Apparently 'unprecedented' means loss of bowl game(s) and scholarships.

If this is true it's despicable.

.. what UPenn in general and their football program in particular did is despicable. They should lose more than a bowl game, they should be out for a couple years.

It's time for universities to learn that their football programs are NOT more important than everything else.

Its despicable because it's not nearly enough.

SMU got shut down because of benefits irregularities. If PSU football doesn't get shut down its outrageous and a big F you to the victims.

It is NOT Penn State.

School of Business). Penn State U. is a state, i.e., public, school.

UPenn is an ivy school in Philly

If the football program put on hiatus for a time then there are a lot of people in State College who are going to be out a LOT of money (including the state). Not that I'm crying a river because it was this type of attitude that got the community into trouble in the first place.

Penn State is a different school.

... for correcting me, my apologies. Please direct my comments to the correct school

One is in State College PA the other is private in Philadelphia

This isn't about Sandusky at this point: It's about everyone else who covered for him. And, as the Freeh Report shows, that was a lot of the top people at Penn State.

And that's fucking unconscionable.

However, this could also be a trial balloon. The president of the NCAA was playing it extremely close to the vest when he was interviewed (I think on ESPN). Extremely close to the vest.

I'm not banking on anything being concrete until I see it. However, again, we're talking about a willful and intentional coverup of child rape by the highest ranking members in an organization.

There is no "beyond" that pale.

PB

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I went to the Penn State vs OSU game last year and
kept thinking why is this game being played and what
a terrible message it was sending about priorities. I
left in the 3rd quarter.

2012 SCHEDULE

Date Opponent / Event Location Time / Result

09/01/12 vs. Ohio University Park, Pa. 12:00 p.m. ET
09/08/12 at Virginia Charlottesville, Va. 12:00 p.m. ET
09/15/12 vs. Navy (Military Appreciation Day) University Park, Pa. 3:30 p.m. ET
09/22/12 vs. Temple University Park, Pa. TBA
09/29/12 at Illinois * Champaign, Ill. TBA
10/06/12 vs. Northwestern (Homecoming) * University Park, Pa. 12:00 p.m. ET
10/20/12 at Iowa * Iowa City, IA 8:00 p.m. ET
10/27/12 vs. Ohio State * University Park, Pa. 6:00 p.m. ET
11/03/12 at Purdue * West Lafayette, Ind. TBA
11/10/12 at Nebraska * Lincoln, Neb. TBA
11/17/12 vs. Indiana * University Park, Pa. TBA
11/24/12 vs. Wisconsin * University Park, Pa. TBA

donations to the university.
Her Heinze estate is a stone throw away

What do John Kerry and Teresa Heinz have to do with Penn State and the NCAA sanctions?

For the record, the Heinz (yes, it is spelled h e i n z) estate is nowhere near Penn State. If you are going to make cryptic statements, please at least try to get your message correct. Thank you.

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I thought they should have locked the offices and cancelled the remaining games when the news hit the air last november. Should have locked it up to preserve evidence. Had security escort all coaches and staff off the campus and filed restraining orders that day.

The university will not have a football program for the next 10 years effective immediately.

Yes there will be many losers. Its is a sad day.

... I sat in the stands and looked at the millions and millions of
dollars that was being spent on what could best be described as
wretched excess and at that point in light of the scandals at both
Ohio State and the one at Penn State I thought why in the name of
God is this game being played?

Athletic departments at major universities have become their own
worlds and something needs to be done about them.

BTW i grew up as a big time college football fan but now I see them and
corporate interests around the sport along with college basketball as being
antithetical to the mission of a university.

I doubt that the NCAA will give PSU the death penalty because in the end
it is always about the dollars.

Nicky Santoro from the movie Casino, "It was always about the dollars, always the dollars."

Football is over at Penn State...

THey will be made an example...the entire idea of athletics in college will be scrutinized...which is why there is a actual NCAA football playoff now...the "Good-Old-Boy" big college football infrastructure allowed Sandusky to abuse boys for over a decade.

