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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 12:20 PM Feb 2017

'He will die in jail': Intelligence community ready to 'go nuclear' on Trump, senior source says

Source: RawStory


DAVID EDWARDS
15 FEB 2017 AT 11:08 ET

U.S. national security officials are reportedly ready to “go nuclear” after President Donald Trump’s latest attack on the intelligence community.

In a series of tweets on Tuesday and Wednesday, Trump insisted that the “real scandal” was not that former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn lied about his contact with Russia. Instead, the president blasted what he said were “un-American” leaks that led to Flynn’s ousting.

-snip- (Trump's tweets)

On Wednesday, former NSA intelligence analyst John Schindler provided some insight into the reaction of national security officials.

-snip-









Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/he-will-die-in-jail-intelligence-community-ready-to-go-nuclear-on-trump-senior-source-says/
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'He will die in jail': Intelligence community ready to 'go nuclear' on Trump, senior source says (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2017 OP
Snap Zoonart Feb 2017 #1
Wait... cilla4progress Feb 2017 #2
Music To My Ears Me. Feb 2017 #5
I think he's a sick man Warpy Feb 2017 #76
IOW Botany Feb 2017 #3
If Trump were to go to jail Perseus Feb 2017 #41
Right now I'm putting this in the internet rumor department Botany Feb 2017 #44
I agree Scarsdale Feb 2017 #46
Agreed because my thinking is this. If it was Trump or even only Trump then Mitch and the rest of cstanleytech Feb 2017 #50
McConnell is keeping the Repubs from addressing the problem. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2017 #70
Lock him up! crim son Feb 2017 #4
Wishful thinking, but Loge23 Feb 2017 #6
I googled Schindler and kinda lost interest in his words. lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #10
Me too, but if they start eating their own, bring on the buffet! nt JTFrog Feb 2017 #13
But it is a great line. He will die in jail. Those words could serve to sustain me though this. n/t Hamlette Feb 2017 #22
Yea Me too. classykaren Feb 2017 #82
He's been ahead of the curve wrt Trump/Russia for a good while now. Schema Thing Feb 2017 #34
Same here PatSeg Feb 2017 #45
Whatever ... that's because we're actual 'thinking individuals' ... but given the current climate mr_lebowski Feb 2017 #83
Exactly. spixxen Feb 2017 #94
Sounds like Guiliani on the left Justice Feb 2017 #96
Off to Guantanamo! NewRedDawn Feb 2017 #7
Cuban sun? He wouldn't need the spray tan anymore! N/t TexasBushwhacker Feb 2017 #23
He'd turn from oragne to brown, brown just like a turd? GetRidOfThem Feb 2017 #24
Brown just like a "bad hombre" n/t TexasBushwhacker Feb 2017 #27
He will get a prison haircut and a cheap cotton cap. nt NCjack Feb 2017 #48
And some clothes that fit properly, for a change! n/t JawJaw Feb 2017 #78
welcome to du niyad Feb 2017 #36
Hope the links loop around many necks Marthe48 Feb 2017 #8
Kick! EricMaundry Feb 2017 #9
I'm afraid I hope that turns out to be true. The 45th's not Hortensis Feb 2017 #11
Not 19.5 Billion - 19.5 Percent of Rosneft...That's a lot more Billions of $$$$$$ than $19.5 Billion Pachamama Feb 2017 #55
Whoops! Thanks so much. A beyond-huge payoff, Hortensis Feb 2017 #57
My Hope: that the IC has been following the trail for a year or more and they know who got that 19.5 Pachamama Feb 2017 #61
Hope so too. For sure they know far more than Hortensis Feb 2017 #62
Trump's business is just a giant check kiting operation. nt tblue37 Feb 2017 #77
And house tax oversight panel won't seek 45's returns. Hortensis Feb 2017 #81
Yep, their deal with Exxon Mobile alone is worth $500B (nt) Zoider Feb 2017 #100
If there was ever a time the IC needs to go nuclear onetexan Feb 2017 #12
I agree, with the caveat being this: Volaris Feb 2017 #43
Agree, the spooks agencies' purpose are to be providing intel to the DOJ onetexan Feb 2017 #47
Hopefully they're biding their time, and just stepping on the proper toes ... mr_lebowski Feb 2017 #84
Hopefully, this isn't just wolf tickets being sold. Deuce Feb 2017 #14
