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brooklynite

(94,745 posts)
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 11:06 AM Feb 2017

Santa Cruz and federal agents in war of words over whether a gang sweep was really a secret immigrat

Source: Los Angeles Times

Santa Cruz and federal agents in war of words over whether a gang sweep was really a secret immigration raid

A northern California raid ostensibly targeting violent gang members triggered a dispute Thursday, with Santa Cruz’s police chief angrily accusing the Homeland Security Department of turning it into a secret immigration sweep.

Chief Kevin Vogel accused Homeland Security officials of lying about the scope of the raids conducted jointly between his department and federal agents this month aimed at apprehending MS-13 gang members.

“The Department of Homeland Security, unbeknownst to us at the Santa Cruz Police Department, had acted outside the scope of this operation and had detained and removed a number of individuals from locations based upon their immigration status,” Vogel said at a news conference. “The community has an absolute right to be angry over this. This has violated the trust of the community, and we cannot tell you how disappointed we are by the betrayal of the Department of Homeland Security.”

Federal officials denied that they acted to deceive local authorities, and said police knew others besides the gang members would be held briefly to ascertain their identities and histories. The department said it detained 10 gang members and 11 others for immigration violations. All but one of those detained for the immigration violations were released, federal officials said.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-santa-cruz-ice-raid-20170223-story.html



(nb - this was posted at 12:20 AM Eastern time and is within the 12-hour window)

This was apparently the incident my relative reported last week: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028650100

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Santa Cruz and federal agents in war of words over whether a gang sweep was really a secret immigrat (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2017 OP
This is more significant than it seems bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #1
Exactly, this isn't a territorial pissing contest. DK504 Feb 2017 #2
Indeed nycbos Feb 2017 #3
Yes, very interesting. Local police needing to protect Hortensis Feb 2017 #4
Republicans have federal thugs abusing people and lying to locals IronLionZion Feb 2017 #5

bucolic_frolic

(43,313 posts)
1. This is more significant than it seems
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 11:22 AM
Feb 2017

Rarely rarely see a police chief buck the Feds, this is only happening
on this issue

DK504

(3,847 posts)
2. Exactly, this isn't a territorial pissing contest.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 11:32 AM
Feb 2017

This is about posse comitatus and PUKEUS making that little slip that he is creating an army to do sweeps across America. We keep running into this problem with Rethug presidents.

nycbos

(6,039 posts)
3. Indeed
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 11:40 AM
Feb 2017

If it was really a gang targeting operation there would be no issue. The local PD likely would take part in an operation. I think the overwhelming majority of the population supports going after gangs.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Yes, very interesting. Local police needing to protect
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:38 PM
Feb 2017

the local community from federal actions?

Homeland Security officers arrested or detained 10 people for their immigration status, police said. All ten have been released; five people have been given a summons to appear in immigration court and five are wearing a GPS monitor, police said.

“I’m outraged,” Santa Cruz Mayor Cynthia Chase said about the immigration enforcement. “There’s no question that this action has torn families apart.”


Wonder if the city's reaction is responsible for these people's release.

IronLionZion

(45,541 posts)
5. Republicans have federal thugs abusing people and lying to locals
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:54 PM
Feb 2017

Many of Trump's conservative anti-government voters claim to be against this sort of thing.

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