They got caught and no amount of deflection to "what about the school" and "you can't punish the students" will detract from the fact that Sandusky molested dozens of young boys and the school tried to cover it up and keep things status-quo.

Expect very harsh punishment.

it is the right thing to do.
Parents can stop paying tuition that supports the university, alumni must stop making tax deductible donations also and the state should suspend support until all damages are awarded and paid in the upcoming suits not yet filed

Penn State has a pretty good Meteorology and Ag departments. I don't disagree that the sports programs need to be reigned in but to sacrifice the higher education of everyone else who may have nothing to do with any sports, is foolish. Penn State has something like 100,000 students statewide - not just out in University Park.

It's bad enough that nationwide, teabagger rethug governors like Corbett are cutting higher education and I never thought I see DUers pushing for the elimination of the same.

The local AG looked the other way in 1998. It's the whole mindset that "football is everything" that needs to change up there. Not that it matters much, but State College is a republican stronghold. Football sanctions are going to be a big business damper to the whole community. Again, this is proper punishment in my mind because it was this attitude that allowed this to fester so long.

The local Attorney is the County District Attorney. However you can refer to the Attorney General (who was Tom Corbett, now Governor) looking the other way, because he knew he would run for Governor and needed all that money from Penn State Alums and boosters.

Corbett should be indicted.

Jesus.

and not eligible for reinstatement for 20 years. USF had one student rape a woman and voluntarily shut down their basketball program and did not restart it for at least a decade.

As for the whole school or other athletic programs being shut down, that punishes innocent people and should not be done.

The people who ignored the warnings should be prosecuted for failure to turn them over to the police.

Fourteen years of covering for a guy who fucks children, just so they could protect their goddam football program.

They should lose it. Shut it down. Then blow it up.

I agree that the program needs to be penalized, but I'd rather not have a whole new round of stories where people other than the actual victims get to play the victim.

The penalties should be severe, but not so severe that the story becomes "Penn State victimized by the NCAA".

If a school dropped the ball on academics, it'd lose its accreditation.

People don't whine about that being unfair to the students when it happens, they get angry at the school for doing something stupid enough to affect thousands of people.

This is no different, except that it harms the students far, far less than that would.

Stadium that his daddy negotiated for the family.

Penn State is being victimized is the epitomy of irony. And sickening.

Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if it became a republican talking point.

that are not in love with sports in general and football in particular.

They will be punished. I think they should have a chance to easily switch to other Universities.

Only some of the athletic staff knew? Only some of the administrative staff knew?

No football players knew? No suspicions? No rumors? No warnings to fellow players?

No one would take the Roman solution seriously, but if you tear down the stadium and plow salt into the ground, it could set a good example.

It is also a community and alumni dysfunction that worships a coach and football above all else like a cult.

That cult needs to be broken.

I remember back in the '70s or maybe the '60s when Penn and Syracuse were both Independents and rivals that played each other twice a year. They were two games that gave each school a lot of TV revenue and filled the stands for both games. Penn not being happy with having to share the revenue told Syracuse they would play them twice a year but both games had to be played at Penn.

Syracuse told them to stuff it.

Maybe they'll realize that some things are more important than football.

this...

... that's a pretty spectacular example of the sort of priorities that led to it getting punished in the first place.

Anyone think football isn't king shit at say...Alabama, or Notre Dame, or USC and so many others? Basketball? Duke and NC, or Syracuse? These aren't sports at the respective schools, they're a religion. How many skeletons are buried behind stadiums across the country? If PSU should go, so should every other major university.

That would have shown acceptance of responsibility maybe lessened tomorrow's damage.

and concentrate on actual learning.

and the attorneys will suck the life blood from that school.. every last living penny.

Not defending Jerry Sandusky's horrific behavior in any way.. just saying that a shark can smell a drop of blood in the water over a mile away. An attorney can smell cash 100 miles away.

Sad ending for a wonderful school.

There will be a settlement with the victims from the criminal trial, plus maybe a few more.

Tales of Penn State's demise are greatly exaggerated.