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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,704 posts)
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:49 AM Dec 2016

Flynn's son spreads conspiracy theory about DC pizza shop

Last edited Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:14 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: The Hill

Flynn's son spreads conspiracy theory about DC pizza shop

By Rebecca Savransky - 12/05/16 07:41 AM EST

The son of retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, President-elect Donald Trump's pick for national security adviser, on Sunday appeared to spread a conspiracy theory that Hillary Clinton and her campaign chief ran a child-sex ring in a back room of a D.C. pizza shop.

Michael Flynn Jr. on Sunday tweeted about the false story after an armed man entered Comet Ping Pong in Northwest D.C. and claimed to be investigating the story.

Until #Pizzagate proven to be false, it'll remain a story," Flynn Jr. tweeted on Sunday.

"The left seems to forget #PodestaEmails and the many coincidences tied to it, he added.


Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/308723-flynns-son-spreads-conspiracy-theory-about-dc-pizza-shop



https://twitter.com/mflynnJR

https://twitter.com/jackposobiec/status/805559273426141184

Yeah, I know: in other late breaking news, scientists have determined that water is wet. What's new about this story is the article in The Hill this morning.

Hat tip Joe.My.God: Son Of Potential Trump Administration Pick Michael Flynn Claims DC Pizza Shop Shooting Was False Flag
http://www.joemygod.com/2016/12/05/son-potential-trump-administration-pick-michael-flynn-claims-dc-pizza-shop-shooting-false-flag/

Also at DU, and posted before my LBN thread:

Fake News Weaponized
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028333090

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Flynn's son spreads conspiracy theory about DC pizza shop (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2016 OP
he should mercuryblues Dec 2016 #1
At the very least, the owners murielm99 Dec 2016 #25
Um.... hasn't Pizzagate been proven to be false? Initech Dec 2016 #2
"There are no such things as facts anymore." Oneironaut Dec 2016 #12
I heard the woman say it on NPR tom_kelly Dec 2016 #15
by may this story will be accepted as 100% true 0rganism Dec 2016 #3
That's Flynn's son *and chief of staff* muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #4
If we were living in a time in which rational thought processes prevailed, mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2016 #11
Aren't there nepotism laws that would keep Flynn from having his son on staff? csziggy Dec 2016 #18
Very important point. Chief of Staff should be included in every article about him. suffragette Dec 2016 #19
This is an important story. We must use it to our fullest advantage. SpankMe Dec 2016 #5
I agree 100% BigOleDummy Dec 2016 #28
K & R Scurrilous Dec 2016 #6
I can't believe how gullible some people are. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #7
heard that Trump was their top customer rurallib Dec 2016 #8
If the guy was black he'd be dead now. Ligyron Dec 2016 #9
Apology not enough Joe! America does not need this creep in the WH! riversedge Dec 2016 #10
Maybe fake news is a new strategy for the left? Although, it is hard to top the truth. 33taw Dec 2016 #13
And now that son has a .gov transition team email address NightWatcher Dec 2016 #14
That is insane!! whathehell Dec 2016 #16
Stuff like this reminds me of PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #17
There needs to be some consequences for this kind of irresponsible tweeting. Kablooie Dec 2016 #20
There are. He'll be promoted. Then he'll hand you the bill as he walks away. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2016 #21
It is difficult to prove a negative bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #22
That level of insane, evil, nazi, and stupid obviously indicates he's a Bircher. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #23
I know public figures like Hillary have a difficult time suing for libel and slander, BUT Vinca Dec 2016 #24
Seems the Pizza store owner exboyfil Dec 2016 #27
No longer on the transition team exboyfil Dec 2016 #26
Until _______________ proven to be false, it'll remain a story keithbvadu2 Dec 2016 #29
Rapunzel and Snow White were never proven to be false either. DFW Dec 2016 #30
THis guy hurple Dec 2016 #31
Aimless pizza shop gunman latched onto internet, religion Judi Lynn Dec 2016 #32
Utterly ridiculous. nt riderinthestorm Dec 2016 #33

mercuryblues

(14,552 posts)
1. he should
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:55 AM
Dec 2016

be arrested for inciting violence.

Support fake story about political opponent. Someone tries to shoot up a place based on the fake story. Say fake story is still real, despite knowing the consequences of his actions.

Initech

(100,121 posts)
2. Um.... hasn't Pizzagate been proven to be false?
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:09 PM
Dec 2016

Or just like the birther scandal, no matter how much proof you show them, the Trumplers will only make excuses as to why it isn't proof?

Oneironaut

(5,538 posts)
12. "There are no such things as facts anymore."
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:37 PM
Dec 2016

Didn't someone on the Trump team say something like that? That's a scary statement.

tom_kelly

(963 posts)
15. I heard the woman say it on NPR
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:50 PM
Dec 2016

as I was driving last week. I couldn't believe my ears and was completely angered when she wasn't shut down and shamed on the spot. The other guest did go after her on it but the host, don't think it was Diane, didn't push back hard enough and allowed her to talk her way through it.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,704 posts)
11. If we were living in a time in which rational thought processes prevailed,
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:33 PM
Dec 2016

this fact by itself would be enough to cause the elder Flynn to withdraw.

We are not living in that time. Instead, what happens is that the reporters covering the story receive threatening emails and have to disable the comments to their articles.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
18. Aren't there nepotism laws that would keep Flynn from having his son on staff?
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 03:17 PM
Dec 2016

I know there has been discussion about Trump's children but what about his appointees' children?

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
19. Very important point. Chief of Staff should be included in every article about him.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 03:23 PM
Dec 2016

He is an official in addition to being a relative.

