Schwarzenegger for Senate?
Source: Politico
SAN FRANCISCO Former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger the Terminator" action hero who made "I'll be back" one of filmdom's most iconic phrases may be mulling a political comeback, according to several GOP political insiders in California.
The prospect of Schwarzeneggers return to elected politics in a 2018 U.S. Senate run possibly as an independent is generating increasing buzz in state Republican circles, fueled by the former governors seeming ability to get under the skin of President Donald Trump on social media.
The presidents caustic tweets about Schwarzenegger, the recent host of "Celebrity Apprentice," and their running feud has sparked talk that the intensely competitive Schwarzenegger a seven-time Mr. Olympia world bodybuilding champ may be interested in more than merely a verbal posedown with Trump.
His entry into the 2018 Senate race when Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein would be 85 years old and up for reelection would give Arnold the stage to jam Trump for the next 16 months, according to one veteran GOP strategist who spoke on condition of anonymity.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/arnold-schwarzenegger-senate-235905
Blanks
(4,835 posts)Al Franken became somewhat of a political commentator before he ran, so it's ok, I suppose.
I prefer lawmakers come from a legal background, but that's just me.
brooklynite
(94,735 posts)tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)Fucking spare me.
reggaehead
(269 posts)Something stupid had him in love with the Thugs. That said, he was hampered by the Chimp recession. I live in Santa Cruz. Vote blue religiously. If the choice is Independent Arnold vs 85 year old Frankenstein. I will vote for Independent Arnold. Frankenstein votes against me at least half the time. I miss Barbara Boxer.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)But I suspect the people in California will elect a democrat, if they didnt it would be really stupid.
reggaehead
(269 posts)But, if he were running against 85 year old Frankenstein
keithbvadu2
(36,917 posts)Dubya had experience as a gov and he led America into 9-11 with his incompetence.
Dubya's 'experience' also left our country's economy in ruins.
MissMillie
(38,580 posts)but most of America doesn't know that.
keithbvadu2
(36,917 posts)ffr
(22,671 posts)He toted a lot of republican water during his. Screw that!
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)he would probably be a better choice than most of the other nutjobs the Repugnants have been putting into office.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)I agree with you about celebrities staying out of politics. Unfortunately, the reason they are often elected is simply the ability to perform on camera, with dump the prime example.
Franken did, however, have a degree in mathematics from Harvard, I believe. So, he had a demonstrably first-rate mind and the capacity to learn and perform at a high level.
Schwarzenegger was an eff-up as governor. Hope he doesn't run or, if he does, that California voters have the sense this time to say no.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,048 posts)Yavin4
(35,446 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,048 posts)Yavin4
(35,446 posts)Much like Weiner lost in the Dem primary. So, yeah, Republicans can be cheating scumbags and get nominated, but Dems won't even nominate one of their own.
No Vested Interest
(5,167 posts)She will be 85; how old will Schwarzennegger be in 2018?
Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)calimary
(81,487 posts)Don't be fooled. It would increase the GOP Senate count by one.
Just what we need...
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)He ran in an extremely short campaign, in which his refusal to participate in debates (unless the questions were submitted ahead of time) didn't hurt him. I have serious doubts about his ability to run a full-length campaign.
brooklynite
(94,735 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)There were 135 candidates running to be the replacement governor. Because of what Schwarzenegger does for a living his name is known to all. On Wikipedia you can find the Orange County ballot...Schwarzenegger is near the top of the list, and Cruz Bustamante is second from the bottom. I wonder...how many people, when handed this disaster of a ballot, just filled in the box for the first name they recognized?
diva77
(7,656 posts)10/2003 California
In a notable aberration in the 2003 California recall-election vote totals in the 17
California counties that used Diebold, several minor candidates recorded widely
disproportionate vote totals.
The Porterville Recorder; June 10, 2004
packman
(16,296 posts)However, maybe Don can kick him out of the country - "I'll be back" Arnold
tinrobot
(10,916 posts)Seems like he's more interested in one-upping someone else who also starred on "The Apprentice" than he is about issues.
I'd much rather have a Senator who works for the people rather than improving his "brand."
Submariner
(12,509 posts)Cheney was drawing up maps to parcel out oil drilling areas for the oil companies.
If I remember correctly, Arnie also gave ENRON a break when they screwed the California rate payers and Arnie forgave $9 Billion ENRON owed California. Why do you think CA was in debt so long. Arnie fucked up bigtime.
