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brooklynite

(94,735 posts)
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:24 PM Mar 2017

Schwarzenegger for Senate?

Source: Politico

SAN FRANCISCO — Former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger — the “Terminator" action hero who made "I'll be back" one of filmdom's most iconic phrases — may be mulling a political comeback, according to several GOP political insiders in California.

The prospect of Schwarzenegger’s return to elected politics in a 2018 U.S. Senate run — possibly as an independent — is generating increasing buzz in state Republican circles, fueled by the former governor’s seeming ability to get under the skin of President Donald Trump on social media.

The president’s caustic tweets about Schwarzenegger, the recent host of "Celebrity Apprentice," and their running feud has sparked talk that the intensely competitive Schwarzenegger — a seven-time Mr. Olympia world bodybuilding champ — may be interested in more than merely a verbal posedown with Trump.

His entry into the 2018 Senate race — when Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein would be 85 years old and up for reelection — “would give Arnold the stage to jam Trump for the next 16 months,’’ according to one veteran GOP strategist who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/arnold-schwarzenegger-senate-235905

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Schwarzenegger for Senate? (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2017 OP
I'd prefer celebrities stay out of politics... Blanks Mar 2017 #1
For better or worse, Schwarzenegger has seven years of experience as Governor. brooklynite Mar 2017 #7
Seven years being a really SHITTY governor! tenderfoot Mar 2017 #26
You are right. He was a shitty Governor reggaehead Mar 2017 #62
another Republican who was very, very,veryyy "nice & friendly" to the female housekeepers. Sunlei Mar 2017 #67
Compared to Trump or Pence or even Ryan, Ahnold is a genius and patriot. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #29
I would have a hard time trusting him reggaehead Mar 2017 #63
Dubya had experience as a gov and he led America into 9-11 with his incompetence. keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #47
The governship in TX is a very weak position MissMillie Mar 2017 #61
Yeah! They bragged it up to the max. keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #64
I didn't like him as governor and I'd prefer someone with a civic legacy. ffr Mar 2017 #14
True but if Feinstein decides to retire and if the Dems are unable to find a decent replacement cstanleytech Mar 2017 #18
In general not fooled Mar 2017 #42
Imagine if a DEMOCRAT with his sordid cheating history tried to run for office. 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2017 #2
Don't have to imagine Yavin4 Mar 2017 #50
I didn't realize his hooker scandal happened before he ran for his last office. 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2017 #54
Oh yeah. Ran for NYC Comptroller in 2013 and lost in the Dem primary. Yavin4 Mar 2017 #55
Has Sen. Feinstein announced for reelection? No Vested Interest Mar 2017 #3
71 Charles Bukowski Mar 2017 #8
Oh for the Love of God... calimary Mar 2017 #4
He lucked out in run for governor More_Cowbell Mar 2017 #5
He ran for re-election and won in 2006. brooklynite Mar 2017 #10
He had another advantage jmowreader Mar 2017 #13
Most likely more than luck - 1st widespread use of electronic voting machines in CA elections diva77 Mar 2017 #25
I guess you don't have to be a born-in-the-U.S.A. to run packman Mar 2017 #6
Seems like another ego run to me... tinrobot Mar 2017 #9
Arnold is th asshole who met with 5 deferment Cheney when Submariner Mar 2017 #11
Has anyone jehop61 Mar 2017 #12
He was called the Gropenator wayyyyy back when he was running for Gov... Bengus81 Mar 2017 #16
With this warning- What Democrats will be able to replace Feinstein and beat Arnold in California? NBachers Mar 2017 #15
Gavin Newsom NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #22
Newsom would always be the first person mentioned, but he may have his eyes on governor. NBachers Mar 2017 #23
Governor and Senator are both statewide races TexasBushwhacker Mar 2017 #36
Maxine Waters? diva77 Mar 2017 #27
she's 78 years old NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #28
I can't believe she's 78!! Wow!! diva77 Mar 2017 #31
Specifically against Arnold madville Mar 2017 #52
ABSOLUTELY NO!!!!!!!! He ran California into the ground; and with nickname the "Gropenator" No!!!!! diva77 Mar 2017 #17
I'm with Diva77! ffr Mar 2017 #20
The Gropinator versus the PussyGrabber! lunatica Mar 2017 #19
Hahaha good one not fooled Mar 2017 #43
To the GOP those are Manly Virtues! lunatica Mar 2017 #44
His popularity was pretty low NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #21
Arnie's a Democrat in Republican clothing. SpankMe Mar 2017 #24
Not true; please don't drink the koolaid!! He left CA a mess!! diva77 Mar 2017 #30
No, stick with acting somethin he is good at. Doreen Mar 2017 #32
BAD idea, Ahnold. silverweb Mar 2017 #33
OFFS - why is that some people never seem to go away? Marie Marie Mar 2017 #34
He vetoed Single Payer here in California SHRED Mar 2017 #35
Yeah, I have to echo your sentiment... fuck him Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #71
Fuck no, not ever! denbot Mar 2017 #37
More polite than I could have managed...eom Kolesar Mar 2017 #40
note that he's considering running as an independent--GOP still running from their brand yurbud Mar 2017 #38
Trump could use the help from the better actor. Sunlei Mar 2017 #39
One would think California would put up several strong Dem candidates FloridaBlues Mar 2017 #41
Republicans intend to pick off every D seat with the same tactics they used to back their trumpie. Sunlei Mar 2017 #45
Good point if he runs as independent FloridaBlues Mar 2017 #51
Republican party just floats this stuff now to make plans. They intend to shove out every D in USA. Sunlei Mar 2017 #66
IDK I'd vote for Maria Schriver over him FakeNoose Mar 2017 #46
Not native born? Some wanted him to run for President. keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #48
Not native born, thus cannot be pres. ManiacJoe Mar 2017 #57
Surely Xavier Bercerra must figure in there somewhere ? OnDoutside Mar 2017 #49
A repug.? Nope. nt Laffy Kat Mar 2017 #53
I think it's time for Feinstein to retire kimbutgar Mar 2017 #56
by far, the very worst governor the state of California has ever had. olddad56 Mar 2017 #58
Just go away, Arnold. Ugh. n/t BlueStater Mar 2017 #59
By 2018 the GOP and Trump will have run this country so far into the ground MissMillie Mar 2017 #60
Will he campaign from his "Hummah" Greybnk48 Mar 2017 #65
The enemy of your enemy isn't always your friend. By his history, he is an enemy. suffragette Mar 2017 #68
No. Starry Messenger Mar 2017 #69
Um, no. mahina Mar 2017 #70