I will believe it when I see it. Javaman Feb 2017 #15
My exact sentiments! Liberal In Red State Feb 2017 #18
Sadly, my spouse and I feel the same way. Ilsa Feb 2017 #26
Seriously, can they disable his access to the nuclear football first, BEFORE he totally snaps? bellmartin Feb 2017 #16
This. n/t area51 Feb 2017 #52
Just seize his assets. LisaM Feb 2017 #17
Assets? He's a loser. All he has is debts. NNadir Feb 2017 #71
I quit being excited by stuff like this after the Scooter Libby fiasco. Coventina Feb 2017 #19
Oh, I so hope this is true. Stonepounder Feb 2017 #20
Cinephile to the rescue! W Mousie Feb 2017 #72
You are right. I had the Yul Brenner pic in my mind, Stonepounder Feb 2017 #73
And here I thought it was Metallica ... in the song "Creeping Death" mr_lebowski Feb 2017 #85
OooooooWEEEEEE!!!! Better than grave dancing!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #21
One hopes it's true. n/t NNadir Feb 2017 #25
Believe it when it happens, the proof is in the pudding bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #28
Wow TNLib Feb 2017 #29
WIKILEAKS retweeted that post, this is what caught my eye. yodermon Feb 2017 #30
He considers wikileaks to be be an extension of Russian Intelligence. I think he may be right. Schema Thing Feb 2017 #35
I know it's early, but.............. MyOwnPeace Feb 2017 #31
If there is justice, he would get life in Leavenworth Prison. We owe him nothing, NCjack Feb 2017 #51
A much better outcome for the nation than martyrdom, that's for sure. Just wish it could be true. Hekate Feb 2017 #32
Go ahead Traitor Trump vlyons Feb 2017 #33
I hope this is correct, but is the source reliable? NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #37
Everyone knows you ddon't mess with the IC without backup. Nitram Feb 2017 #38
I can't wait to ask the trumpers in my office louis-t Feb 2017 #39
Or maybe "... and you're okay with this?" calimary Feb 2017 #67
That's actually better than my current one- louis-t Feb 2017 #68
Wow!! ailsagirl Feb 2017 #40
Thing is..... zentrum Feb 2017 #42
"former NSA intelligence analyst John Schindler" klook Feb 2017 #59
that would be good for America long term as well as short. We have to get past the exceptionalism of yurbud Feb 2017 #49
I can hardly wait to see his smug face in a orange jumpsuit. kimbutgar Feb 2017 #53
Like watching a real-life version of TV's "Scandal" ... PsychoBabble Feb 2017 #54
Whoooooa. calimary Feb 2017 #56
To dishonest people the leak has always been more BAD than the crime Angry Dragon Feb 2017 #58
If the FBI malingers, obstructs or otherwise fumbles the investigation pecosbob Feb 2017 #60
Why in the world? Bayard Feb 2017 #63
Because...... MyOwnPeace Feb 2017 #65
He really seems to hate Assange TNLib Feb 2017 #64
Not to be a Debbie Downer... awesomerwb Feb 2017 #66
We are going to find out if the "deep state" actually exists. roamer65 Feb 2017 #69
It exists MosheFeingold Feb 2017 #86
Agree in principle, but context is important Maaattcast Feb 2017 #90
I'm old enough to remember MosheFeingold Feb 2017 #95
Do not include FBI Chemisse Feb 2017 #74
So is the AG now, and Comey just showed his hand under his new boss by saying , no charges 4 flynn Alice11111 Feb 2017 #75
Please make it so and not too good to be true! Cha Feb 2017 #79
I guess this won't be enough to bring him down TrumpMania Feb 2017 #80
I'm envisioning the CIA showing Drumpf the Film that was taken FROM the Grassy Knoll mr_lebowski Feb 2017 #87
Dangerous times in Trump era. riversedge Feb 2017 #88
Thats why he's going nuts over leaks.... Historic NY Feb 2017 #89
Promises, promises Maeve Feb 2017 #91
we can dream.. and we can start a habit of shouting "Lock him up!" at every opportunity lostnfound Feb 2017 #92
I've lost track of the number of times something great was just about to happen. mn9driver Feb 2017 #93
great, if true Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #97
This is extraordinary blueseas Feb 2017 #98
Getting him to jail is going to take too long mnhtnbb Feb 2017 #99
Waiting..... MFM008 Feb 2017 #101

Warpy

(111,332 posts)
76. I think he's a sick man
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 04:12 AM
Feb 2017

and I just want him gone, out of government, away from anything he can use to do real damage.

