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TexasTowelie

(112,386 posts)
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:55 AM Jan 2017

Pope: I'll Judge Trump After We See What He Does

Source: AP

Pope Francis says he'll wait to see what U.S. President Donald Trump does before forming an opinion about him.

In an interview published Saturday evening by Spanish newspaper El Pais, Francis says he doesn't like "judging people early. We'll see what Trump does."

Asked about populist-style political leaders emerging in the United States and Europe, Francis warned against seeking a savior in times of crisis.

He said Adolf Hitler in the 1930s' Germany "was voted for by the people and then he destroyed the people."

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/pope-judge-trump-44958373

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Pope: I'll Judge Trump After We See What He Does (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jan 2017 OP
So shall we wait until many people are dead to judge him? madokie Jan 2017 #1
Agree and disagree. CincyDem Jan 2017 #4
That wasn't the Pope's point, but whatever. George II Jan 2017 #8
Appeasement 101 CincyDem Jan 2017 #2
Bigotry. Misogyny. Racism. Deceit. Iggo Jan 2017 #19
Don't let him do anything bucolic_frolic Jan 2017 #3
Shit. Tell the big guy to do something. dalton99a Jan 2017 #5
I did like his point about people seeking a savior. ginnyinWI Jan 2017 #6
I have seen enough. SamKnause Jan 2017 #7
Probably waiting for the Roe v Wade overturn. Dave Starsky Jan 2017 #9
Yep. llmart Jan 2017 #10
Why would any Pope want to kiss your "fucking ass"? rug Jan 2017 #11
Good point. I'm a consenting adult. Dave Starsky Jan 2017 #12
Surely you can name the Popes doing that. rug Jan 2017 #13
I can name Popes who've enabled it. Dave Starsky Jan 2017 #14
He had shitloads of controversies. Which one? rug Jan 2017 #15
I give up. You win. Dave Starsky Jan 2017 #16
Fighting with religious nuts or anti-religious bigots is never productive. rug Jan 2017 #17
They have a bad history rep too on trump types. Wait and see playbook lunasun Jan 2017 #18

madokie

(51,076 posts)
1. So shall we wait until many people are dead to judge him?
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:03 AM
Jan 2017

a perfect example of why I lost my religion years and years ago.

fuck that noise of turning the other cheek, all it gets one is two checks beet red from being slapped

CincyDem

(6,385 posts)
4. Agree and disagree.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:09 AM
Jan 2017


Perfect example of my departure too.

I don't think this is turning the other cheek. I think it's a rerun of the Vatican's relationship with Germany in the 30's & 40's when they looked at Hitler and his atrocious acts. The Vatican said, in effect, "Not my cheek" and took no position.

Wait and see is his version of not my problem. Just wait for trump to make some comment that leaves open even the slightest possibility that churches lose their tax breaks and we'll hear the Vatican screaming from the dome of St. Peter's.


CincyDem

(6,385 posts)
2. Appeasement 101
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:05 AM
Jan 2017


Wait and see. As if Trump just fell off the turnip truck with no history of bigotry, misogyny, racism, deceit, etc, etc, etc... What is The Pope waiting to see ? Maybe a turn to pro-choice? Maybe a twit-slip about women in the priesthood? Or will he wait for the camps to open?

What are we waiting to see ???

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
6. I did like his point about people seeking a savior.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:19 AM
Jan 2017

It's happening in other countries too--this populist leader thing.

Our President is a lying, vulgar, racist, sexist, conceited, emotionally unstable con artist who conned enough people to get into office. Francis knows this but wants to appear fair. It won't take long for all to see that he's going to be the same in office as he has been out, or worse.

I'm going to try not to be as obsessed about it as I have lately. We have to rely on the entities that have some power to deter him: Congress, the Courts, Intelligence community, the media. And then, of course, he has one more enemy: reality.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
7. I have seen enough.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:36 AM
Jan 2017

I know exactly what he and the EVIL Republicans will do.

He and the Evil Republicans have made it abundantly clear what they stand for.

They are the greatest threat this country faces !!!

They destroy everything they touch !!!

They do not govern, because they are intentionally trying to destroy the government !!!

They only win elections by lying, cheating, and conning uninformed and misinformed people !!!!

They want to turn the U.S. into a police state Theocracy run by Wall Street.

FUCK THEM ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
9. Probably waiting for the Roe v Wade overturn.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:40 AM
Jan 2017

Which is why this Pope, and all other Popes, can kiss my fucking ass.

llmart

(15,552 posts)
10. Yep.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:59 AM
Jan 2017

I'm not Catholic so I really don't care what the pope says.

The sight of all those women protesting probably scares him too.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
16. I give up. You win.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:22 AM
Jan 2017

I've been fighting with religious nuts my whole life. This won't be productive for either of us.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
17. Fighting with religious nuts or anti-religious bigots is never productive.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:27 AM
Jan 2017

Good thing neither of us is doing that.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
18. They have a bad history rep too on trump types. Wait and see playbook
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:42 AM
Jan 2017
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/pius.html

Hope this pope learned from history but the reichkonkordat type symbolic like like could come over a unified R vs W taken down or gay rights removal. Let's hope not
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