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bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 02:12 AM Feb 2017

North Korea faces 'overwhelming' US response if it uses nuclear arms -- Mattis

Source: The Guardian

Donald Trumps defence secretary has warned North Korea it would face an effective and overwhelming response from the US if it used nuclear weapons.

Speaking in South Korea on Friday, James Mattis reassured the government in Seoul that the US would retaliate should its northern neighbour launch any attack.

Mattis, the first senior figure in the new US administration to make an overseas visit, is expected to offer similar security reassurances to Japan despite a suggestion by Trump during the election campaign that Washingtons commitment to its closest ally in the region could weaken unless Tokyo paid more towards the cost of hosting American troops.

Any attack on the United States, or our allies, will be defeated, and any use of nuclear weapons would be met with a response that would be effective and overwhelming, Mattis said in Seoul before leaving for Japan, where he will meet the prime minister, Shinzo Abe, and the countrys foreign and defence ministers.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/03/n-korea-faces-overwhelming-us-response-if-it-uses-nuclear-arms-mattis

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cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
4. Sounds simply like he's just stating the obvious in that if North Korea is really stupid enough
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 03:17 AM
Feb 2017

to go from using its nukes as propoganda with its people to actually using them that they had better be prepared for retaliation by the US.

bhikkhu

(10,724 posts)
2. Cue Big Talk from the Cherished Leader on the other side...
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 02:22 AM
Feb 2017

"I see your 'Effective and overwhelming' and raise you a "devastating and amazingly catastrophic!"

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
5. By Who?
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 04:07 AM
Feb 2017

You think Russia is going to escalate over NK? I'm sure Trumps best buddy will bless the action beforehand. As would the rest of the world probably . If China's dumb enough to get involved they would cease to exist too leaving Russia as the preeminent power on that side of the globe.

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
6. The only way I see Russia or China using its nukes on the US is if the US tries to do a first strike
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 05:02 AM
Feb 2017

on North Korea or on China or Russia of course which is unlikely even with Trump in office and if he should try to use the nukes for anything short of an invasion on the US or one of our allies or some other country using their nukes first on the US or our allies hopefully someone would have the common sense to take the launch ability from him.

NickB79

(19,271 posts)
9. Even a US first strike on NK wouldn't get Russia or China to launch, IMO
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 04:28 PM
Feb 2017

NK isn't important enough to either one to get them to put birds in the air.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
7. Does Cheeto know that we have a 22 yr old college student doing 15 years' hard labor in
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:17 AM
Feb 2017

North Korea? Why are these folks SO PROVOCATIVE?

The same with the ballistic missile test... If I'm not mistaken, when there is a new POTUS, this has happened before... It's as if they are saying "look, we are here".. that is ALL it is

Bayard

(22,154 posts)
8. "Face an effective and overwhelming response from the US if it used nuclear weapons"
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 01:46 PM
Feb 2017

Be kind of late after they use the nukes. So then we'd have two cowboys shooting it out, and the whole world loses. It looks like we're just rattling our sabers at the world right now to compensate for Trump's tiny hands.

EX500rider

(10,866 posts)
11. N Korean ICBM's unlikely to make US mainland..
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 06:41 PM
Feb 2017

.....even without the multi-layered ABM defenses we now have.
Their missiles have a terrible track record for successful launches.
Then they'd have to get by the AEGIS navy vessels in the western pacific, then make it past the
Ground-Based Midcourse Defense. (consisting of ground-based interceptor missiles and radar in the United States in Alaska, which would intercept incoming warheads in space.Currently some GBI missiles are located at Vandenberg AFB in California. These GBIs can be augmented by mid-course SM-3 interceptors fired from Navy ships.)
Then past any THAAD or Patriot batteries terminal defenses, if any, near target.
Then successfully detonate over target, also unlikely as they have had fizziles in even their underground tests, even more less likely to work after surviving launch and hi-G's and re-entry temperatures and miniaturization.
It's unlikely they have even have a working warhead yet, lots of hurdles.

NickB79

(19,271 posts)
10. This has been the SOP for decades
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 04:35 PM
Feb 2017

If NK had nuked Seoul under Obama's watch, you can be damn sure they'd be a smoking pile of rubble by now as well. We don't need to respond with nukes of our own, either. Their SAM sites could be knocked out in days by stealth bombers, opening the way for saturation bombing with B-2's and B-52's from the US, Guam and Diego Garcia. A few precision strikes on their hydroelectric sites, and half the country goes dark.

Matti's is simply reiterating a long-standing policy.

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