Let him pursue frivolous lawsuits against everything and everyone who's ever ticked him off and die broke. Just get him out of our government along with all those bloated billionaires he's using to attack the rest of us.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
41. If Trump were to go to jail
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 02:15 PM
Feb 2017

that would bring everyone else down, because the first thing he will do is negotiate with the IC as a whistle-blower, and I would not be surprised if Ryan, McConnell would be in his list of conspirators, as well as all those people he appointed to his cabinet.

Botany

(70,567 posts)
44. Right now I'm putting this in the internet rumor department
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 02:39 PM
Feb 2017

But I have always thought that McConnell was in "it" up to his eyeballs
because he was so sure about getting a better pick for a justice @ the
SCOTUS.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
46. I agree
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 02:43 PM
Feb 2017

Plus his wife got a lucrative position in tRump's administration, too. He is in this mess clear up to his missing chin.

cstanleytech

(26,318 posts)
50. Agreed because my thinking is this. If it was Trump or even only Trump then Mitch and the rest of
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 02:55 PM
Feb 2017

the Repugnants should not be opposed to an investigation over things like the Russian hacking and if there was any communication between Trump and Russian officials during or before the election since if there was such a link the worst that could happen is Trump is replaced with Pence.
If however there are other senior Congressional Repugnants (like Mitch or Ryan example) involved in this then any could potentially uncover that and thus its more likely that they would oppose such an investigation.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
6. Wishful thinking, but
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 12:33 PM
Feb 2017

I wouldn't get all excited about John Schindler tweets - these are all hearsay and his information is not to be completely trusted. We'll see...

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
10. I googled Schindler and kinda lost interest in his words.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 12:36 PM
Feb 2017

Looks like a nutjob.

However, I do think Agent Orange will break William Henry Harrison's record for a brief term in office.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
83. Whatever ... that's because we're actual 'thinking individuals' ... but given the current climate
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:38 AM
Feb 2017

Where so few seem capable of rational thought ... and wherein any sort of unsubstantiated nonsense has at least some non-zero chance of gaining traction in the national zeitgeist, no matter which 'direction' it points ... I'm thinking maybe I'd rather have people out there saying this kind of stuff, given the utter nonsense in the other direction we're up against.

Marthe48

(17,015 posts)
8. Hope the links loop around many necks
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 12:34 PM
Feb 2017

trump, pence, ryan, mcconnell, watch next space. And all of the other anti-American russian sympathizers.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. I'm afraid I hope that turns out to be true. The 45th's not
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 12:39 PM
Feb 2017

completely competent, but he's not at all insane. Neither are all the conservatives who knowingly voted for him, and they need the kind of big, wake-up lesson watching their president convicted at trial and sent to prison might finally deliver. At least those who have potential to once again be worth their own spit politically.

According to that ex- MI6 agent's "dossier," btw, after speaking with one of the Trump camp's people under FBI investigation, Russia sold $19.5B worth of a state oil company to an entity set up in Singapore whose ownership is hidden. If the dossier's allegations are correct, that $19.5B was to be pay-off for lifting our sanctions on Russia.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
55. Not 19.5 Billion - 19.5 Percent of Rosneft...That's a lot more Billions of $$$$$$ than $19.5 Billion
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 03:01 PM
Feb 2017

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
57. Whoops! Thanks so much. A beyond-huge payoff,
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 03:08 PM
Feb 2017

if true. IC reports some parts of the dossier have been verified.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
61. My Hope: that the IC has been following the trail for a year or more and they know who got that 19.5
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 03:22 PM
Feb 2017

...as well as a full accounting of Comrade Trumpsky and every single one of the Trump campaign advisors and Mr Putin, and all conversations recorded amongst them before and certainly since the election and inauguration....