SpankMe

(2,972 posts)
5. This is an important story. We must use it to our fullest advantage.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:30 PM
Dec 2016

We should all be afraid that right wing fuck-nuts who are either running our country, or are very close to those who are running our country, are mentally disturbed enough to believe these crazy lies - and to spread them and act on them.

We must be sure this stays on the front burner for as long as possible to expose Trump's appointees as mentally and behaviorally unfit to be in any position of leadership or power.

It's getting worse every day. And the mainstream media is worse now at keeping check on power than they were during the campaign. I guess they don't want to be shut out, so they're soft shoeing on Trump's transition. Even MSNBC's daytime coverage seems to almost cheerlead some of what's going on in Trump's world.

Here are some details on the guy who went in to the pizza place with a gun:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nc-man-told-police-he-went-to-dc-pizzeria-with-assault-rifle-to-%e2%80%98self-investigate%e2%80%99-election-related-conspiracy-theory/ar-AAl82FT?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

I've eaten at this place before. It was featured on an episode of Diners Drive-ins and Dives. It's one of the best pizza's I've ever eaten.

BigOleDummy

(2,272 posts)
28. I agree 100%
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:20 PM
Dec 2016

I mean just how far "out there" in your hatred/paranoia do you have to be to actually believe something as patently crazy as this? I also agree with you about the media. There comes a point when you MUST acknowledge the sheer lunacy of what's happening to our country. I think there's a credible charge of sedition to be made against the likes of Breitbart AND Fox.

Ligyron

(7,644 posts)
9. If the guy was black he'd be dead now.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:39 PM
Dec 2016

fired AN ASSAULT RIFLE?

Hell, they kill black kids for carrying bb guns.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
14. And now that son has a .gov transition team email address
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:44 PM
Dec 2016

Yes, we're doomed.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/05/politics/kfile-flynn-transition-email/index.html

(CNN)The son of incoming national security adviser Michael Flynn, who Sunday night peddled a false conspiracy theory about a DC pizzeria, has an official government transition email address.

Michael G. Flynn, the son of retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, has served as his father's top aide and chief of staff. CNN's KFile previously reported that he pushed extreme conspiracies theories on Twitter and Facebook.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,925 posts)
17. Stuff like this reminds me of
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:45 PM
Dec 2016

the world before the Enlightenment, when people believed all sorts of crap because they honestly knew so very little about the world, physics, chemistry, biology, and so on.

Today there's no excuse. And don't we have libel laws in this country?

Kablooie

(18,645 posts)
20. There needs to be some consequences for this kind of irresponsible tweeting.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 06:48 PM
Dec 2016

We have freedom of speech but not freedom of consequences from speech.
Tweeting or putting information online publicly should be covered under Libel law which covers making untrue statements in print or broadcast.






mahatmakanejeeves

(57,704 posts)
21. There are. He'll be promoted. Then he'll hand you the bill as he walks away.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 09:47 PM
Dec 2016

How long have you lived in this country?

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
23. That level of insane, evil, nazi, and stupid obviously indicates he's a Bircher.
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 02:21 PM
Dec 2016

Lemme guess, his whackjob nazi dad was buddies with Curt LeMay.

Vinca

(50,323 posts)
24. I know public figures like Hillary have a difficult time suing for libel and slander, BUT
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 02:56 PM
Dec 2016

this particular slur is so vile and so out of bounds, I would encourage her to go after Flynn, Flynn Jr. and the source of the smear.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
27. Seems the Pizza store owner
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 04:04 PM
Dec 2016

has a much lower threshold by not being a public figure and, darn it, he can already show damages.

Call a lawyer immediately.

keithbvadu2

(36,994 posts)
29. Until _______________ proven to be false, it'll remain a story
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:00 AM
Dec 2016

Use the same logic for Trump molesting children with the Lolita Express.
Trump raping a 13 year old.

Good for many other Trump escapades.

DFW

(54,473 posts)
30. Rapunzel and Snow White were never proven to be false either.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 05:36 AM
Dec 2016

Of course, they do remain stories, it should be noted.......

hurple

(1,307 posts)
31. THis guy
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 05:45 PM
Dec 2016

Should be arrested, immediately, for accessory in the shooting on Sunday.

Good lord... what are we in for over teh next 4 years?

Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
32. Aimless pizza shop gunman latched onto internet, religion
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:33 PM
Dec 2016

Aimless pizza shop gunman latched onto internet, religion

Jonathan Drew and Jessica Gresko, Associated Press
Updated 9:14 pm, Wednesday, December 7, 2016





SALISBURY, N.C. (AP) — Before he was charged with firing an assault rifle inside a Washington restaurant, where he had been drawn by a fake news story, Edgar Maddison Welch was known as a well-meaning father of two girls who unnerved some with his religious fervor and sometimes had trouble detaching himself from the internet.

Police say he came to the Comet Ping Pong pizza restaurant Sunday on a self-imposed mission to investigate a false account of a child sex ring that had spread through fake internet news stories.

For years, he had appeared to lead an aimless life of things left unfinished: jobs, college and even marriage. Along the way, he was convicted of drunken driving and minor drug charges.

. . .

In late October, the 28-year-old struck a teenage pedestrian with his car in his hometown of Salisbury, requiring the boy to be airlifted to a hospital, according to a police report that said he wasn't immediately charged. More recently, days before he drove to Washington, he was dropped from the rolls of a volunteer fire department.


More:
http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Aimless-pizza-shop-gunman-latched-onto-internet-10780997.php



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