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riversedge

(70,242 posts) Wed Nov 23, 2016, 03:53 PM Nov 2016

Dr. Jill Stein raising money to pay for a presidential election recount in Wisconsin

Source: Wkow.com

By Greg Neumann

Posted: Nov 23, 2016 1:21 PM CST
Updated: Nov 23, 2016 1:27 PM CST

MADISON (WKOW) -- Green Party Presidential Nominee Jill Stein is seeking to raise $2.5 million by late Friday afternoon in order to pay for presidential election recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania - three states narrowly won by Republican President-Elect Donald Trump.

On a fundraising page launched early Wednesday afternoon, the Stein campaign indicates it wants recounts in those three states because "data suggests significant discrepancies in vote totals."

Results show Trump won Wisconsin by 27,257 votes over Democratic Nominee Hillary Clinton, a margin of just 1 percent.

According to WEC Administrator Mike Haas, the agency has no discretion on whether to conduct the recount if Stein's campaign pays for it - unless there is intervening court litigation to stop it..................

Read more: http://www.wkow.com/story/33783289/2016/11/23/dr-jill-stein-raising-money-to-pay-for-a-presidential-election-recount-in-wisconsin

Greg Neumann ?@gneumann_wkow 7m7 minutes ago

This professor's theory is the reason @DrJillStein is asking for a recount in WI, MI, PA.

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*khVsaD6Hdo01hRT2LKef6w.jpeg

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Dr. Jill Stein raising money to pay for a presidential election recount in Wisconsin (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2016 OP

Trump will get an injunction bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #1

Posted by Greg Palest on FB Coyotl Nov 2016 #9

I remember Fitrakis from 2004 ucrdem Nov 2016 #27

Does she have the legal right to call a recount? ShakeWell Nov 2016 #29

She was on the ballot ucrdem Nov 2016 #32

Why doesn't Trump pay for it, he's the one would said the system is rigged? Coyotl Nov 2016 #34

good one. ucrdem Nov 2016 #35

thanks for the link ShakeWell Nov 2016 #37

Hope she's ready to go to the mat. ucrdem Nov 2016 #45

Maybe she can be useful after all. nt Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2016 #2

Or maybe this means we need to focus on OH, NC, and FL. Coyotl Nov 2016 #11

yeah, I hope so ShakeWell Nov 2016 #23

My opinion of her went way up with this. athena Nov 2016 #44

New Pennsylvania recount: Green Partys Jill Stein launches 2.5 million fundraiser riversedge Nov 2016 #3

America Speaks! - total is already at 445 thousand dollars! KatyBR Nov 2016 #40

Donations for Stein's recount are now 1 million dollars! KatyBR Nov 2016 #46

I doubt that she can FBaggins Nov 2016 #4

Would she be doing it for Hillary??? Just to get it done?? eom a kennedy Nov 2016 #5

If you're outside the .5 a candidate can demand a recount JonLP24 Nov 2016 #56

She feeling guilty for helping Trump win? Hoyt Nov 2016 #6

I heard an interview with her after the election and she did say his election was a disaster Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #19

Should we chip in? democrattotheend Nov 2016 #7

thinking about it. Maybe Gary Johnson should join her in this. kydo Nov 2016 #10

This is where you donate - already up to 382,000! KatyBR Nov 2016 #36

Good! Come on Hillary, this should be you Arazi Nov 2016 #8

K&R K&R K&R ffr Nov 2016 #12

Stein said she wanted Trump to win BainsBane Nov 2016 #13

She's verifying. ffr Nov 2016 #15

No she didn't. redwitch Nov 2016 #17

This isn't a fake news site BainsBane Nov 2016 #24

131,000 raised already ffr Nov 2016 #14

145,000 and climbing ffr Nov 2016 #16

150,000 ffr Nov 2016 #18

What this needs is fund matching for us little folks. Now over 160,000 ffr Nov 2016 #20

I threw her a 10 spot. moreland01 Nov 2016 #21

190,000. moreland01 Nov 2016 #22

I am VERY suspicious Motley13 Nov 2016 #25

PLEASE DONATE!!! BlueInPhilly Nov 2016 #26

Exactly! cilla4progress Nov 2016 #30

MI would be an easy recount. roamer65 Nov 2016 #28

About time she worked on undoing the damage she did. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #31

