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Jose Garcia

(2,598 posts)
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 11:18 AM Feb 2017

Top Obama official: Conway broke law by promoting Ivanka's clothing line

Source: The Hill

A former top official under President Obama is accusing White House counselor Kellyanne Conway of breaking the law by telling people to buy President Trump's daughter's clothing line in a TV interview.

Chris Lu, former deputy secretary of labor, on Thursday tweeted a screenshot of the federal ethics law he believes Conway was breaking.

"This is the federal ethics law that @KellyannePolls just violated," Lu tweeted, tagging the U.S. Office of Government Ethics and Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), the chairman of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee.



Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/318668-top-obama-official-accuses-conway-of-breaking-the-law-with-ivanka

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Top Obama official: Conway broke law by promoting Ivanka's clothing line (Original Post) Jose Garcia Feb 2017 OP
The GOP no longer cares about law and order.... VMA131Marine Feb 2017 #1
Sad but true. In_The_Wind Feb 2017 #3
Yah, good luck with that, mindem Feb 2017 #2
@ChrisLu44 mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2017 #4
Every day this people scare the snot out of me. DK504 Feb 2017 #9
It might be better... 3catwoman3 Feb 2017 #34
LOCK HER UP! UpInArms Feb 2017 #5
They just don't get it and never will because they don't have to. Baitball Blogger Feb 2017 #6
Right on the money pandr32 Feb 2017 #18
Yeah, I'm sure that little shitweasel Chaffetz will get right on it..... (nt) Paladin Feb 2017 #7
Problem is... FarPoint Feb 2017 #8
Time for Jeff Sessions to file charges bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #10
Jefferson Beauregard doesn't have time for small felonies. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #30
Yes,someone should arrest Hillary immediately! tavernier Feb 2017 #11
The Rule of Law is For the Other Guy dlk Feb 2017 #12
Could someone (e.g. a competitor) sue? kiranerys Feb 2017 #13
Yes. Unfair competitive edge. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #27
No one cares.....we need to understand this. NO ONE CARES. nt adigal Feb 2017 #14
LOCK HER UP!!!! W T F Feb 2017 #15
Someone in the private sector who has standing ought to bring a law suit. This Congress will not nikibatts Feb 2017 #16
as if Trumpers can afford her shit..... samnsara Feb 2017 #17
About the clothing line I like this tweet about Nordstrom elmac Feb 2017 #19
Ha ha. LisaM Feb 2017 #22
Official White House response kacekwl Feb 2017 #20
"Obviously, she was just kidding" meadowlander Feb 2017 #23
Unfortunatley this isn't something that is criminally prosecuted madville Feb 2017 #21
the law is for the plebes--not our deluded rulers! niyad Feb 2017 #24
Lock her up Achilleaze Feb 2017 #25
They are tougher on Olympic athletes murielm99 Feb 2017 #26
Chaffetz isnt a patriot, he will not investigate a republican. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #28
More on that regulation: JHan Feb 2017 #29
Why would he? Chaffetz is a coward. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #32
Twas ever thus. mac56 Feb 2017 #31
so prosecute. barbtries Feb 2017 #33
There is low class, and then... 3catwoman3 Feb 2017 #35

mindem

(1,580 posts)
2. Yah, good luck with that,
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 11:23 AM
Feb 2017

The repukes are still trying to find a way to gut anything to do with ethics oversight.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,488 posts)
4. @ChrisLu44
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 11:41 AM
Feb 2017
@ChrisLu44

This is the federal ethics law that @KellyannePolls just violated
cc: @OfficeGovEthics @jasoninthehouse




Chaffetz gets some comments here:

Chaffetz on co-sponsoring bill: ‘We simply don’t need the Department of Education’ https://www.ksl.com/?sid=43127916


DK504

(3,847 posts)
9. Every day this people scare the snot out of me.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 12:09 PM
Feb 2017

Using their offices for personal gain. How many times have they done this?

Chap Ass will put on his cluelaess face on, okay more than usual clueless, and claim 'Nothing to see here folks, move along.'

He shows us we need to strengthen DOE more now than ever.

