He might yet leave a decent legacy. Who knew?

He also walked out of a hearing when a fellow Republican defended torture.

Thank you Senator.

Michele Bachmann. That would be priceless.

I am no fan of McCain, but at least he does have some sense of decency, which is sorely lacking in the Republican party these days.

but I have already reached my limit of the day ....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125157678

Who ARE these psychos?? Jesus, Bachmann and her fellow loony RWers have no shame.

That's what they call themselves, anyway.

Lie, cheat, steal, kill, all for their version of Jeebus?

It's all good.

-- one who's already been through the wringer because of her husband's idiocy.

Except the dead ones at the End Times.

They're OK.

along with me.

step foot in a church on a regular basis ~

Can you imagine Rush/ Ann C. in church?

It's about time someone from the Republican side called this lot out.

fine job on linking all the 'Muslims coming to get you' loonies together last night.

Then be a man John McCain and call out Bachmann and the others who are creating this attack and tell them to their faces to stop. Don't come on Fox news and then change your tune later in the day, have some nuts and do what is right for the country. You claim to be a patriot, one who cares for this country, but you zigzag on bills and ideas you once supported, but now are against. Man up sir, do whats right for the country not just your party.

He said this on the floor of the Senate.

And hateful. And intolerant. And deceitful. I wish more from the right would stand up to such obvious bullshit.

Because they are that way...

....that (then) Senator Obama was a decent man?

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMRq6Y4NmB6U&v=MRq6Y4NmB6U&gl=US

If he keeps this up, next thing you know kids'll be able to walk across his lawn without getting hollered at.

speaking out. Isn't that from the mccarthy rethug playbook left behind?

I believe that I was five or six years old, because when I was seven we moved. A woman on the corner called the police on me and my friend for cutting across her lawn on the corner. The police responded and said that she was charging us with trespassing and damaging her lawn. My parents knew that she was a flaming nut, but this was just too much. They contracted their lawyer and threaten to sue her for I believe it was malicious prosecution or something like that. I was glad that we moved out to the country where we were able to roam the fields, fish, catch frogs and snakes. We even got to help a local farmer with the delivery of calves. Strange how somethings just jog your memory of events thought to be long forgotten. It brought back a painful memory, but also those of my brothers and me having the greatest times of our youth.

I have been at the Veterans Hospital for the past three hours, multiple appointments and multiple waiting rooms. As I post this I am at the final appointment waiting room. I am using my (so called) 'smart phone' to read and post in the DU while waiting. I am surrounded by other vets, one is discussing his time as a tanker back during Viet Nam. Although I am not partaking in that discussion I am reflecting back on my time in the military. I was a teen, over in Shwabach Germany and I spent most of my offhours exploring the area by bicycle. I recall the sights the smells hell I was even recalling my favorite beer, Leitner Brau, brewed in a small village nearby. All this reflection was prompted by that discussion about tanks....you see I was a tank turret mechanic at the end of the Viet Nam era, but instead of my work back then, my mind was instead transported to the wonderful times I experienced in Shwabach.

So it's okay to damage someone's property? You haven't seen a lawn with a dead grass corner because people are too lazy to use the sidewalk?

come on - they should be arrested for that? little kids.

There should be an investigation...only it is Christian fundamentalists that should be the subject of that investigation. There is already evidence of certain members of Congress who have close associations with Christian groups who in all but words advocate for an American theocracy!

Pat Robertson, Tony Perkins, Franklin Graham...and others seem to have complete access to mainly Republican members of the US Congress...so why not investigate and get rid of the potential traitors and their congressional allies, before it's too late!

I think to be safe and prevent any encroachment we need to retire all religious posts from government. The Chaplain corps or the various military branches, the chaplains of the house legislature, White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships... etc.

And since Islam utilizes both the old and new testaments then we had best do away with symbols, scriptures, or references to such ...in government. Sharia law is really just an extension (and misinterpretation and misappropriation) of Talmudic law so we should do away with any attempt to legislate into existence any additional laws from the Old Testament.