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
1. I'd prefer celebrities stay out of politics...
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:28 PM
Mar 2017

Al Franken became somewhat of a political commentator before he ran, so it's ok, I suppose.

I prefer lawmakers come from a legal background, but that's just me.

reggaehead

(269 posts)
62. You are right. He was a shitty Governor
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 02:18 AM
Mar 2017

Something stupid had him in love with the Thugs. That said, he was hampered by the Chimp recession. I live in Santa Cruz. Vote blue religiously. If the choice is Independent Arnold vs 85 year old Frankenstein. I will vote for Independent Arnold. Frankenstein votes against me at least half the time. I miss Barbara Boxer.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
67. another Republican who was very, very,veryyy "nice & friendly" to the female housekeepers.
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 01:52 PM
Mar 2017
I bet Republicans would never let their trumpie be alone with their daughters or sons.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
29. Compared to Trump or Pence or even Ryan, Ahnold is a genius and patriot.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:47 PM
Mar 2017

But I suspect the people in California will elect a democrat, if they didnt it would be really stupid.

keithbvadu2

(36,917 posts)
47. Dubya had experience as a gov and he led America into 9-11 with his incompetence.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:40 PM
Mar 2017

Dubya had experience as a gov and he led America into 9-11 with his incompetence.

Dubya's 'experience' also left our country's economy in ruins.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
14. I didn't like him as governor and I'd prefer someone with a civic legacy.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:56 PM
Mar 2017

He toted a lot of republican water during his. Screw that!

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
18. True but if Feinstein decides to retire and if the Dems are unable to find a decent replacement
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:13 PM
Mar 2017

he would probably be a better choice than most of the other nutjobs the Repugnants have been putting into office.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
42. In general
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:55 PM
Mar 2017

I agree with you about celebrities staying out of politics. Unfortunately, the reason they are often elected is simply the ability to perform on camera, with dump the prime example.

Franken did, however, have a degree in mathematics from Harvard, I believe. So, he had a demonstrably first-rate mind and the capacity to learn and perform at a high level.