Baitball Blogger

(46,733 posts)
6. They just don't get it and never will because they don't have to.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 11:49 AM
Feb 2017

By their experience, in their worlds, no one is held accountable for crossing the line between the public and private sector. So they don't care about the admonishments. Not until someone in authority can go nuclear on their butts and start penalizing them.

Wake up. We are living side by side with people who have relied on backdoor access to circumvent all the rules of decorum that the rest of us live by.

bucolic_frolic

(43,177 posts)
10. Time for Jeff Sessions to file charges
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 12:13 PM
Feb 2017

which is why her promotional ad lib is either a test, or thumbing her nose at Democrats

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
30. Jefferson Beauregard doesn't have time for small felonies.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 01:58 PM
Feb 2017

Then, again, he won't have time for big felonies, either.

But, oh, he'll have plenty of time to prosecute undocumented workers and he'll look high and low for those voting fraud cases that, of course, have reached epidemic proportions in TrumpyLand. He'll spend billions going into every alleyway and abandoned building in search of those "illegals" who voted. They're out there, Beauregard!

dlk

(11,569 posts)
12. The Rule of Law is For the Other Guy
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 12:29 PM
Feb 2017

As far as Republicans are concerned, the rule of law only applies to those who don't agree with them.

kiranerys

(54 posts)
13. Could someone (e.g. a competitor) sue?
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 12:31 PM
Feb 2017

Clearly the DoJ under Sessions isn't going to do **** about this kind of thing, but could another clothing company have legal grounds to bring a civil suit against the administration over this?

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
16. Someone in the private sector who has standing ought to bring a law suit. This Congress will not
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 12:39 PM
Feb 2017

One business that see Conway's comments makes an unfair commercial advantage for a competitor.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
17. as if Trumpers can afford her shit.....
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 12:46 PM
Feb 2017

better yet.. YES Trumpers! Use your entire welfare check to buy ivankas stuff. Your kids don't need food....the Donald will take care of them for you!

meadowlander

(4,397 posts)
23. "Obviously, she was just kidding"
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 01:32 PM
Feb 2017

Why can't you all just read our minds instead of listening to what we actually say?

madville

(7,412 posts)
21. Unfortunatley this isn't something that is criminally prosecuted
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 01:25 PM
Feb 2017

Violations of these laws are typically handled through administrative actions within the person's agency, a letter of reprimand, loss of pay, etc.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
26. They are tougher on Olympic athletes
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 01:48 PM
Feb 2017

when it comes to endorsements. It is easier for them now than in the past, but they still have to follow rules.

Dumbass Republicans. We have to keep up the pressure on them.

I hope this tanks Ivanka's clothing line even further. There are plenty of other designers out there. Maybe I will start paying closer attention to the labels I purchase. It is not as though I buy clothing all the time, but I will start checking more.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
29. More on that regulation:
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 01:58 PM
Feb 2017
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/5/2635.702

5 CFR 2635.702 - Use of public office for private gain.

.................(a)Inducement or coercion of benefits. An employee shall not use or permit the use of his Government position or title or any authority associated with his public office in a manner that is intended to coerce or induce another person, including a subordinate, to provide any benefit, financial or otherwise, to himself or to friends, relatives, or persons with whom the employee is affiliated in a nongovernmental capacity.

Example 1:
Offering to pursue a relative's consumer complaint over a household appliance, an employee of the Securities and Exchange Commission called the general counsel of the manufacturer and, in the course of discussing the problem, stated that he worked at the SEC and was responsible for reviewing the company's filings. The employee violated the prohibition against use of public office for private gain by invoking his official authority in an attempt to influence action to benefit his relative.

Example 2:
An employee of the Department of Commerce was asked by a friend to determine why his firm's export license had not yet been granted by another office within the Department of Commerce. At a department-level staff meeting, the employee raised as a matter for official inquiry the delay in approval of the particular license and asked that the particular license be expedited. The official used her public office in an attempt to benefit her friend and, in acting as her friend's agent for the purpose of pursuing the export license with the Department of Commerce, may also have violated 18 U.S.C. 205.


Won't be holding my breath for Chaffetz to weigh in on this..

mac56

(17,569 posts)
31. Twas ever thus.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 02:00 PM
Feb 2017

The GOP never follows the rules that they make for others.

"This silly rule doesn't apply to ME....."

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