As a matter of fact we should probably investigate anyone that makes references to Old Testament laws regarding the consumption of shellfish, the mixing of milk and meat of an animal, and screeds against homosexuality. In fact, anyone that is too vocal on their assaults on homosexual marriage or relations or anyone advocating or defending sodomy laws should probably also be investigated.

We should probably reassert the anti-establishment clause of the first amendment to further protect against the encroachment of Sharia. Therefore public schools should be free from prayer and the cub scouts have to decide once and for all about this “religious test” or lose funding and access to military bases forever. Speaking of the military, along with the abolition of the chaplain corps we would also have to demolish those absurdly expensive on base mega-churches or convert them into buildings useful to the armed forces. Training facilities might be a good use or possibly recreational centers.

Though Islam doesn’t share many holy holidays with Christianity we probably shouldn’t take any chances. After all, those religious sorts are always re-appropriating each others holidays so as a preemptive strike against that we need to go back to the days of our founding fathers and strike out Christmas. I will miss the whole thing too, but we really cannot take any chances on our war against Sharia and if that means that Father Christmas is an unintentional target then so be it. Most wars do have unintended casualties. It goes without saying that the National day of prayer and any similar state holidays would also go bye-bye.

Since C-Street seems to advocate the power of and for leaders and that they were appointed by god somehow, we must also declare “The Family” (the religious organization) to be a terrorist organization and freeze all their funding; too much of what they support sounds like Old Testament style Sharia.

I could go on, but you get the point…

The biggest threat to this country comes not for the outside, but from the extremest inside. Start drawing the lines that connect the Tea Party, the Christian Extremest, the Radical Tax Dodgers, and Bigoted Hate Groups. Let's find out who really wants to overthrow the government, or sell it out to the highest bidder. We made have freedom of speech, but I am tired of them yelling "Fire" in my crowded theater.

A good fifth post.

He'll say the same thing about Mitt Romney in a few weeks.

And because of what he said today, he'll have more credibility
as a bipartisan defender of fairness.

So always look behind one's political motives. They're politicians
after all. And partisan one's at that.

McCain deserves some props for this. I don't give a damn what his reason may or may not have been for doing this.

Just wondering if he would be willing to make a statement about this.

What really needs to happen is to bring those folks (like Huma) in to congressional chambers when Bachmann and her fellow loonies are there. Force them to personally confront those they're accusing with these outrageous allegations.

Arizona has so much negatives going and he is probably getting a ton of negative feedback from his big money fatcats. Nobody wants to move to Arizonia unless they are Teabaggers. So much Hate in that state.

though it still doesn't make up for inflicting Griftin' Princess Dumbass on the nation. Still, credit where credit is due.

I'm sure his caretakers will fix this and we won't have to worry about further outbursts.

McCain has gotten to known Huma over the years as she has been by Hillary's side since she was her intern in the 90s. Huma is popular in DC, she's the soul of discretion, very loyal to Hillary and a nice person. She doesn't deserve Bachmann's crazy rantings.

Furthermore, thanks to Bachmann and a couple of right wing kooks, the demonstrators who threw tomatoes and shoes at Hillary's motorcade thought that the US was favoring the Muslim Brotherhood. These nuts should watch their mouth, they could be responsible for someone getting hurt.

just when I had washed my hands of McCain he goes and does something thoroughly decent

She is putting the SOS life and her aide in danger by saying this shit. I bet they got a big laugh out of the tomatoes that were thrown.

They need to be censured for this Tailgunner Joe garbage.

that HE did this.

Michelle Bachmann should be held accountable for her hateful, damaging behaviour.
She is one twisted, paranoid woman.

Okay, he did the right thing THIS TIME. He is also the vitriolic partisan who brought us Sarah Palin and who distanced himself for any bills calling for even the slightest hint of reform. His fellow POW's dubbed him "Songbird". He'd have us being the cops of the world. Sorry John but in the end and per Daniel 5:27, "Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting."

He's my Senator, I can't stand him and I've never voted for him. But, like others here, I think that he made the right call in this case. We don't have to disagree with him 100% of the time.

The question is whether he will remain resolute as time passes.