Who in their right mind would vote for this incompetent dick head? Are you f*cking crazy?
jehop61
(1,735 posts)forgotten his maid's love child and betrayal of his family? A Kennedy at that! For the many reports of him doing a Trump and molesting women on his sets? Or the fact he screwed up state government?
Bengus81
(6,932 posts)Nothing has changed with that asshole,him and Trump are cut from the same cloth. Plus...I don't buy this big "fight" between him and Trump for a second. Sounds like it's right out of an all star wrestling script.
NBachers
(17,137 posts)I think their "rivalry" is just posturing for entertainment value. Schwarzenegger's experience as Governor gives him a track record with Republican voters and independents. He could get elected if we didn't have a strong enough Democratic candidate.
If Feinstein is indeed leaving after this current cycle, she should coordinate with the California Democratic Party to have a strong Democratic candidate ready to go in the 2018 elections.
Anyone have any ideas who'd be a strong candidate? I love Amanda Renteria, but she lost in her district to a Republican in 2014. She's been doing important stuff since then, but I'm not sure of her electability.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)Eric Garcetti?
NBachers
(17,137 posts)I've voted for Newsom as San Francisco mayor, but I've always been lukewarm towards him. He's growing on me slightly as he matures politically. And, of course, Garcetti's going to be looked at as well. I like the guy, but I don't know if I can move him from my "LA Political Strongman" image to a Senatorial candidate with statewide support.
Newsom could probably continue to mature and improve in the Senate, and he certainly projects a good image as an up & comer. He'd attract his share of buzz, as always.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,214 posts)and stepping stones to the Presidency. Either would work for him.
diva77
(7,656 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)Love her, but it's a big jump from House to Senate at that age - she's been in The House since 1991?
diva77
(7,656 posts)madville
(7,412 posts)Newsom's past would neutralize Arnold's past marital infidelity as a negative since he had his own cheating scandal while mayor of San Fransisco. Other than that I think he would be a good choice.
The danger is Newsom and Arnold splitting the moderate vote and a Republican slipping in with 40% of the vote or something like that. Does California have run-offs if nobody gets a majority?
diva77
(7,656 posts)He is incompetent, and destructive - he tripled CA debt which helped "justify" his attempt to sell off sacred public lands such as the Orange County Fairgrounds.
an example of what was written about him when he left office:
How Arnold Schwarzenegger Turned Into California's Worst Nightmare
By John Amato 5/20/11
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/how-arnold-schwarzenegger-turned-califo
snip...The extra cuts the governor made Tuesday -- $489 million -- took nearly $80 million that pays for workers who help abused and neglected children; $50 million from Healthy Families, which provides healthcare to children in low-income families; $50 million from services for developmentally delayed children under age 3; $16 million from domestic-violence programs; and $6.3 million from services for the elderly. Among other reductions was $6.2 million more from parks, which could result in the closure of 100, rather than 50, of California's 279 state parks...snip
ffr
(22,671 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Imagine the one-up-manship that would generate!
not fooled
(5,801 posts)and of course all brought to you by "The Party of Family Values"
lunatica
(53,410 posts)They all wish they could just grab some themselves and get away with it. But evidently on the Real Men can do it without paying a price.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)when he left office...so, I don't see him as realistic.
If DiFi steps down, I would love to see Gavin Newsom run for her seat
SpankMe
(2,966 posts)He's a fiscal conservative, and not much else. He would be considered a liberal - not moderate - Republican. (He believes in climate change, is pro-choice, is pro marriage equality, has his offices in Santa Monica - second in liberalness only to West Hollywood - and loves it in Santa Monica.) How he can call himself an R is beyond me.
But, whether he would run as an R or an I caucusing with the R's, it would still up the non-D Senate count, which is bad.
