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Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 11:56 PM Nov 2016

Jill Stein raises over 4m to request US election recounts in battleground states

Source: Guardian

The campaign had reached 4m by just before 4pm EST.
Stein said she was acting due to compelling evidence of voting anomalies and that data analysis had indicated significant discrepancies in vote totals that were released by state authorities.

These concerns need to be investigated before the 2016 presidential election is certified, she said in a statement. We deserve elections we can trust.

The fundraising page said it expected to need around 6m-7m to challenge the results in all three states.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/23/jill-stein-election-recount-fund-michigan-wisconsin-pennsylvania



This is good news, the money has doubled in a short period of time. This is looking promising that Jill will file for a recount. Thanks Jill!!!

https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

Here are the filing fees and deadlines for each state:

Wisconsin: $1.1 million by Nov 25
Pennsylvania: $0.5 million by Nov 28
Michigan: $0.6 million by Nov 30

Those are filing fees alone. The costs associated with recounts are a function of state law. Attorney's fees are likely to be another $2-3 million, then there are the costs of the statewide recount observers in all three states. The total cost is likely to be $6-7 million.


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Jill Stein raises over 4m to request US election recounts in battleground states (Original Post) Equinox Moon Nov 2016 OP
There's enough in the fund mountain grammy Nov 2016 #1
I'm not sure what happen to the original goal of 2.2 million quite yet but .99center Nov 2016 #2
IIRC, the first goal was for filing fees alone, and the second is for lawyers' fees. Hekate Nov 2016 #3
That was the impression they gave at first. But after they made that first 2.5, pnwmom Nov 2016 #4
Crap. That does seem sketchy. I'm kind of holding my breath until all three filings are done, .... Hekate Nov 2016 #5
Jill Stein is not going to destroy the Green Party Arazi Nov 2016 #8
Nothing destroys the Green party. People have no memory Recursion Nov 2016 #13
Jill Stein is not dumb. She's not going to pull a bait and switch Arazi Nov 2016 #14
I agree & I just donated..... Little Star Nov 2016 #19
Worse: the "first state" is WI, which is doing a recount anyways (nt) Recursion Nov 2016 #10
And Stein missed the regular deadline for PA, so the deadline pnwmom Nov 2016 #11
This is a scam to raise money for the Green Party oberliner Nov 2016 #6
Green Party shares the same values as our party... quantumjunkie Nov 2016 #7
Not one penny from me. djg21 Nov 2016 #24
not a scam but an effort to lock-in a 'simple shallow' vote recount. That way there will Sunlei Nov 2016 #12
Hillary Clinton (or Trump) may net a few dozen additional votes. EL34x4 Nov 2016 #15
perhaps the elec college will do the right thing 12/8? when they vote (but I doubt it) Sunlei Nov 2016 #17
if only they could have experts check the machines for malware. especially floridas machines. Sunlei Nov 2016 #9
Has anyone asked Trump bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #16
He said the electoral is 'rigged' and he is correct. Hillary won the popular vote by millions. Sunlei Nov 2016 #18
Correctamundo! Little Star Nov 2016 #20
What do you expect will happen? brooklynite Nov 2016 #21
I don't see what this will acomplish Bradical79 Nov 2016 #22
she should go for florida as well, if possible. nt Javaman Nov 2016 #23
Approaching 5 million now! ananda Nov 2016 #25

mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)
1. There's enough in the fund
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:30 AM
Nov 2016

to file in Wisconsin tomorrow (the deadline.) If this is done, I will donate to this cause.

.99center

(1,237 posts)
2. I'm not sure what happen to the original goal of 2.2 million quite yet but
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:56 AM
Nov 2016

I deleted my post on the Boston Globe story so there was no confusion about the goal being met.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
4. That was the impression they gave at first. But after they made that first 2.5,
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:23 AM
Nov 2016

they indicated that ALL of that sum was going to pay for fully funding the 1st state -- not for the filing fees for all three states.

It seemed like classic bait and switch to me.