Seriously, a principled person can praise a principled stand from another person, even if the latter has sinned in some other regard.

And since you quoted Scripture, John 8 and Matthew 7:1 are key here.

All I'm saying is that taking an ocassional principled stand does not elevate McCain to the ranks of the principled.

Politics is not a fucking sport.

Today's news on Weiner is that he's denying having any interest in making a political comeback at any immediate time (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57474672-503544/anthony-weiner-not-running-for-office-for-now/) -- but the flurry of rumors earlier this week that he might be considering a run for mayor of New York City shows that there could still be reason for the people who set out very deliberately to destroy his career the first time to want to do it again.

So for those playing the home game, she's supposedly an extremist Muslim carrying on a lesbian affair with the American secretary of state, while married to a New York Jew.

People like Michelle Bachmann and her ilk are dangerous to America's foreign policy.

Same crap McCarthy did in the '50's. Cooper is sounding like Edward R. Murrow and McCain sounds like the witness (forgot his name) who asked of McCarthy "Sir, have you no sense of decency?"

sort of like Papa Bush.

That doesn't make him a good guy or right on any particular issue, it just means that winning isn't so paramount to him that he will sacrifice his human dignity.

"That's right. Stop acting like a pack of Republicans, and try acting like decent truth-telling human beings for a change. Sheesh." - Sen. Jawn McCane (R)

She and Die Fuhrer would've gotten along swimmingly.

This is honorable. I wonder if he may be reflecting on what his legacy will be. I would be surprised if he seeks re-election again although one never can tell. He may be thinking about how he will be treated in posterity and considering the importance of standing for something rather than against something. Who knows. It would be a nice change if this happened.

Glad she's still working for Hillary.

Weiner acted like a jerk, but it's up to Huma whether to remain in the marriage or not. Personally, I think that she deserved better from him. She's a nice person.

We need a few more like McCain and Ciburn to start a fire and burn the Grover Norquist oaths and tell him they will not bow to him any more.

and people still think highly of the man himself regardless of whether one agrees with him on policy.

She seems to be discriminating against Muslim people. I would say Americans have the right to challenge her motives. Didn't she take an oath when she became a representative of the people to not discriminate against the American people. I think they are commiting crimes! This time the Democrats should push for prosecution if they are making up stories. You can't just make up stories that have no credible evidence when you represent the people as she and the four other Republicans who are not mentioned are doing. Time for Democratic action here!

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I still think John McCain is a fairly decent person (inspite of giving Palin a national springboard for celebrity).

In a party full of insanity, even small steps like these can be considered brave. After all, this was a speech on the House floor, and he's not even a member. Unlike Romney, McCain actually strikes me as someone having some integrity. Not too common in that party...

I want to add a quote from his statement:

"Ultimately, what is at stake in this matter is larger even than the reputation of one person. This is about who we are as a nation, and who we aspire to be. What makes America exceptional among the countries of the world is that we are bound together as citizens not by blood or class, not by sect or ethnicity, but by a set of enduring, universal, and equal rights that are the foundation of our constitution, our laws, our citizenry, and our identity. When anyone, not least a member of Congress, launches specious and degrading attacks against fellow Americans on the basis of nothing more than fear of who they are and ignorance of what they stand for, it defames the spirit of our nation, and we all grow poorer because of it."

And here's the link to the video (it's farther down on the page).
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/07/john-mccain-comes-huma-abedins-defense/54740/

We don't have to love the guy, but I'm glad he spoke out. Bachmann is the worst American politics has to offer today. Nasty, divisive, hateful, and totally filled with paranoia. There is no other way to say it, but this republican congress isn't just ineffective - it's DESTRUCTIVE...

of him.

Backmann and her ilk are disgusting, pathetic and borderline evil. They are the farthest thing from being a patriot.

... Look what she's married to, as opposed to Huma's adorable husband!

for giving the nutjobs the chance to establish their platform for so many years. They act falsely shocked, offended and try to distance themselves only when the nutjobs show the true extent of their lunacy and embarass the PUKE Party! JMHO

He's more American than Republican.

Good on him!