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alp227

(32,032 posts)
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 09:01 AM Jan 2012

After 40-Year Battle, Train May Roll for Oahu

From the farmlands here on the western side of Oahu, the hotels of Honolulu and the bluffs of Diamond Head can be seen rising 20 miles in the distance. This is rural Hawaii: waves and coastline on one side, lush mountains on the other and barely a building or vehicle in sight.

But sometime this spring, a $5.3 billion project is scheduled to rise from the Kapolei farmlands that offers powerful evidence of how much this island, a symbol of Pacific tranquillity, is changing. A 40-year battle to build a mass transit line appears to be nearing its end. Barring a court intervention, construction is to begin in March on a 20-mile rail line that will be elevated 40 feet in the air, barreling over farmland, commercial districts and parts of downtown Honolulu, and stretching from here to Waikiki.

The two-track line —a 30-foot-wide span, with 21 elevated stations — is designed to accommodate an increasing crush of commuters and tourists while encouraging new growth and development, particularly on this undeveloped part of the island. The Honolulu rail project, scheduled for completion in 2018, seems certain to change sharply the nature of much of the south side of the island, as well as downtown Honolulu.

The project has drawn fierce opposition from many environmentalists and some community leaders, who describe it as a concrete gash across green Oahu that will blight pristine coastlines and farmland at the western end and throw a shadow over city streets in Honolulu. It could still be delayed or frozen by a pending suit in federal court from opponents who assert that planners failed to properly explore alternatives to the project in environmental studies.

full: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/04/us/hawaii-train-line-is-likely-to-rise-on-oahu.html

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After 40-Year Battle, Train May Roll for Oahu (Original Post) alp227 Jan 2012 OP
Disgusting. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #1
What the hell??? RC Jan 2012 #2
I never have been to hawaii but what exactly is the problem with this rail system? cstanleytech Jan 2012 #3
I live there for 4 years itsrobert Jan 2012 #5
. AngryAmish Jan 2012 #4
What's opihimoimoi say? Octafish Jan 2012 #6
I've only been there a few times. I have to say, I hated the traffic. HATED it. MADem Jan 2012 #7
Ok, author of said article, hear me now. Never use the word gash. truthisfreedom Jan 2012 #8
NIMBY? JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2012 #9
How many wealthy neighborhoods will fall to the bulldozer....? Evasporque Jan 2012 #10
 

RC

(25,592 posts)
2. What the hell???
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 10:27 AM
Jan 2012

Maybe, maybe if they keep this between Honolulu and Wahiawa, then stop? There is no real traffic beyond Wahiawa anyway.
Leave the North Shore and Waialua out of this.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
3. I never have been to hawaii but what exactly is the problem with this rail system?
Reply to RC (Reply #2)
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 10:54 AM
Jan 2012

I thought it was better to encourage the use of mass transit both to reduce the usage of cars on the road and to save gas not to mention headaches due to traffic on the roads?

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
5. I live there for 4 years
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 11:10 AM
Jan 2012

Traffic is heavy in and near downtown Honolulu on the H-1 to and from Pearl City. A rail system concentrated in these areas would be very good to reduce congestion.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. I've only been there a few times. I have to say, I hated the traffic. HATED it.
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 02:53 AM
Jan 2012

I used rental cars a couple of times, and public buses other times. I wasn't a tourist, I was working, so I didn't get to do too much of the "fun" stuff that tourists do. I do think some sort of rail would help move people around, just not clear how much rail is needed, how far out it needs to go, or if they should look into trying to put at least some of it underground, instead of up in the air (ugly, IMO). That's something that will need to be resolved by residents, I should think.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
8. Ok, author of said article, hear me now. Never use the word gash.
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 06:38 AM
Jan 2012

You shall not use the word gash to describe anything in a negative way.

Find another word.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
9. NIMBY?
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 02:23 PM
Jan 2012

Ted Kennedy said much the same thing about windmills that would blight his view.

I have a feeling that the view FROM the train would be pretty nice. Not so much if they push it under ground.

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