I believe this was one of the largest criminal money deals of all time....I believe that when Rachel Maddow did a story a few months back about the sizeable fortune Putin has amassed (making him actually the wealthiest man in the world, not Bill gates or Warren Buffett) that has all been followed for years by the IC and all of them are in thick. I believe Trump has been broke for a long time and cut deals to save his empire and that this will all soon be revealed. I also believe that Flynn has broken so many laws, including lying to the FBI, and the fact that he is a military general, puts him under UCMJ and he will be cutting a deal soon and Trump and many many people in his administration and in GOP (hello McConnell and Priebus) will either be cutting deals to avoid jail and prosecution, but can kiss their political careers goodbye... And I think they are trying to protect Pence.... But I believe Pence knew too....

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
62. Hope so too. For sure they know far more than
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 03:30 PM
Feb 2017

they've let out so far--the tip of a very, very dirty iceberg.

And I agree Pence had to know too, even if he may have risked breaking a leg a few times from running out of the room so fast. (If he did.) After all, look at what we were hearing from far away in our easy chairs.

And those amateurish sons way in over their heads as they traveled around making deals everywhere from Kansas to Moscow. It took them over a year just to learn that trying to sell access to their father draws the wrong kind of attention--without the slightest indication that they think breaking the law could be a problem for them. What else have these bumped-up wheelers and dealers been doing?

Who in the 45's camp will eventually make the first deal for immunity? Trump betrayed his own brother and his children, not a good example to anyone, much less this crowd.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
81. And house tax oversight panel won't seek 45's returns.
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 05:19 AM
Feb 2017

Of course, it's hardly unexpected that they refused what might well be the political equivalent of assassinating their own party's president.

So, we'll have to wait until some future panel or prosecutor does.

onetexan

(13,057 posts)
12. If there was ever a time the IC needs to go nuclear
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:01 PM
Feb 2017

- it is now. We are in a national crisis that threatens the very essence of this nation.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
43. I agree, with the caveat being this:
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 02:30 PM
Feb 2017

I'm worried about about the CIA being necessary to bring to light the potential illegal actions of a govt official. Essentially, this should be the job of the Justice Dept or assigned special prosecutor, and not the DeepState intelligence apparatus

onetexan

(13,057 posts)
47. Agree, the spooks agencies' purpose are to be providing intel to the DOJ
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 02:44 PM
Feb 2017

and not come out with their own announcements and denunciations as Comey had done prior to the elections. That was clearly deliberate.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
84. Hopefully they're biding their time, and just stepping on the proper toes ...
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:45 AM
Feb 2017

So that they don't have to be the 'actual' ones ... I suspect they're masters at this game, though ... not too worried.

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)
26. Sadly, my spouse and I feel the same way.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:50 PM
Feb 2017

Promises, promises.

But 45 has numerous protection mechanisms, from traitorous GOP congresskanks to his own private body guards. And Pooty will happily let him reside in Crimea, or St. Petersberg or wherever he can get the best nursing care for his dementia that is more apparent every day.

LisaM

(27,827 posts)
17. Just seize his assets.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:22 PM
Feb 2017

He is already on record for supporting asset seizure and nothing would gall him more than being poor.

Coventina

(27,169 posts)
19. I quit being excited by stuff like this after the Scooter Libby fiasco.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:28 PM
Feb 2017

I'll party when Trump does the perp walk, not before.

W Mousie

(22 posts)
72. Cinephile to the rescue!
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 02:15 AM
Feb 2017

I fully agree with your sentiment, and it was Yul Brenner in both cases, but he said it in the character of Ramses, Pharaoh of Egypt, not as King Mongkut of Siam.

So, make that film you mentioned, "The Ten Commandments."

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
73. You are right. I had the Yul Brenner pic in my mind,
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 02:35 AM
Feb 2017

as you say, right sentiment, wrong movie. Thanks for the correction.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
21. OooooooWEEEEEE!!!! Better than grave dancing!!!!
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:30 PM
Feb 2017

Pray dumpster's health holds out a gooood looooooong tiiiiiime!!!

bucolic_frolic

(43,259 posts)
28. Believe it when it happens, the proof is in the pudding
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:52 PM
Feb 2017

Two or three times during the campaign we were alerted to prepare for a
bombshell that would separate Trump from evangalicals, for example.
Did it happen yet?

