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alp227

(32,034 posts)
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 04:44 PM Jul 2012

U.S. wants Detroit-Windsor ferry service

Source: CBC

The Detroit Port Authority wants a ferry up and running to and from Windsor by spring of 2013.

The authority told CBC News it already has a new boat terminal waiting to be used by the Renaissance Center, located across the Detroit River from Windsor's downtown core.

Deputy director Steven Olinek said there is even funding lined up from Washington to buy a ferry.

"I think the fact that we've got this endorsement in the form of committed monies is something that others have not had," he said. "We still face the challenges with regard to the clearance of passengers and we're trying to find a creative solution."

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/story/2012/07/19/wdr-detroit-port-authority-ferry-service.html

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U.S. wants Detroit-Windsor ferry service (Original Post) alp227 Jul 2012 OP
Be wary, residents of Detroit... Earth_First Jul 2012 #1
Rochester-T.O.: 95 mi (154km) KamaAina Jul 2012 #2
Perhaps... Earth_First Jul 2012 #3
Yeah, it's a short jaunt across the river here Cal Carpenter Jul 2012 #6
I seriously doubt any "tourism" dollars would justify it. TahitiNut Jul 2012 #4
That will be convenient for attending the "Windsor Ballet". bluedigger Jul 2012 #5
Why would I line up for a ferry... roamer65 Jul 2012 #7
Crickets. GeorgeGist Jul 2012 #8

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
1. Be wary, residents of Detroit...
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 04:53 PM
Jul 2012

We were sold the same bill of goods by salesmen in the middle of the night on fast ferry service from Rochester > Toronto.

We were PROMISED that tourism alone would pay for it.

10 years later, an empty ferry terminal, and multiple million dollar leases are still being paid on for a ferry service that we sold to an New Zealand company for 50 cents on the dollar.

Be wary, Detroit.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
2. Rochester-T.O.: 95 mi (154km)
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:02 PM
Jul 2012

The Detroit River separating Detroit and Windsor is 2.5 miles wide at its widest point. That puts this more in line with the ferries across the Hudson from NYC to NJ, or those across the Mississippi in New Orleans. Much more feasible.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
3. Perhaps...
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:10 PM
Jul 2012

I certainly hope that this isn't a scam to line the pockets of the developers creating this 'opportunity' as we've seen to no always be the case.

Good luck, Detroit.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
6. Yeah, it's a short jaunt across the river here
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 06:58 PM
Jul 2012

And I would agree with Tahiti Nut that it would likely be a lot of actual commuters most of the time.

I could also see some use for getting to the casinos or weekend nights on the town. That's probably the main tourism draw between Detroit and Windsor - a change of scene for the locals and suburbanites. In both cities most casinos and a lot of nightlife are close to where this boat terminal is.

Detroit's riverfront has changed for the better in the last few years. In this case the terminal is already there. My first instinct at the headline was 'cool!'.

I would need to know more about what is behind this (and I am too lazy/distracted to research at the moment, LOL) before having a real strong opinion - goodness knows Detroit is being bought cheap and nasty in some ways right now by developers and others with pure profit motive, so I am skeptical of just about everything (eg the new bridge).

But there may be some logic to doing this, aside from some private profit situation.

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
4. I seriously doubt any "tourism" dollars would justify it.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:30 PM
Jul 2012

It seems to me the prevalent use would be for Windsor residents working in Detroit, of whom there are plenty. The success of such a ferry would hinge on connecting shuttle service to the DMC, WSU, Ford Hospital, and other employment "magnets." Nurses and college personnel (staff and students) are two of the target demographics, I'd guess. (Yes, I dated a nurse living in Windsor and working in Detroit once upon a time.) The cost of the ferry and shuttle would have to be competitive with tunnel/bridge fees and parking/gas. The problem, as I see it, is that there's no symmetry ... Detroit residents working in Windsor.

"Tourism" just doesn't hack it. I can't envision the ferry being an automobile ferry (a la Seattle) since the tunnel and bridges (Ambassador and Port Huron) are quite adequate other than during rush hours. A passenger ferry service for "tourists" would be ridiculous, since neither Detroit nor Windsor have a pedestrian-friendly ecology ... either in geographic compactness or weather. Thus, neither are pedestrian "destinations" like NYC, Chicago, or San Francisco ... it's about as silly to think of pedestrian tourism in Detroit/Windsor as it would be in Los Angeles.

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