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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:01 AM Apr 2017

Poll: 96 Percent of Trump Voters Don't Regret It

Source: The Daily Beast



According to a new poll, 96 percent of Americans who voted for President Donald Trump do not regret their vote, but Trump’s approval rating is still historically low, sitting at 42 percent. The Washington Post-ABC News poll also found that Americans are questioning his temperament and judgment, as well as his honesty and trustworthiness, which sits well below 50 percent. Bright spots for Trump include 53 percent support for the idea that he is a strong leader. Additionally, 67 percent said the Democratic Party, in its role as the opposition party, is out of touch with Americans, while 62 percent said the same about the Republican Party.

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Poll: 96 Percent of Trump Voters Don't Regret It (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2017 OP
Those who regret it deny they ever voted for him. nt Xipe Totec Apr 2017 #1
Reminds me of the '72 election... DonViejo Apr 2017 #3
and the Trump treason hearing can't come soon enough Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #5
Agree but, it took nearly three years to get the goods DonViejo Apr 2017 #8
Right, and clearly the Dems need to take the House back first Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #9
Or 2009 ck4829 Apr 2017 #17
Don't blame me I'm from MA burnbaby Apr 2017 #46
But man, they sure hated to say that. haele Apr 2017 #49
Exactly PatSeg Apr 2017 #7
The striking thing about this poll... Blanks Apr 2017 #2
So they SAY. Pubs's strong point (and tremendous flaw) Hortensis Apr 2017 #48
I don't buy this at all. What a crock. Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #4
The Kool-Aid worked and he's still serving it daily dalton99a Apr 2017 #6
it's so disgusting that the media puts out BS polls like this, normalizing him, when Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #10
Sunk cost fallacy NoodleyAppendage Apr 2017 #11
Cognitive dissonance. People are reluctant to admit to themselves KingCharlemagne Apr 2017 #12
There's no soaking the minds of the Faux-noise faithful lambchopp59 Apr 2017 #43
Even so PoorMonger Apr 2017 #13
so by year 4, he should be down to about 50% regret? Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #16
It'll still be 96% don't regret, but strangely only half Steven Maurer Apr 2017 #32
ANY POLL ON TRUMP SHOULD BE ACCOMPANIED BY THIS FACT-- HE'S A DANGEROUS PSYCHOPATH Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #14
The worst, IMO, is that 67% think we are out of touch with Americans, 5% more than Repugs are JudyM Apr 2017 #15
And I honestly doubt they ever will ck4829 Apr 2017 #18
What else would you expect from irrational people who deny evidence no matter how overwhelming? Towlie Apr 2017 #19
No real surprise considering the "news" sources Trump voters swallow. His first 100 days FailureToCommunicate Apr 2017 #20
ding ding ding ding ding lambchopp59 Apr 2017 #23
You said it so much better that I managed. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2017 #38
Not black, not female. mountain grammy Apr 2017 #21
Well, they are certainly in the minority, just as they were on election day. BigDemVoter Apr 2017 #22
His approval from his lemings will go down Doreen Apr 2017 #24
I find it hard to believe jazzcat23 Apr 2017 #50
Yeah, but the key finding of this poll is that he'd win again if the election were held again today. Yo_Mama Apr 2017 #25
That's a bogus comparison maxrandb Apr 2017 #44
Then how do you explain that the Democratic party is seen as out of touch by 67% in the poll? Yo_Mama Apr 2017 #47
Because for 40 years maxrandb May 2017 #57
Unless Trump comes out and renounces racism/bigotry/hatred, support will continue. Hoyt Apr 2017 #26
That's not really surprising. TexasBushwhacker Apr 2017 #27
That approval rating is close to the percentage of votes he got, so this makes sense. nt tblue37 Apr 2017 #28
there is no explanation for why deplorables do what they do onetexan Apr 2017 #29
They already have one Supreme Court judge radical noodle Apr 2017 #30
They're such a drag on our nation. Worse than useless. Harmful. rec, Nt Mc Mike Apr 2017 #31
Way easier... pbmus Apr 2017 #33
We can work with the 4% that does. KittyWampus Apr 2017 #34
Deplorables comprise about 35 pct of the electorate. roamer65 Apr 2017 #35
Give it time. GoCubsGo Apr 2017 #36
4 percent of half the vote is 2 percent of the electorate. In other words, a 4 point shift. StevieM Apr 2017 #37
They voted for him as a way to say "fuck you" to the rest of us geek tragedy Apr 2017 #39
thank you jesskirablue42 May 2017 #61
Yet Egnever Apr 2017 #40
Admitting error is a Cardinal Sin in ConservaTopia. HughBeaumont Apr 2017 #41
ROFLOL!! Try finding someone in Kansas who admits they voted TWICE for Brownback.... Bengus81 Apr 2017 #42
Serious Question maxrandb Apr 2017 #45
Deplorables will never admit they have made a mistake in voting for drumpf. democratisphere Apr 2017 #51
Why I don't give 2 shits for Trump voters... Historic NY Apr 2017 #52
"67 percent said the Democratic Party, ...as the opposition party, is out of touch with Americans" andym Apr 2017 #53
For starters, anti-war NCDem777 May 2017 #60
Well, the bright side is we don't have to chase some mythical WWC vote anymore Blue_Tires Apr 2017 #54
I regret that they are Americans. NewRedDawn Apr 2017 #55
These people qualify for the Darwin award onetexan Apr 2017 #56
Doubling down on supporting the Home Team. haele May 2017 #58
How about the 47% who didn't bother to vote? I bet there's some regret there. mahina May 2017 #59
And we're supposed to try and win these idiots over? Coventina May 2017 #62