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
31. I know it's early, but..............
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:54 PM
Feb 2017

if Drumpf were to leave office and be facing some sort of charges, do you think Pence (if he's not also tossed!) would do a "Gerald Ford" and pardon the &)@#*%^^ before he ever showed up in a courtroom?

You know - "help heal the country."

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
51. If there is justice, he would get life in Leavenworth Prison. We owe him nothing,
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 02:58 PM
Feb 2017

but the dignity of America would be served by having him die behind bars in a Red State. Only right that his supports get to fête him in his last days. The dealer-in-charge may succeed in making his last and most important deal before sentencing. If he comes clean and names all involved, maybe he gets asylum in a "friendly" country, such as Russia, with the threat of life behind bars if he ever returns to USA.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
33. Go ahead Traitor Trump
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:58 PM
Feb 2017

Tweet and whine some more about how the IC is unfair and hates you, and is politically motivated to bring you down. Come on! Show us how "strong" you are. Show us how angry you are that those IC people have tarnished you image. Let us hear you call out individual IC people and call them nasty names.

Show us what a whiney little bitch you are!

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
37. I hope this is correct, but is the source reliable?
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 02:05 PM
Feb 2017

I can't view tweets in the office - is it related to Trump or Flynn?

Nitram

(22,861 posts)
38. Everyone knows you ddon't mess with the IC without backup.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 02:06 PM
Feb 2017

Trump chose exactly the wrong people to try to intimidate. He will pay a very steep price.

calimary

(81,441 posts)
67. Or maybe "... and you're okay with this?"
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:26 PM
Feb 2017

As this drags on - "and you're STILL okay with this, right?"

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
42. Thing is.....
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 02:24 PM
Feb 2017

...the "intelligence community" doesn't talk and tweet like this in public. Or shouldn't. But the "analyst" is leaking such sentiments.

It all seems wildly amateurish and undisciplined on both sides. Why would the NSA want to let public threats like this be leaked? How does it serve the real investigation? By warning Bannon "here we come"? The real threat is the investigation---not tough jail talk. I don't get it.

Interesting how shredding machines are no longer useful in a cover-up. It's now all on tape. And I guess that can never be fully destroyed?

klook

(12,164 posts)
59. "former NSA intelligence analyst John Schindler"
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 03:14 PM
Feb 2017

-- not coming from the NSA, officially anyway. Still, I agree that it smells too good to be true. I'll believe it when I see it.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
49. that would be good for America long term as well as short. We have to get past the exceptionalism of
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 02:47 PM
Feb 2017

our leaders. They can no longer be above the law and at most allowed to resign in disgrace as Nixon did.

It is better for our democracy if people are reminded that leaders are public servants not kings, dukes, and czars.

PsychoBabble

(837 posts)
54. Like watching a real-life version of TV's "Scandal" ...
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 03:00 PM
Feb 2017

... show play out.

You learn the rules on there.

- The Intelligence Community can always kill you.

- Usually they prefer not, can get messy.

- As long as everyone stays within the Reservation, you can live ...

or DIE IN JAIL.

Love it.

calimary

(81,441 posts)
56. Whoooooa.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 03:06 PM
Feb 2017

What's that phrase I keep seeing in the comments sections? "Shit just got real."

You do NOT want the intelligence committee working against you.

pecosbob

(7,542 posts)
60. If the FBI malingers, obstructs or otherwise fumbles the investigation
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 03:21 PM
Feb 2017

the intelligence community will likely release transcripts.

Bayard

(22,128 posts)
63. Why in the world?
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 03:31 PM
Feb 2017

Why does the Trumpster think its a good idea to keep poking people that can stomp him? Our intelligence agencies, other countries, whoever. He has no self-control at all. It will bring him down. And the clown car seems to be speeding up.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
65. Because......
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 04:08 PM
Feb 2017

he's too stupid to realize the damage he's doing to himself!!!!!!
Go back and look at his arrogance displayed during his campaigns....................
Oh, hell, don't go back - start with today's press conference!

awesomerwb

(139 posts)
66. Not to be a Debbie Downer...
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 04:20 PM
Feb 2017

but I've read elsewhere that this Schindler guy is not really all that reliable (he may be into pushing conspiracy theories a little bit).