diva77
(7,656 posts)Jerry Brown's Tough-Love California Miracle
The 75-year-old governor rescued the Golden State from financial ruin - and is reshaping a national progressive agenda
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/jerry-browns-tough-love-miracle-20130829
snip...The California that Brown inherited on his return to office appeared to be an insolvent, ungovernable mess. California's finances have been out of wack since the late 1970s, when right-wing, anti-tax activists passed Prop 13, a constitutional cap on property taxes that also requires a two-thirds supermajority vote to raise any tax through the state legislature. Moreover, it was a Republican, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who hastened the recent fiscal calamity by slashing California's vehicle license fee. Promising to cut the "car tax" keyed Schwarzenegger's victory over the hapless Democrat Gray Davis in the recall election of 2003. But it also blew a $4 billion annual hole in the budget that Schwarzenegger simply papered over with bond debt...snip
Doreen
(11,686 posts)He screwed California up he does not need to continue screwing things up even more.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Yes, you did a small handful of good things as governor and yes, you seem to have become more liberal over time (thanks, I think, to Maria), but we *don't* want another reTHUG-friendly senator in Congress. Go back to lifting weights or whatever it is you've been doing lately and stay out of California politics.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)And it is always the wrong people. OK then, let's bring Obama back as a Supreme Court Justice. That I could embrace.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)And also he vetoed industrial hemp growing many times.
Fuck this asshole.
Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)Even though he's trying to "distance himself" he fucked up too much.
Unless he came out and says he's for all those things now (yeah right I doubt it) then he can just stay out of it... stick to acting.
denbot
(9,901 posts)If that asshole wants to run he'd better relocate to Arizona, he's done here in California.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)This won't be any lock for him, people will remember what a disaster he was as Gov
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)If he runs as independent to spit the D vote with the proven to work 'divide D party tactic', Republicans will 'win' again.
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)I Love the D senator, and she is loved in California but the D party better start now because she is in her 80s.
Republican party will treat her/attack her- very similar to the way they treated Hillary. They'll mock her age, her gender, her health. They'll have the D party fighting over who is running during a year of campaigning.
A year where the Republican can devote 100% of his time to attacking a busy at work sitting Senator.
Our D party has to work MUCH HARDER at protecting sitting Senators from the massive distraction of the Republicans attack Juggernaut.
FakeNoose
(32,767 posts)Just sayin'
But I don't live in California.
keithbvadu2
(36,917 posts)A congressman from Utah, I think.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)OnDoutside
(19,972 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,386 posts)kimbutgar
(21,195 posts)But people remember how Arnold messed up California. He won't have a chance. We have some good Democratic people waiting in the wings to replace her.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)dug the state a huge financial hole, knocked up the maid of he and wife's home, and was almost as stupid and arrogant as the POTUS.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)MissMillie
(38,580 posts)the Gropanator will have no chance.
I hope.
I have no doubt that the country will be in dis-array. I just have no confidence that the electorate will recognize it.
Greybnk48
(10,176 posts)I've disliked him since his snarky, misogynistic campaign against Arianna Huffington in 2003.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)He was a terrible governor from the moment he spoke of kicking nurses' butts to the moment he left.
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jan/25/local/la-me-arnold-union25-2010jan25
Schwarzenegger's proposals would cut the size of the union workforce, reduce pay, shrink future pensions and roll back job protections won through collective bargaining.
Labor and the unions' Democratic allies are already girding for battle.
"It's a continuing jihad against organized labor," said Steve Maviglio, a Sacramento-based Democratic strategist. "The governor thinks public employee unions are Enemy No. 1."
Among the plans in the governor's budget: privatize prisons, which would strip members from the influential guards union; curtail seniority protections for teachers, a key union-won protection; and reduce the number of sick, disabled and elderly Californians cared for through the state's In-Home Supportive Services program -- almost all union jobs -- while cutting what their caregivers are paid.
http://www.cpf.org/go/cpf/political-action/2010-elections/firefighters-teachers-nurses-reform-winning-coalition-to-back-brown/
When Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger went after your political rights, funding stability and retirement security in 2005, working families came together in an unprecedented, unified coalition.
Over time, the coalition came to be identified with three marquee elements: firefighters, nurses and teachers.
Five years later, labor once again finds itself in the "fight of our lives." And once again, firefighter, nurses and teachers are stepping forward to help elect candidates that put the concerns of working people first, including Jerry Brown, CPF's endorsed candidate for governor.
"Our rallying cry in 2005 was 'no retreat ... no surrender,'" said CPF President Lou Paulson. "This year, we're standing together again with the same mission - protect jobs for working families, and secure the basic rights and security we've worked our careers to maintain.
There are so many talented Democrats in California who support democratic values and whose voices and legislation would empower citizens. Why support someone who is the antithesis of that?
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)There's plenty of great Dems out here. No need to try to put roses on AS.
mahina
(17,697 posts)Pass, thanks.
Nobody will treat you better than they treat their family.