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
3. Reminds me of the '72 election...
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:19 AM
Apr 2017

everyone was for Nixon and was proud to announce it, until the Watergate Hearings began revealing the depth and width of the corruption. Then, it was, "I didn't vote for that crook!"

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
8. Agree but, it took nearly three years to get the goods
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:28 AM
Apr 2017

on the Nixon cabal so, I'm guessing it will be 2019 before there's any serious action against Trump.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
17. Or 2009
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:03 AM
Apr 2017

Bush somehow 'won' the election twice and we kept hearing how Bush was doing great things and everyone opposed to him needed to sit down and shut up or be considered a traitor, but once it changed hands, nobody voted for Bush.

 

burnbaby

(685 posts)
46. Don't blame me I'm from MA
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 01:24 PM
Apr 2017

remember those bumper stickers? LOL The only state he lost was MA. and then Nixon shut down our Navy yard. I used to love to see the sailors growing up

haele

(12,660 posts)
49. But man, they sure hated to say that.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 05:30 PM
Apr 2017

To Nixon voters, it was horrible he was caught. It was horrible the press and the Congress went after him. It pissed them off that he let them down...but they couldn't admit they voted for him, because it meant they screwed up. So 3/4 of the people who voted for him told everyone they never voted, even as they were seething with rage that he was caught and had to quit.

Just like all rabid sports fans who can't admit their team is being penalized because the team cheated. It was the ref's fault...not the poor coaching or interference by the boosters, or the fact their team was cheating.

They will still be proud to their bones they voted for the con-man disrupter just to "show them" and piss the elites who are really concerned about governance right off.

Haele

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
7. Exactly
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:26 AM
Apr 2017

And I'm sure there are also those who may admit voting for him, but won't say they regret it, even though they do.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
2. The striking thing about this poll...
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:12 AM
Apr 2017

Is that if the election were held today he would beat Hillary in the popular vote.

Of course, she hasn't been campaigning and that's all he's really done.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
48. So they SAY. Pubs's strong point (and tremendous flaw)
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 05:28 PM
Apr 2017

is their loyalty and commitment to their group, uber alles as we see.

I believe that a large majority of that bravado 96% do not...really, exactly...regret voting for Rump and only 3 months into his term would vote all over again for him, but I also believe that a good third of them would have to overcome that sick, worried feeling in the middle of the night to do so. They would vote their jerseys, not him.

Small comfort in it, but saying one has confidence and actually having it are very different things. The real encouragement is in knowing that, if 10% nationally of them stayed home in 2018 and 2020 (the real danger for the GOP) and possibly some voted Democrat (as was expected in 2016 pre-Comey and the November social media blizzard), it would change everything.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
4. I don't buy this at all. What a crock.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:23 AM
Apr 2017

So the poll says "96 percent of those who supported him in November say they'd do it again today."