Maybe Susan Sarandon can donate the money. She is rich kydo Nov 2016 #33

ABC news reporting Jill Stein will ask for a recount of those three states! KatyBR Nov 2016 #38

Fingers Crossed healthnut7 Nov 2016 #39

Does this recount the Wisconsin Senate race? milestogo Nov 2016 #41

Up to 525k in donations. n/t blitzburgh55 Nov 2016 #42

I'm in for 5.00. 525,000.00 in so far. rgbecker Nov 2016 #43

Over a million and rising Beantighe Nov 2016 #47

does anyone know if the 2.5 million will cover all 3 states? or is this just for one? I'm confused. KewlKat Nov 2016 #48

It will cover all the states. athena Nov 2016 #49

thank you. I'm gonna go ahead and donate. KewlKat Nov 2016 #50

1,932,000 already......I'd say she's got the funds, now will the states comply with her requests? KewlKat Nov 2016 #51

I cannot speak to Pennsylvania or Michigan, but from the original article: Massacure Nov 2016 #52

over 2.2 million now KewlKat Nov 2016 #53

2.3 million. Almost there... the people REALLY want a recount... tinrobot Nov 2016 #54

And for senate and house races too Bearware Nov 2016 #55

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)

1. Trump will get an injunction

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:04 PM

Nov 2016

it would harm him if he lost

and we wouldn't want to count the votes. It might reveal
the election was rigged, just like Trump promised it would be.

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)

9. Posted by Greg Palest on FB

Reply to bucolic_frolic (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:59 PM

Nov 2016

from: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/electionintegrity/UBg_07NMoHY

BREAKING: Jill Stein just called, Green Party filing for recount in #Michigan, #Wisconsin and #Pennsylvania. A tiny 50,000 vote shift will un-Trump the Electoral College.

Jill Stein just called to say that I am the first one to be informed that the Green Party is formally petitioning for a recount in 3 states, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Trump’s margin is less that 11,600 in Michigan, 27,200 in Wisconsin and 68,000 in Pennsylvania. If just a few thousand votes are found in Wisconsin and Michigan, Hillary Clinton becomes president by 276 electoral votes verses 264 for Trump

Stein told me “We’re filing in Wisconsin Friday because the votes were cast on proven hack-prone machines. This has been a hack-ridden election.” She said that it will be most difficult to recount the machines in Pennsylvania. When asked why the democrats are not bringing this action, Stein told this reporter that “Democrats do not act to protect the vote even when there is dramatic evidence” of tampering.

The Green Party told us that Stein will be represented by experienced voting rights attorney’s John Bonifaz, Boston, MA and Robert Fitrakis, Columbus, OH.

Stein said, “our voting system is on life support.” The presidential candidate also said, “The Green Party will continue to be the go to advocate for voting rights. That includes fighting vote suppression tactics such as the Interstate Crosscheck system.”

Interstate Crosscheck is the program which wrongly purged hundreds of thousand of minority voters in this election, according to the investigation this reporter for Rolling Stone Magazine. For more on the theft of the 2016 election visit thebestdemocracymoneycanbuy.com and gregpalast.com

#Election2016 #AuditTheVote #audittheresult #BDMCB

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

27. I remember Fitrakis from 2004

Reply to Coyotl (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:17 PM

Nov 2016

That seems to be a good choice and means she's serious...

ShakeWell

(28 posts)

29. Does she have the legal right to call a recount?

Reply to Coyotl (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:17 PM

Nov 2016

Let's say I just happened to have $2.5mill sitting around the living room, making a mess, getting in the way, and needed it to go. I couldn't ask for a recount as I am nobody, just a voter from another state. Does she, as a third party candidate whose name was on the ballet, have the right to call for an audit?

If she's within her legal rights to do so, I say fund it, but I'd like some info regarding whether or not she's able to do this.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

32. She was on the ballot

Reply to ShakeWell (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:20 PM

Nov 2016

I'm assuming that's what gives her standing in MI but every state has its own rules so maybe these are the only 3 that allow it?