Schwarzenegger was an eff-up as governor. Hope he doesn't run or, if he does, that California voters have the sense this time to say no.

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
55. Oh yeah. Ran for NYC Comptroller in 2013 and lost in the Dem primary.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 08:19 PM
Mar 2017

Much like Weiner lost in the Dem primary. So, yeah, Republicans can be cheating scumbags and get nominated, but Dems won't even nominate one of their own.

calimary

(81,487 posts)
4. Oh for the Love of God...
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:34 PM
Mar 2017

Don't be fooled. It would increase the GOP Senate count by one.

Just what we need...

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
5. He lucked out in run for governor
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:36 PM
Mar 2017

He ran in an extremely short campaign, in which his refusal to participate in debates (unless the questions were submitted ahead of time) didn't hurt him. I have serious doubts about his ability to run a full-length campaign.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
13. He had another advantage
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:56 PM
Mar 2017

There were 135 candidates running to be the replacement governor. Because of what Schwarzenegger does for a living his name is known to all. On Wikipedia you can find the Orange County ballot...Schwarzenegger is near the top of the list, and Cruz Bustamante is second from the bottom. I wonder...how many people, when handed this disaster of a ballot, just filled in the box for the first name they recognized?

diva77

(7,656 posts)
25. Most likely more than luck - 1st widespread use of electronic voting machines in CA elections
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:39 PM
Mar 2017
http://vtvoters.org/docs/diebold-history-problems.pdf

10/2003 California
In a notable aberration in the 2003 California recall-election vote totals in the 17
California counties that used Diebold, several minor candidates recorded widely
disproportionate vote totals.
The Porterville Recorder; June 10, 2004
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
6. I guess you don't have to be a born-in-the-U.S.A. to run
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:36 PM
Mar 2017

However, maybe Don can kick him out of the country - "I'll be back" Arnold

tinrobot

(10,916 posts)
9. Seems like another ego run to me...
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:44 PM
Mar 2017

Seems like he's more interested in one-upping someone else who also starred on "The Apprentice" than he is about issues.

I'd much rather have a Senator who works for the people rather than improving his "brand."

Submariner

(12,509 posts)
11. Arnold is th asshole who met with 5 deferment Cheney when
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:50 PM
Mar 2017

Cheney was drawing up maps to parcel out oil drilling areas for the oil companies.

If I remember correctly, Arnie also gave ENRON a break when they screwed the California rate payers and Arnie forgave $9 Billion ENRON owed California. Why do you think CA was in debt so long. Arnie fucked up bigtime.

Who in their right mind would vote for this incompetent dick head? Are you f*cking crazy?

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
12. Has anyone
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:53 PM
Mar 2017

forgotten his maid's love child and betrayal of his family? A Kennedy at that! For the many reports of him doing a Trump and molesting women on his sets? Or the fact he screwed up state government?

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
16. He was called the Gropenator wayyyyy back when he was running for Gov...
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:59 PM
Mar 2017

Nothing has changed with that asshole,him and Trump are cut from the same cloth. Plus...I don't buy this big "fight" between him and Trump for a second. Sounds like it's right out of an all star wrestling script.

NBachers

(17,137 posts)
15. With this warning- What Democrats will be able to replace Feinstein and beat Arnold in California?
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:56 PM
Mar 2017

I think their "rivalry" is just posturing for entertainment value. Schwarzenegger's experience as Governor gives him a track record with Republican voters and independents. He could get elected if we didn't have a strong enough Democratic candidate.

If Feinstein is indeed leaving after this current cycle, she should coordinate with the California Democratic Party to have a strong Democratic candidate ready to go in the 2018 elections.

Anyone have any ideas who'd be a strong candidate? I love Amanda Renteria, but she lost in her district to a Republican in 2014. She's been doing important stuff since then, but I'm not sure of her electability.

NBachers

(17,137 posts)
23. Newsom would always be the first person mentioned, but he may have his eyes on governor.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:34 PM
Mar 2017

I've voted for Newsom as San Francisco mayor, but I've always been lukewarm towards him. He's growing on me slightly as he matures politically. And, of course, Garcetti's going to be looked at as well. I like the guy, but I don't know if I can move him from my "LA Political Strongman" image to a Senatorial candidate with statewide support.

