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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 01:34 PM Feb 2017

Full-go for NC wind farm that politicians claimed is threat

Source: Associated Press




THURSDAY, FEB 9, 2017 12:16 PM EST

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — North Carolina’s first large-scale wind farm is fully operational despite efforts by some of the state’s most powerful politicians to shut down the $400 million project as a possible national security threat.

Avangrid Renewables said Thursday its 104 wind turbines reaching 50-stories tall are now generating enough electricity for 60,000 homes. Amazon is buying the power produced in rural, northeastern North Carolina to run its Virginia data centers.

Ten North Carolina legislators including state House Speaker Tim Moore and Senate leader Phil Berger previously urged President Donald Trump’s administration to shut down the wind farm because it’s too close to a long-distance surveillance radar installation. The Navy radar in nearby Chesapeake, Virginia, scans hundreds of miles into the Atlantic and Caribbean for ships and planes.

The Pentagon said last month the two operations can coexist. The company said it trimmed the size of the project, positioned turbines differently, and conducted extensive modeling with the military’s scientists to avoid conflicting with the radar array.

Read more: http://www.salon.com/2017/02/09/full-go-for-nc-wind-farm-that-politicians-claimed-is-threat/

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Full-go for NC wind farm that politicians claimed is threat (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2017 OP
Pft, drumpf wouldn't know national securit if it bit him on the ass. lark Feb 2017 #1
Don't you just love it?! ncgrits Feb 2017 #2
Or we could just "fart in their general direction." appal_jack Feb 2017 #5
Send them each a bag of wind. nt Purrfessor Feb 2017 #6
Excellent! Lucinda Feb 2017 #3
HAHAHA! The free-market has turned against the Rethuglicans. Crowman2009 Feb 2017 #4
Spin, CCExile Feb 2017 #7
I creating a risk Soxfan58 Feb 2017 #8
No doubt, they were concerned about flying turbine blades. nt msanthrope Feb 2017 #9
How far away is this wind farm from the RADAR? briv1016 Feb 2017 #10

lark

(23,105 posts)
1. Pft, drumpf wouldn't know national securit if it bit him on the ass.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 01:38 PM
Feb 2017

He just doesn't want solar or wind or any kind of alternative energy to work since he's invested so much in an oil guy. I'm sure part of it is also that Russia is so dependent on oil and Pootie is his hero, giver of funds and also has him by the short hairs with blackmail. Nothing that's bad for Russia will be allowed to pass in drumpfs dictator loving regime.

ncgrits

(916 posts)
2. Don't you just love it?!
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 01:40 PM
Feb 2017

AND it's SO WINDY in NC today!!!!

I may need to send ol' Tim Moore and Phil Berger some congratulatory emails today.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
5. Or we could just "fart in their general direction."
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 02:31 PM
Feb 2017

How's that for a campaign? "Break Wind Against Republicans!"

k&r,

-app

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
10. How far away is this wind farm from the RADAR?
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 04:15 PM
Feb 2017

Assuming the military radar has similar properties to the NOAA TDWR RADAR:

Calculating for beam angle, refraction and the curvature of the Earth, if the RADAR is 42nm (48.3 miles) away on a 0.1 degree scan the bottom of the beam is at 510ft which clears the "50 story" turbines. In-fact, on a 0.1 degree scan out to 25nm, (28.8 miles) the bottom of the beam is experiencing ground interference. If the RADAR operates with a 0.5 degree angle like the WSR-88D the distance to clear is only 15nm. (17.3 miles) If the RADAR has a wider beam spread like the WSR-88D the distance to clear is 24nm. (
27.6 miles)

Add to that the "beamwidth" (spread) at distances shorter than the "clearing distance" and you see that the turbines will play little to no role in RADAR interference. In other words, the RADAR argument is complete bull.

Here's a simple NOAA app for calculating if you want to play around with it.
http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/tools/misc/beamwidth/beamwidth.html

(But what do I know. I only have a degree in Meteorology.)

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