*sigh*

I do hope it's true though. (I am glued to my laptop or PC ALL friggin' day waiting for updates).

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
86. It exists
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 08:01 AM
Feb 2017

And while I welcome trouble for Trump, I can't say I am excited about unelected spies sabotaging our elected officials, regardless of how crappy said officials are.

They did this crap to JFK, Clinton, and especially Carter. (Probably also Obama but I have no personal knowledge.)

It's banana republic crap and destructive to our Country. I mean think about it--- spies who tap all our phones without warrant releasing transcripts of calls of people they unilaterally want to destroy with no check in their power.

That's creepy as hell and I was livid when it happened to good presidents. We should be intellectually consistent and oppose such destruction, even to Trump.

Maaattcast

(18 posts)
90. Agree in principle, but context is important
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 09:18 AM
Feb 2017

I agree that in general having unelected intelligence agents/agencies sabotage our elected officials is not a good thing and is destructive to the fabric of our country. However... this is a HIGHLY unusual circumstance, in essence the agents and officials leaking information to the press are acting as whistleblowers for the country. Yes they happen to come from intelligence agencies, but that's because of the nature of the activity/crime Trump and his associates are accused of; collusion with intelligence operatives of an adversarial foreign power in a bid to have that foreign enemy aid in their election by using its clandestine services to violate US law and hack into the computer systems of their opponents and weaponize the information they obtain by selectively leaking it at opportune times, among other illicit activity (such as the misinformation campaign), in exchange for adjusting US policy to be more favorable to said adversary in most major areas of concern.

Seeing as the "crime" or activity that's alleged directly relates to the mission of US intelligence agencies, whistleblowing would have to come from these intelligence agencies. If Donald was alleged to be telling the EPA not to enforce the clean air act at all, we'd expect whistleblowers at that agency to step forward and leak to the press what was going on, it's the same thing here, only because it's intel agencies is it that some may feel uncomfortable about it.

So while I agree with you that intelligence agencies trying to bring down elected officials is usually very corrosive and destructive to our country, I think having our country's elected leadership colluding with foreign enemies running a campaign to discredit American democracy is worse.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
95. I'm old enough to remember
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 11:50 AM
Feb 2017

The CIA of the 1960s. They are no ones friend but their own. Very corrosive to use your word.

And the enemy of an enemy is still an enemy no matter what Mohammed said.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
87. I'm envisioning the CIA showing Drumpf the Film that was taken FROM the Grassy Knoll
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 08:09 AM
Feb 2017

You know, the one they've shown to every President since, on his first day after inauguration ... the one where they look at him intently afterwards and say 'any questions?'

And Drumpf (who I envision looking like Baldwin on SNL, with the pursed lips and clueless expression ... but with WAY smaller hands) replying to the CIA guys after a few seconds, saying "What is this? This is a boring film ... so ... what, there's a junky old limo, what is that, a Cadillac? I'd never ride in a Cadillac. And some guy is riding in the back and he gets ... what ... shot in the head? And it looks like some very old brunette woman tries to shove his brains back into his head? Is that the plot of this? She's maybe a 6, no better than a 6 and a half ... and the photography is terrible. Who's the director? Remind me to never watch a film of his ... unless he pays me ... are we done?"

Maeve

(42,288 posts)
91. Promises, promises
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 10:01 AM
Feb 2017

We've been down this road too damn many times. I'll believe it when it starts coming out, not before.

lostnfound

(16,189 posts)
92. we can dream.. and we can start a habit of shouting "Lock him up!" at every opportunity
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 10:19 AM
Feb 2017

that ought to unnerve a man who is used to the luxury lifestyle

mn9driver

(4,428 posts)
93. I've lost track of the number of times something great was just about to happen.
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 10:35 AM
Feb 2017

Until something actually does happen, I will assume it is just more of the same.

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