Newsom could probably continue to mature and improve in the Senate, and he certainly projects a good image as an up & comer. He'd attract his share of buzz, as always.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,214 posts)
36. Governor and Senator are both statewide races
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:24 PM
Mar 2017

and stepping stones to the Presidency. Either would work for him.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
28. she's 78 years old
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:46 PM
Mar 2017

Love her, but it's a big jump from House to Senate at that age - she's been in The House since 1991?

madville

(7,412 posts)
52. Specifically against Arnold
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 07:31 PM
Mar 2017

Newsom's past would neutralize Arnold's past marital infidelity as a negative since he had his own cheating scandal while mayor of San Fransisco. Other than that I think he would be a good choice.

The danger is Newsom and Arnold splitting the moderate vote and a Republican slipping in with 40% of the vote or something like that. Does California have run-offs if nobody gets a majority?

diva77

(7,656 posts)
17. ABSOLUTELY NO!!!!!!!! He ran California into the ground; and with nickname the "Gropenator" No!!!!!
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:04 PM
Mar 2017

He is incompetent, and destructive - he tripled CA debt which helped "justify" his attempt to sell off sacred public lands such as the Orange County Fairgrounds.

an example of what was written about him when he left office:




How Arnold Schwarzenegger Turned Into California's Worst Nightmare
By John Amato 5/20/11

http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/how-arnold-schwarzenegger-turned-califo

snip...The extra cuts the governor made Tuesday -- $489 million -- took nearly $80 million that pays for workers who help abused and neglected children; $50 million from Healthy Families, which provides healthcare to children in low-income families; $50 million from services for developmentally delayed children under age 3; $16 million from domestic-violence programs; and $6.3 million from services for the elderly. Among other reductions was $6.2 million more from parks, which could result in the closure of 100, rather than 50, of California's 279 state parks...snip

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
44. To the GOP those are Manly Virtues!
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:06 PM
Mar 2017

They all wish they could just grab some themselves and get away with it. But evidently on the Real Men can do it without paying a price.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
21. His popularity was pretty low
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:24 PM
Mar 2017

when he left office...so, I don't see him as realistic.

If DiFi steps down, I would love to see Gavin Newsom run for her seat

SpankMe

(2,966 posts)
24. Arnie's a Democrat in Republican clothing.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:35 PM
Mar 2017

He's a fiscal conservative, and not much else. He would be considered a liberal - not moderate - Republican. (He believes in climate change, is pro-choice, is pro marriage equality, has his offices in Santa Monica - second in liberalness only to West Hollywood - and loves it in Santa Monica.) How he can call himself an R is beyond me.

But, whether he would run as an R or an I caucusing with the R's, it would still up the non-D Senate count, which is bad.

diva77

(7,656 posts)
30. Not true; please don't drink the koolaid!! He left CA a mess!!
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:52 PM
Mar 2017

Jerry Brown's Tough-Love California Miracle

The 75-year-old governor rescued the Golden State from financial ruin - and is reshaping a national progressive agenda

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/jerry-browns-tough-love-miracle-20130829

snip...The California that Brown inherited on his return to office appeared to be an insolvent, ungovernable mess. California's finances have been out of wack since the late 1970s, when right-wing, anti-tax activists passed Prop 13, a constitutional cap on property taxes that also requires a two-thirds supermajority vote to raise any tax through the state legislature. Moreover, it was a Republican, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who hastened the recent fiscal calamity by slashing California's vehicle license fee. Promising to cut the "car tax" keyed Schwarzenegger's victory over the hapless Democrat Gray Davis in the recall election of 2003. But it also blew a $4 billion annual hole in the budget that Schwarzenegger simply papered over with bond debt...snip

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
32. No, stick with acting somethin he is good at.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:07 PM
Mar 2017

He screwed California up he does not need to continue screwing things up even more.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
33. BAD idea, Ahnold.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:16 PM
Mar 2017

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Yes, you did a small handful of good things as governor and yes, you seem to have become more liberal over time (thanks, I think, to Maria), but we *don't* want another reTHUG-friendly senator in Congress. Go back to lifting weights or whatever it is you've been doing lately and stay out of California politics.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
34. OFFS - why is that some people never seem to go away?
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:18 PM
Mar 2017

And it is always the wrong people. OK then, let's bring Obama back as a Supreme Court Justice. That I could embrace.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
35. He vetoed Single Payer here in California
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:19 PM
Mar 2017

And also he vetoed industrial hemp growing many times.

