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NeoConsSuck

(2,544 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:06 PM Jan 2017

Ex-Sen. D'Amato kicked off flight after rallying passengers against crew

Source: CNN

New York (CNN)Former New York Sen. Al D'Amato was removed from a delayed New York-bound JetBlue flight on Monday after trying to rally passengers against the flight crew.

JetBlue flight 1002 from Fort Lauderdale, Florida, to New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport was originally supposed to depart at 1:42 p.m. ET, but six delays pushed the departure time to just after 8:00 p.m.

Once the plane boarded, the pilots informed passengers that 10 of them needed to move from the front to the back of the plane due to weight distribution.

Passenger Layla Delarmelina said six passengers refused and "the captain wasn't doing anything."
Delarmelina said the former senator got up and confronted the people that refused, and then told the captain to just pick people to move.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/al-damato-plane/index.html




There is video at the link.
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Ex-Sen. D'Amato kicked off flight after rallying passengers against crew (Original Post) NeoConsSuck Jan 2017 OP
Hahahahahahahah annabanana Jan 2017 #1
How much do these people weigh??? HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #2
weight and balance tables overrule passenger seating assignments rickford66 Jan 2017 #3
ANYONE who understands aircraft would gladly move to keep plane within weight & balance limits groundloop Jan 2017 #4
I know, right.... dhill926 Jan 2017 #6
Pfft! tenderfoot Jan 2017 #14
Jesus.. I was on a small plane once where they moved a bunch of around for the weight issue nini Jan 2017 #5
So was I Retrograde Jan 2017 #8
he's sorry, they're sorry, let's do the time warp again. wait. forget the last part. n/t orleans Jan 2017 #7
It sounds like he was trying to help get people to move mnhtnbb Jan 2017 #9
Such a short flight, I wonder if they off-loaded some fuel. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #10
yeah, it's not as bad as i thought. i thought he was rallying people to NOT move JI7 Jan 2017 #11
So he's still a dick. hollowdweller Jan 2017 #12
He's a dick because he was trying to get people to move? former9thward Jan 2017 #21
This is what happens when on-board weight shifts in mid-flight: Aristus Jan 2017 #13
Is that what happens when people get up to use the facilities HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #16
Yes. Aristus Jan 2017 #17
That's the video I was thinking of when I read this story... xor Jan 2017 #19
D'Amato ..... how funny that his name should turn up. MADem Jan 2017 #15
Life mimics cartoon. JackRiddler Jan 2017 #18
Good one! Thanks. Judi Lynn Jan 2017 #22
The headline has the facts mixed up. onenote Jan 2017 #20

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
1. Hahahahahahahah
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:09 PM
Jan 2017
JetBlue spokesman Morgan Johnston told CNN, "The decision to remove a customer from a flight is not taken lightly. If a customer is causing a conflict on the aircraft, it is standard procedure to ask the customer to deplane, especially if the crew feels the situation runs a risk of escalation in-flight."
After being told to deplane, video taken by passenger Jacqueline Galante shows D'Amato attempting to rally passengers to stand up and deplane with him.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
4. ANYONE who understands aircraft would gladly move to keep plane within weight & balance limits
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:45 PM
Jan 2017

It's a big deal to ensure that the plane is operating within it's weight & balance limitations, and well within a pilot's/captain's responsibility to do whatever is necessary to ensure safe operation.

nini

(16,672 posts)
5. Jesus.. I was on a small plane once where they moved a bunch of around for the weight issue
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:50 PM
Jan 2017

I just freaking did it - we all did. No biggie.

What the hell is wrong with people? Though it's funny that asshat got in trouble.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
8. So was I
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 09:25 PM
Jan 2017

For some reason the passengers ended up clustered on the left side of the plane. The flight attendents asked some of them to move to the right side to balance the load - no objections. It was a tiny plane, though - maybe 16-20 rows.

mnhtnbb

(31,391 posts)
9. It sounds like he was trying to help get people to move
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:29 AM
Jan 2017

and then got frustrated and wanted the captain to come back and move people.

He has a point. Why should everyone have to sit around and wait longer because six people are a$$holes?
Captain should have come back, selected people to move, and they do it or they leave the plane.


I am so SICK of flying.

My husband and I flew back last Friday from LaGuardia to Raleigh. The gate agent announced the plane was overweight
and they were asking first 5 people to give up seats, and then 10 people to give up seats. They started out at $200 vouchers
and then upped it to $500. Problem was, it was AA' s last flight out and the winter storm was due to hit within two hours
after our arrival time. Then they said if they didn't get volunteers, they would start removing people based on who last checked in.
No way did 10 people line up to take the offer.

After we boarded and were ready to go, I could only count 2 empty seats, so the whole thing didn't make sense to me at all.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
10. Such a short flight, I wonder if they off-loaded some fuel.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:57 AM
Jan 2017

Unless it was a turboprop or small jet, I can't see how a larger jet couldn't handle a full load of passengers and enough fuel to make that short flight.

former9thward

(32,016 posts)
21. He's a dick because he was trying to get people to move?
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 10:52 PM
Jan 2017

Not surprising you would make a post like that....

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
13. This is what happens when on-board weight shifts in mid-flight:
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:30 AM
Jan 2017


Extreme example, but still; the pilot tells you to re-distribute on-board weight, you do what he says...
 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
16. Is that what happens when people get up to use the facilities
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 05:40 AM
Jan 2017

And get backed up behind the drink cart

xor

(1,204 posts)
19. That's the video I was thinking of when I read this story...
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:58 PM
Jan 2017

With 10 people we're probably somewhere between 1,500 to 2,000 lbs? I don't understand why anyone would give a pilot hassle over that.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. D'Amato ..... how funny that his name should turn up.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 03:43 AM
Jan 2017

He had the same "kink" (allegedly) that Trump had--in fact, he became furious when that proclivity became a part of the "Sex and The City" plotline--with Carrie (the Candace Bushnell character) dating a NYC politician (D'Amato, disguised) who wanted Carrie to do the R-Kelly on him.

He was making noise that he was gonna sue, but he never did.

Just made it worse for him!

The part of D'Amato (disguised) was played brilliantly by John Slattery:

http://www.avclub.com/article/forget-sterlings-gold-and-remember-sterlings-golde-217393

onenote

(42,704 posts)
20. The headline has the facts mixed up.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:49 PM
Jan 2017

D'amato was ordered off the plane after he berating passengers who weren't following the crews orders. He only started his attempt to rally passengers (to get off with him) after he had been ordered off.

The headline has it backwards.

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