And then they reached 4.5 and now they say they have enough for 2 states -- and need another 2.5

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
5. Crap. That does seem sketchy. I'm kind of holding my breath until all three filings are done, ....
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:31 AM
Nov 2016

...in the appropriate offices and on time, and the recounts begun.

I'm trying so hard not to get my hopes up too far, but if Stein can pull this off she will get nothing but thanks from me. The fact that so much money has flowed in so fast tells me a LOT of Americans are extremely upset by the results of this rigged election. I'm just praying that Stein plays it straight with us.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
13. Nothing destroys the Green party. People have no memory
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 09:19 AM
Nov 2016

4 years from now UMC white liberals will still want a purity badge, and they have nowhere to go but Green for that.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
14. Jill Stein is not dumb. She's not going to pull a bait and switch
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 09:49 AM
Nov 2016

The Jill Stein hate here is ridiculous and blinds DU

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
19. I agree & I just donated.....
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 10:55 AM
Nov 2016

We need Election Integrity & she's the only one fighting for it.

I don't like her politics but I do like that she is doing this & if it wins her some votes next time the numbers will be so small as to not matter.

If this election has not proved that our electoral process is screwed up I don't know what will.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
11. And Stein missed the regular deadline for PA, so the deadline
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 09:10 AM
Nov 2016

she's talking about now is one required for filing a lawsuit -- IOW, a judge could just say no.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. This is a scam to raise money for the Green Party
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 05:01 AM
Nov 2016

It is insane that so many Democrats are giving money to her.

 

quantumjunkie

(244 posts)
7. Green Party shares the same values as our party...
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 07:02 AM
Nov 2016

...well, technically, they are more honestly Left than ours since they aren't paid to lose on congressional legislature to republicans (Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and a handful of other real progressives excluded of course). So it just makes total sense why we are comfortable donating to them. There is a trust.

And that being said i just donated another $100.

You're welcome

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
24. Not one penny from me.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:13 PM
Nov 2016

The Green Party is one of the factors that contributed to a Trump victory, and I cannot feel sympathy for Stein now that she has buyer's remorse after helping to get Trump elected.

If Hillary asks for a recount, that's one thing, and it likely will prove futile. But Stein shouldn't even have standing (from a non-legal perspective) to challenge the results because she lost by any measure and no recount will change that.

She should go away.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
12. not a scam but an effort to lock-in a 'simple shallow' vote recount. That way there will
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 09:11 AM
Nov 2016

be no deeper check of the mail in votes or any checks by computer security experts of machines for malware.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
15. Hillary Clinton (or Trump) may net a few dozen additional votes.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 10:08 AM
Nov 2016

Not enough to change anything but enough to give Trump the bragging rights to say, "There was a recount and I still won!"

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
17. perhaps the elec college will do the right thing 12/8? when they vote (but I doubt it)
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 10:35 AM
Nov 2016

I think the shady stuff was top flight malware on a couple of machines, especially floridas machines AND mail-in vote system was gamed somehow in many smallish chunks across Americas thousands of counties.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
9. if only they could have experts check the machines for malware. especially floridas machines.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 09:02 AM
Nov 2016
those machines are never allowed to be checked by experts for some reason

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
16. Has anyone asked Trump
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 10:18 AM
Nov 2016

indirectly, how he rigged the election?

He's dumb enough to answer. If the question is subtle.

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
21. What do you expect will happen?
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 11:11 AM
Nov 2016

There'll be a recent. The same machines will be tallied. Broadly speaking the same numbers will be found. This will NOT involve an inquiry into the coding of the machines, nor will any statistical anomalies in results be grounds for a further investigation. All this does is reinforce the fact that Trump won.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
22. I don't see what this will acomplish
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 11:36 AM
Nov 2016

If by some miracle it gets the results overturned, great. The problem is that the ways in which we know the GOP stole the election (voter suppression) and the actions some suspect handed Trump the election (Russian hackers) won't be detected by a recount. I'm just saying don't get too excited over this. I know people are desperate, but y'all are just setting yourselves up for some big disappointment.

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