Fuck this asshole.

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
71. Yeah, I have to echo your sentiment... fuck him
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 11:11 PM
Mar 2017

Even though he's trying to "distance himself" he fucked up too much.

Unless he came out and says he's for all those things now (yeah right I doubt it) then he can just stay out of it... stick to acting.

denbot

(9,901 posts)
37. Fuck no, not ever!
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:31 PM
Mar 2017

If that asshole wants to run he'd better relocate to Arizona, he's done here in California.

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
41. One would think California would put up several strong Dem candidates
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:51 PM
Mar 2017

This won't be any lock for him, people will remember what a disaster he was as Gov

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
45. Republicans intend to pick off every D seat with the same tactics they used to back their trumpie.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:10 PM
Mar 2017

If he runs as independent to spit the D vote with the proven to work 'divide D party tactic', Republicans will 'win' again.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
66. Republican party just floats this stuff now to make plans. They intend to shove out every D in USA.
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 01:18 PM
Mar 2017

I Love the D senator, and she is loved in California but the D party better start now because she is in her 80s.

Republican party will treat her/attack her- very similar to the way they treated Hillary. They'll mock her age, her gender, her health. They'll have the D party fighting over who is running during a year of campaigning.

A year where the Republican can devote 100% of his time to attacking a busy at work sitting Senator.

Our D party has to work MUCH HARDER at protecting sitting Senators from the massive distraction of the Republicans attack Juggernaut.

kimbutgar

(21,195 posts)
56. I think it's time for Feinstein to retire
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 08:20 PM
Mar 2017

But people remember how Arnold messed up California. He won't have a chance. We have some good Democratic people waiting in the wings to replace her.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
58. by far, the very worst governor the state of California has ever had.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 09:44 PM
Mar 2017

dug the state a huge financial hole, knocked up the maid of he and wife's home, and was almost as stupid and arrogant as the POTUS.

MissMillie

(38,580 posts)
60. By 2018 the GOP and Trump will have run this country so far into the ground
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 12:51 AM
Mar 2017

the Gropanator will have no chance.


I hope.





I have no doubt that the country will be in dis-array. I just have no confidence that the electorate will recognize it.

Greybnk48

(10,176 posts)
65. Will he campaign from his "Hummah"
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 01:12 PM
Mar 2017

I've disliked him since his snarky, misogynistic campaign against Arianna Huffington in 2003.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
68. The enemy of your enemy isn't always your friend. By his history, he is an enemy.
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 02:12 PM
Mar 2017

He was a terrible governor from the moment he spoke of kicking nurses' butts to the moment he left.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jan/25/local/la-me-arnold-union25-2010jan25


Schwarzenegger's proposals would cut the size of the union workforce, reduce pay, shrink future pensions and roll back job protections won through collective bargaining.

Labor and the unions' Democratic allies are already girding for battle.

"It's a continuing jihad against organized labor," said Steve Maviglio, a Sacramento-based Democratic strategist. "The governor thinks public employee unions are Enemy No. 1."

Among the plans in the governor's budget: privatize prisons, which would strip members from the influential guards union; curtail seniority protections for teachers, a key union-won protection; and reduce the number of sick, disabled and elderly Californians cared for through the state's In-Home Supportive Services program -- almost all union jobs -- while cutting what their caregivers are paid.



http://www.cpf.org/go/cpf/political-action/2010-elections/firefighters-teachers-nurses-reform-winning-coalition-to-back-brown/

When Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger went after your political rights, funding stability and retirement security in 2005, working families came together in an unprecedented, unified coalition.
Over time, the coalition came to be identified with three marquee elements: firefighters, nurses and teachers.

Five years later, labor once again finds itself in the "fight of our lives." And once again, firefighter, nurses and teachers are stepping forward to help elect candidates that put the concerns of working people first, including Jerry Brown, CPF's endorsed candidate for governor.

"Our rallying cry in 2005 was 'no retreat ... no surrender,'" said CPF President Lou Paulson. "This year, we're standing together again with the same mission - protect jobs for working families, and secure the basic rights and security we've worked our careers to maintain.



There are so many talented Democrats in California who support democratic values and whose voices and legislation would empower citizens. Why support someone who is the antithesis of that?
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