Michigan: A mandatory recount if 2,000 votes or less separate the top two candidates. Candidates can petition for a recount due to fraud or a counting error.

Ohio: Automatic recount if the difference between the top two candidates is less than 0.25 percent

Pennsylvania: Automatic recount when vote margin is less than 0.5 percent. Voters can petition county boards for a recount. Voters or candidates can petition courts for a recount.

Wisconsin: Any candidate can request a recount within three days of completion of the initial tally. The recount is free to the requesting candidate if the margin of victory is less than 0.5 percent, otherwise it must be paid for in advance.

Florida: A margin of victory of 0.5 percent or less triggers an automated recount of votes tallied by machine. If that re-tabulation cuts the margin to .25 percent or less, a hand recount is ordered of ballots showing undervotes or overvotes, only if they are numerous enough to potentially alter the outcome.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/recount-rules-battleground-states-2016-presidential-election-231013

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)

34. Why doesn't Trump pay for it, he's the one would said the system is rigged?

Reply to ucrdem (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:34 PM

Nov 2016

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

35. good one.

Reply to Coyotl (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:36 PM

Nov 2016

ShakeWell

(28 posts)

37. thanks for the link

Reply to ucrdem (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:49 PM

Nov 2016

My Google-fu was failing me... seems she can in MI, PA, and WI no problem. OH/FL seems like a stretch, not in legality of an audit, but in the margin of votes.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

45. Hope she's ready to go to the mat.

Reply to ShakeWell (Reply #37)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:53 PM

Nov 2016

This isn't going to be easy and to change anything she'll need to take it to the SC. But it's a different court than in 2000 and there's a fair chance she'll win if she gets that far.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)

2. Maybe she can be useful after all. nt

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:05 PM

Nov 2016

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)

11. Or maybe this means we need to focus on OH, NC, and FL.

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:03 PM

Nov 2016

Why ignore those states?

ShakeWell

(28 posts)

23. yeah, I hope so

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:43 PM

Nov 2016

This might be a better tactic than having HRC take it head on. Not sure of the legality of who can call an audit/recount, but if she is able to do so, great! It would pull the heat off of the Dems for bringing up the discrepancies and then let the results of the audit speak for themselves.

She's a political beast who did her best to pile on to the Clinton Hate Machine and that leaves me conflicted as to her true motives.

However, what ever the reason, an audit would be in the best interest of our democracy and hopefully begin the process of securing our votes and discourage people who have a desire to manipulate our election systems.

athena

(4,187 posts)

44. My opinion of her went way up with this.

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:34 PM

Nov 2016

I can respect someone who values democracy enough to help the person she ran against.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)

3. New Pennsylvania recount: Green Partys Jill Stein launches 2.5 million fundraiser

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:11 PM

Nov 2016

New Pennsylvania recount: Green Party’s Jill Stein launches $2.5 million fundraiser
http://theincline.com/2016/11/23/pennsylvania-recount-green-partys-jill-stein-launches-2-5-million-fundraiser/

Jill Stein in ArizonaJill Stein in Arizona Gage Skidmore / Flickr
Pennsylvania recount: Green Party’s Jill Stein launches $2.5 million fundraiser

By Sarah Anne Hughes
November 23, 2016 at 2:12

Updated, 2:50 p.m.

The Green Party’s Jill Stein has launched a last-minute bid to raise millions of dollars to “demand” a recount in Pennsylvania, as well as in Michigan and Wisconsin.

On a fundraising page, Stein’s campaign said it needs to raise $2.5 million by Friday at 5 p.m. ET. It was not immediately clear what would happen to the donations if the fundraiser didn’t reach its goal. (The Incline has reached out to Stein’s campaign.)

“After seeing compelling evidence of voting anomalies, the Stein/Baraka Green Party Campaign is launching an effort to ensure the integrity of our elections,” the fundraising call reads:
.................

......................

The call for a recount gained mainstream traction yesterday, after New York Magazine reported that a group of computer scientists and election lawyers has urged the Clinton campaign to call for a recount in those three crucial states. The group, per the report, found evidence that voting machines “may have been manipulated or hacked.”

