Trump signs order reducing regulations
Source: The Hill
President Trump on Monday signed an executive order aimed at rolling back regulations, fulfilling one of his campaign pledges.
Federal agencies will need to revoke two regulations for every new regulation they request. Administration officials told The Associated Press that they are naming the new directive a one in, two out plan.
The new executive order makes exceptions for emergencies and national security.
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During the campaign, Trump vowed to reduce regulations and at a meeting last week with business executives, he promised to cut them "massively" as well as cut taxes for businesses.
Read more: http://www.thehill.com/homenews/administration/316839-trump-to-sign-order-reducing-regulations
I guess Trump just repealed the Administrative Procedures Act. Who needs Congress?
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)I mean, he's on record as stating he wants to destroy the state... he's just making his first steps in doing so as all of those people in the DC capitol building roll over and play dead.
mtngirl47
(989 posts)So who is supposed to decide which regulations to take out? FFS
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)Well that seems like a reasonable way to go about it.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)he will completely ignore congress and just keep issuing presidential decrees. mark my words.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)It would be pretty easy to just incorporate the two rules to be deleted to be incorporated into a new rule.
bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)Employees, public and private, will find a way around anything.
starshine00
(531 posts)This is like a King blinding all his competition to the thrown or something it is so unreasonable. This is insulting to us as a country, there should be no blanket repeal of regulations, each one should be judged on its merit.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)folks from other countries, but not from REAL threats like dirty air, water, food, medicine ad nauseatum!
starshine00
(531 posts)We have to be the best in the world at the things that matter.
Yonnie3
(17,442 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,720 posts)BainsBane
(53,034 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)Congress signed off on the agencies that make regulations, or in some
cases passed laws to approve them.
Stroke of a pen, these laws are gone. I say so. Presidents don't even have
line item veto, and that is a budgetary angle.
metalbot
(1,058 posts)The BATFE, for example, has thousands of pages of regulations on the manufacturing of firearms. Those aren't laws, but there are laws that says that the BATFE can enforce their regulations (unless the regulations are found to be unconstitutional). Trump's EO doesn't apply to laws that form the framework for the regulations.
The EO is a disaster, because there is no definition for what a "regulation" is. (And this is on top of the broader issue of why such an order would be helpful or needed in any way).
For example:
Foreign owned banks operating in the US must:
1. Do A
a. This must be done each quarter
b. Chief Treasury Officer must sign off on this
2. Do B
a. This must be done once a year
b. Chief Treasury Officer must sign off on this
Is that one regulation or two or four or six?
This is just another not-even-half-baked campaign promise that he's checking the box on.
Ms. Toad
(34,074 posts)(if we count them that way) into one. Just renumber, reformat.
Moron.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)I worked in small businesses all my working life and I can tell you that there are so many regulations and requirements, not only for the federal government but also state and local ones, that they can be a hardship. Obviously, some are vital for the environment or safety, but some would just be laughable if we hadn't been forced to follow them.
I think he's way off saying 75% are unnecessary, however.
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)No snark at all....but can you give any more detail to the kinds of regulations that made running a small business difficult and created hardship.
I really am just asking for information ~
Peace
rickford66
(5,523 posts)radical noodle
(8,000 posts)The migratory bird regulation (which I assume is still in force since I retired 4-1/2 years ago). If you find a dead migratory bird you are supposed to notify certain officials and identify the location. The problem is that I worked for construction companies, and the guys who worked there wouldn't know a migratory bird from a goldfinch. When I passed out that regulation they all looked at me like WTF? It isn't that I don't see what they're going for, it's that you can bet that unless they find a dead eagle they're just never going to "see" it.
The hazmat book thing goes way over the top. I sometimes wonder if they do that in order to be able to fine you for something. We worked our butts off trying to make sure that everything they used was in the book, a nearly impossible task. Then one day a brake line broke on one of the trucks and the brake fluid wasn't in the book. Those guys didn't work with brake fluid but still because it was inside the truck (like so many other things) they wanted it in the book. I also understand the reasons for the hazmat books but there seems to be no limit on what they wanted.
