Another jaguar discovery in Southern Arizona adds to border-wall debate
Source: Arizona Daily Star
By Tony Davis Arizona Daily Star Mar 2, 2017 Updated 2 hrs ago
The discovery of a jaguar in the Dos Cabezas Mountains near Willcox marks the third time since 2015 a new one has been photographed in Arizona, and the seventh time the elusive cat species has been documented in Arizona or New Mexico in the last 21 years.
But this new addition to the regions known jaguars, disclosed Thursday, does little to quell the longstanding dispute between state and federal biologists and conservationists over their significance in Arizona. The discovery has also amplified environmentalist concerns about President Trumps plans to build a fence or wall spanning the entire U.S.-Mexican border.
The jaguar was photographed in the mountain range near Willcox in November by a trail camera run by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management. But the photos existence wasnt discovered until recently, the Game and Fish Department said in announcing the jaguar finding.
Game and Fish said five biologists have determined this jaguar was a different animal from one photographed in December 2016 and January 2017 in the Huachuca Mountains, and one photographed from 2011 to 2015 in the Whetstone and Santa Rita mountains.
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lastlib
(23,271 posts)* Several years ago, we had a mountain lion in my pasture, less than 300 feet from my house. It sat down out there, and I got a video recording of it. Later showed the video to a state conservation agent, who really didn't want to investigate it, so he declared it to be a dog. Idjit--I saw it CLEARLY! It had a feline snout, a feline body, a feline tail, it walked like a cat, sat like a cat--it was a f*ckin' CAT!
But since he didn't want to be bothered to look into it,--meh, it's a dog....
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Mountain lions have been reported for decades, the "experts" denied it, til one was hit by a car. Can't deny it anymore. The same will happen with Bigfoot some day.
StarryNite
(9,459 posts)would screw up the migration of wildlife including the beautiful jaguars. I hope his trophy hunting sons don't get wind of the sightings.
Judi Lynn
(160,598 posts)Devil Child
(2,728 posts)I'm sure Trump will twist this into another tale of predators from South of the border to further his agenda.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,335 posts)iluvtennis
(19,868 posts)Kali
(55,019 posts)I have a kooky neighbor who swears he saw two of them on our place (and a lot of other bizarre things)
maybe he was right!
Metsie Casey
(208 posts)They have the power. Beautiful cats.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Maybe they can, but why should they have to? They already face human created barriers, we don't need to add additional ones that serve no purpose except drain taxpayer money into *45's construction company accomplices.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Cheetahs in fenced game preserves thrive because they figured out how to use the fences to hunt. They drive their prey into the fence. I imagine that a jag could use the height of the wall to spot and attack non climbing prey like peccary.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)I don't imagine that there would be any nice surface at the top of a security wall...
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)I am not under the impression that razor ribbon is used very much on the existing border fence, but I certainly could be wrong.
http://www.businessinsider.com/somebody-tried-to-drive-over-the-us-mexico-border-fence-2012-11
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)It's all about keeping out those bad hombres... At least that is what we would be billed for, what would actually be there is entirely another thing.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)That would have prevented this......
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028744307
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)The current walls, such as they exist, are nothing in comparison to what Trump wants to build. You are comparing apples to bowling balls.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Especially when linked in DU threads
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)You seem to be off topic...
Must be kind of hard to never refer to the future, always stuck in the past, never venturing beyond the present...
LuvLoogie
(7,021 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)Big cats, and their habitat, need to be protected and preserved.
IronLionZion
(45,514 posts)to feed and move on to greener pastures. It's what animals do. The wall disrupts natural ecosystems.
Paladin
(28,271 posts)AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)They are bringing claws. They are bringing teeth. And some, presumably, are good cats.