KatyBR

(183 posts)

40. America Speaks! - total is already at 445 thousand dollars!

Reply to riversedge (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:04 PM

Nov 2016

Wow.

https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

KatyBR

(183 posts)

46. Donations for Stein's recount are now 1 million dollars!

Reply to riversedge (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:12 PM

Nov 2016

https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)

4. I doubt that she can

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:13 PM

Nov 2016

Most states have thresholds for the difference between the presumed winner and the person filling.

She was nowhere close in any state

a kennedy

(29,673 posts)

5. Would she be doing it for Hillary??? Just to get it done?? eom

Reply to FBaggins (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:19 PM

Nov 2016

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)

56. If you're outside the .5 a candidate can demand a recount

Reply to FBaggins (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 24, 2016, 07:51 AM

Nov 2016

They just cost money to do it and have to file before deadlines. In Michigan it is cheaper if its close so she'll have to pay $125 per precinct with 1500 precincts in Michigan

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

6. She feeling guilty for helping Trump win?

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:24 PM

Nov 2016

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)

19. I heard an interview with her after the election and she did say his election was a disaster

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:23 PM

Nov 2016

though obviously, that's fucked up given her role in this mess.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)

7. Should we chip in?

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:48 PM

Nov 2016

I am not a fan of Jill Stein at all but I would like to see this happen. Is anyone else going to chip in?

kydo

(2,679 posts)

10. thinking about it. Maybe Gary Johnson should join her in this.

Reply to democrattotheend (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:01 PM

Nov 2016

If we just gave 2-5$, she might get what she needs, each of us is be out a few bucks and a we get a better look at what happened in those states.

You never know it might turn out Hillary won those states and that would be the best 2 dollars I ever spent.

Could turn up nothing and we are still stuck with orange man. I am only our a few bucks for trying.

My only thing is I don't want her getting more money then this costs! That's probably the only reason I haven't donated.

Now if says if more money is raised then needed, and the extra will be donated to the ACLU or Planed Parenthood. That would really make it hard not to donate. Might as well try. What have we got to loose?

KatyBR

(183 posts)

36. This is where you donate - already up to 382,000!

Reply to democrattotheend (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:42 PM

Nov 2016

https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

Arazi

(6,829 posts)

8. Good! Come on Hillary, this should be you

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:50 PM

Nov 2016

ffr

(22,670 posts)

12. K&R K&R K&R

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:09 PM

Nov 2016

I smell something's up. Love this angle!

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)

13. Stein said she wanted Trump to win

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:11 PM

Nov 2016

so I don't understand why she's doing this. I hope it's not just a ploy to get money off people.

ffr

(22,670 posts)

15. She's verifying.

Reply to BainsBane (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:14 PM

Nov 2016

Maybe hoping the goal isn't reached in time (Friday) and she gets to keep all the money?

redwitch

(14,944 posts)

17. No she didn't.

Reply to BainsBane (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:21 PM

Nov 2016

I just checked out Snopes.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)

24. This isn't a fake news site

Reply to redwitch (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:50 PM

Nov 2016

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/12/jill_stein_hillary_clintons_declared_syria_policy_could_start_a_nuclear_war.html

It's also on video.

ffr

(22,670 posts)

14. 131,000 raised already

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:13 PM

Nov 2016

https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

ffr

(22,670 posts)

16. 145,000 and climbing

Reply to ffr (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:20 PM

Nov 2016

ffr

(22,670 posts)

18. 150,000

Reply to ffr (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:22 PM

Nov 2016

ffr

(22,670 posts)

20. What this needs is fund matching for us little folks. Now over 160,000

Reply to ffr (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:26 PM

Nov 2016

moreland01

(739 posts)

21. I threw her a 10 spot.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:38 PM

Nov 2016

A girl can dream.

moreland01

(739 posts)

22. 190,000.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:38 PM

Nov 2016

Where's Warren Buffet when you need him?

Motley13

(3,867 posts)

25. I am VERY suspicious

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:13 PM

Nov 2016

I think the voting machines need to be cked, and a recount is needed, but what is she up to?

Electoral college needs to go!

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)

26. PLEASE DONATE!!!

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:16 PM

Nov 2016

Maybe it will be for nothing. Maybe it wouldn't make any difference. But I'd like to look back in my privately-owned nursing home (since Medicare would have been decimated by then), count my vouchers, and remember that I tried.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)

30. Exactly!

Reply to BlueInPhilly (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:17 PM

Nov 2016

A kindred soul! Let's go, right?!