Safety rules are over the top and difficult to follow because they can be contradictory. We were a company with about 35 employees and I had to pay a safety management group several thousand dollars to make sure that nothing was left out. That was several thousand dollars that didn't come easily. No one was making a lot of money and it was a union construction company, so they got lots of employer paid benefits. Nothing should be that difficult. We actually had to hire another person in our office to deal with a lot of the regulations.
Gas line regulations (I'm talking about the gas that's piped to homes) were really confusing and required multiple hours of work. Guys who had been working on gas lines for 25-30 years were treated like novices. Again, I do understand how critical the placement of a gas line is, but it did go over the top.
Just a sample from my perspective. Those regulations could have been simplified a great deal. They also seemed to change every year so we'd have to start from scratch again. It was time consuming, tedious and expensive. We did a lot of work for Duke Energy and they kept beating us down in price while more and more regulations were added. It was nearly a losing proposition.
Listen, like most people here I know regulations keep us safe but until a person has to deal with some of these they don't know how burdensome and sometimes silly they become.
rickford66
(5,523 posts)central scrutinizer
(11,650 posts)Can I pick the two most trivial, outdated ones to throw out?
onenote
(42,704 posts)Of course, trying to figure that out will, in and of itself, add to the cost of the regulatory process.
I've been a regulatory attorney for more than 30 years and this beyond ridiculously stupid into some heretofore unknown plane of stupidity.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)to issue personal gas masks and water filters to all. By the time Trump's friends, esp. Koch's industries, make their reductions in emission controls, we will need at least that. Too bad there's not a filter to remove shit from our food. I suspect that Trump will now get his food from a clean source in western Europe.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)Just because Trump wants - doesn't mean the congress has to listen to him? Am I wrong?
Ms. Toad
(34,074 posts)Here's a reasonable overview:
https://www.epa.gov/laws-regulations/basics-regulatory-process
You'll note the President's role is limited to approving or vetoing the underlying bill that is then codified and included in the United States Code.
That's it. Done.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)More showboating from that baby in the WH.
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)Take away two for every one. Jesus. How about some thought on to which ones should go?
The pathetic thing is, this will satisfy his supporters. All these BS executive orders are convincing to them, even the ones that amount to nothing.
dalton99a
(81,513 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)brooklynite
(94,585 posts)Kablooie
(18,634 posts)So can toy companies throw out regulations that prevent them from selling knives as toys?
Can baby formula start adding plaster to their products after eliminating regulations?
Maybe seat belt regulations could be dropped.
Such a blanket order with no detail is bizarre.
procon
(15,805 posts)logosoco
(3,208 posts)kids to clean their rooms. Things got moved around a bit but when you really stood back and looked at it, nothing really was better.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)everyone out in the countryside now getting it-----------------hello fascism.
With this dictatorial fascists and his cronies sitting in the oval office and is Rat F***king everything and they all smile, and say cheese to the camera.
What's going to be amazing to watch, is this right wing fascists party not even realize they have been had by one of there own, now that he now owns them and they own him, and he is just Rat F***king
2naSalit
(86,636 posts)They_Live
(3,233 posts)If I install a new stop sign at an dangerous intersection, I will need to remove two other stop signs that are already established.
Makes no sense.
deancr
(150 posts)Because regulations are like M&Ms-one red equals two blues. Trump saw it on Morning Joe.
Dumb tide rising.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)This is straight out of the 'alternative reality' these rightwing fanatics and their enablers imagine.
The mind of a simpleton.
golfguru
(4,987 posts)Make Trump 1 termer!!!
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,464 posts)That's one week.
golfguru
(4,987 posts)Include McCain, Graham in the count.
matt819
(10,749 posts)This would suggest that 7% or more of his supporters are no longer his supporters. Depending on any number of factors, this would suggest that more than 4 million of his voters probably wouldn't vote for him today. They are the ones who need to get on the phones to their (presumably) republican legislators and let them know that they are no longer blindly supporting the shitgibbon.
Freethinker65
(10,023 posts)jmowreader
(50,559 posts)If the Federal Money Agency had a regulation requiring dollar bills to be green and another requiring them to have the words "one dollar" on them, why couldn't the new regulation requiring them to be printed on hemp paper be an omnibus regulation that encompasses the first two rules? They could then satisfy Caligula's edict without actually changing anything.