, it was all just a faux outrage because that is all they had.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,335 posts)That's where they could really have their "fun"
I would think they would never do it. But then again, I wouldn't think Trump would hire a white nationalist as an advisor.
Republicans impeached Clinton over a blow job.
And that was way back when they were sane and reasonable.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)But that Clinton was in power then.
I just think if they are smart, which I know is asking a lot, they would drop it as it would only galvanize Democrat voters and even moderate independents. All for what?..She's never going to run again.
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)0rganism
(23,966 posts)to the best of my knowledge, HRC has not been indicted (let alone convicted) for anything yet, nor is she likely to be in the next 2 months.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)I remember when I heard that phrase daily (1974). Nixon went on to become "respected" by the "media" and Bill Clinton spoke at his funeral.
Hillary has been investigated for 25 years. Put an end to it. A full and free blanket pardon, which includes anything found in the future. It makes her "unindictable" for the rest of her life. She deserves it.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)but only if Clinton says she wants one, which the Susan Hennessey argues would be wise:
https://www.lawfareblog.com/sake-nation-obama-should-pardon-clinton
The part about it I would hate, is T taking responsibility for this, claiming he would have put her in jail if not for Obama, etc. But, that's selfish. For Hillary's sake, if there is any fraction of a possibility T would decide to make people follow the shiney object of Clinton distraction while he was busy with WH evil, then I'm for a preemptive pardon.
tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)what an idiot.
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)These fascist nutjobs are capable of anything.
Skittles
(153,182 posts)SHE DID NOTHING WRONG
SHE HAS BEEN VETTED OVER AND OVER AND OVER
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)Ever here of Don Siegelman? He was the governor of Alabama and was prosecuted for political reasons...Rove was involved, and he is still rotting in jail. Guild and innocence have nothing to do with this...she did nothing wrong...I agree but they will go after her because they are vengeful POS and it is an easy bone to throw out for the their base.
Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)Otherwise, we are in for a show trial and basically, Hillary could be sent to prison as a political prisoner. I know she didn't do anything illegal but...that is no guarantee against fascist like Trump Et AL.
Skittles
(153,182 posts)Pathwalker
(6,598 posts)for refusing to lie for him in Whitewater - for months on end - in an effort to get her to lie against them in court. Like these bastards care about the truth. Jason Chavetz has sworn to prosecute her for at least the next two years. They'll make shit up just to do it, too. It's their plan. Count on it.
tavernier
(12,396 posts)I guess he hasn't had his meds today.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)What exactly would she be pardoned for? Like a pre-pardon?