I mean if we don't even try...?

Others are trying different things, and many things all at the same time. That's great!

roamer65

(36,745 posts)

28. MI would be an easy recount.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:17 PM

Nov 2016

We use paper ballots.

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

31. About time she worked on undoing the damage she did. (nt)

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:19 PM

Nov 2016

kydo

(2,679 posts)

33. Maybe Susan Sarandon can donate the money. She is rich

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:29 PM

Nov 2016

That works for me. I hope she raises the money and does it. And while I have given it serious thought, I highly doubt I will make a donation. Probably won't need to if all those rich hollywood type green party people support their candidate and donate.

KatyBR

(183 posts)

38. ABC news reporting Jill Stein will ask for a recount of those three states!

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:58 PM

Nov 2016

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/green-party-candidate-jill-stein-file-vote-recount/story?id=43746839

to donate go here. https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

healthnut7

(249 posts)

39. Fingers Crossed

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:58 PM

Nov 2016

Here's hoping Jill is successful. I can see Hillary not wanting to do it. They would make her to be a fool if it proved there was not enough evidence to change anything. IMO of course.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)

41. Does this recount the Wisconsin Senate race?

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:18 PM

Nov 2016

If they fucked with the presidential vote, no doubt they fucked with the senate race too.

blitzburgh55

(411 posts)

42. Up to 525k in donations. n/t

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:21 PM

Nov 2016

rgbecker

(4,832 posts)

43. I'm in for 5.00. 525,000.00 in so far.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:23 PM

Nov 2016

Great that Stein is doing this. Clinton never would. I've seen sheets showing more votes counted than actually cast. Time for an audit.

Beantighe

(126 posts)

47. Over a million and rising

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:14 PM

Nov 2016

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)

48. does anyone know if the 2.5 million will cover all 3 states? or is this just for one? I'm confused.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:38 PM

Nov 2016

If they refuse to do any of these recounts, will she keep our money?

TIA if anyone knows the answers to the above.

athena

(4,187 posts)

49. It will cover all the states.

Reply to KewlKat (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:50 PM

Nov 2016

From the page:

https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

If we do not raise enough for any recount (which is highly unlikely) we pledge to use the money for election integrity efforts and to promote systemic voting system reform. If we raise more than what's needed, the surplus will also go toward election integrity efforts.

Please donate!

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)

50. thank you. I'm gonna go ahead and donate.

Reply to athena (Reply #49)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:00 PM

Nov 2016

If the recounts don't happen, then election integrity is paramount...so another great cause.

Do you suppose she's doing this because the WH really doesn't want this to happen? That's per that NY Mag article anyway. I thought Jill was supportive of drumpf so again, confused about the motive.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)

51. 1,932,000 already......I'd say she's got the funds, now will the states comply with her requests?

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:19 AM

Nov 2016

Massacure

(7,525 posts)

52. I cannot speak to Pennsylvania or Michigan, but from the original article:

Reply to KewlKat (Reply #51)

Thu Nov 24, 2016, 01:30 AM

Nov 2016

From the original article, Wisconsin Election Comissioner Mike Hass states:

If Stein petitions for a recount by 5:00 p.m. on Friday and has the money to pay for it, WEC Administrator Mike Haas said the agency is required by state law to order it - barring a court order that says otherwise.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)

53. over 2.2 million now

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2016, 01:33 AM

Nov 2016

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)

54. 2.3 million. Almost there... the people REALLY want a recount...

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2016, 02:08 AM

Nov 2016

This is a good demonstration of how much people don't want Trump.

We need a lot more of this...

Bearware

(151 posts)

55. And for senate and house races too

Reply to tinrobot (Reply #54)

Thu Nov 24, 2016, 04:52 AM

Nov 2016

Only problem is the filing deadlines are coming up. If the people able to file for recounts setup with the same site as Jill did they should have their challenge money within a day.

While we are at it and people are still angry, it might be a good time to setup a reward fund for people willing to come forward with insider information that leads to an indictments and convictions for election fraud!

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