Which isn't exactly the same thing as not regretting, since they may regret it to some degree but still vote for him over Hillary.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
10. it's so disgusting that the media puts out BS polls like this, normalizing him, when
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:30 AM
Apr 2017

he is STILL a ignorant asswipe who is a threat to this country, and even many Republicans see this.

NoodleyAppendage

(4,619 posts)
11. Sunk cost fallacy
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:54 AM
Apr 2017

They are dug in with the hopes that he will improve to meet their intitial approval, but we all know this is "just throwing good money after bad."

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
12. Cognitive dissonance. People are reluctant to admit to themselves
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:56 AM
Apr 2017

that they made a mistake, even though a part of them now knows their vote for Trump was mistake. This dissonnce produces psychic anxiety and, in an effort to reduce that anxiety, people will reaffirm a bad choie.

Wait until Trump's tinkering with the general macroeocnomic equation leads to 25% unemployment. Then those pro-Trump numbers will collapse.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
43. There's no soaking the minds of the Faux-noise faithful
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 08:36 AM
Apr 2017

"Cognitive dissonance" that the rest of us plainly see is blind reverence to the Faux-noise faithful. To those within the cult of disbelief and ignorance towards all other information sources, which Fox has convinced them of, they are receiving daily doses of bias confirmation, cheerleading of every action of the republicans no matter how facepalmingly misguided or evil.
This is a cult that has grabbed power and is holding all our future generation's health hostage to demands to pollute and profiteer.
I've witnessed examples of how no matter how devastatingly the economy crashes, no matter how many lose their homes and livelihoods to republican party "trickle down" bullshit, they'll still tune into f*cking FOX noise from their trailer in the squalor park.
I'm not kidding. I've witnessed this exact level willful ignorance alongside the blatant racism that bemoaned doom and gloom once that black man won the presidency.
There really is something powerfully addictive to the RW media mouthpieces that very few of the addicts will admit to the self-defeating cycle.

PoorMonger

(844 posts)
13. Even so
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:57 AM
Apr 2017

These polls might be flawed to all hell, but last month a comprable poll said only 3% admit regret. So maybe he'll lose around 1% of those people a month.

Steven Maurer

(467 posts)
32. It'll still be 96% don't regret, but strangely only half
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 02:09 PM
Apr 2017

...the number of people will have voted for him the first time.

Hypocrisy and lying to themselves is a hallmark of these kinds of people. And the ones who turn away are the good ones, relatively speaking.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
15. The worst, IMO, is that 67% think we are out of touch with Americans, 5% more than Repugs are
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:00 AM
Apr 2017

and that there's a steep drop within our own party about this.

We have become too sanguine about our "superiority" to tRump and his party, as we were last Fall. If we don't stop criticizing our outreach effort and start "coming together" to fight back we will lose again. Our margin is too narrow to mess around.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
18. And I honestly doubt they ever will
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:09 AM
Apr 2017

This is clearly an application of system justification theory...

System justification theory (SJT) is a theory within social psychology that serves a psychologically palliative function. It proposes that people have several underlying needs, which vary from individual to individual, that can be satisfied by the defense and justification of the status quo, even when the system may be disadvantageous to certain people. People have epistemic, existential, and relational needs that are met by and manifest as ideological support for the prevailing structure of social, economic, and political norms. Need for order and stability, and thus resistance to change or alternatives, for example, can be a motivator for individuals to see the status quo as good, legitimate, and even desirable.

According to system justification theory, people desire not only to hold favorable attitudes about themselves (ego-justification) and the groups to which they belong (group-justification), but also to hold positive attitudes about the overarching social structure in which they are entwined and find themselves obligated to (system-justification). This system-justifying motive sometimes produces the phenomenon known as out-group favoritism, an acceptance of inferiority among low-status groups and a positive image of relatively higher status groups. Thus, the notion that individuals are simultaneously supporters and victims of the system-instilled norms is a central idea in system justification theory. Additionally, the passive ease of supporting the current structure, when compared to the potential price (material, social, psychological) of acting out against the status quo, leads to a shared environment in which the existing social, economic, and political arrangements tend to be preferred. Alternatives to the status quo tend to be disparaged, and inequality tends to perpetuate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_justification


Regret voting for Trump - And what, agree with liberals? Have sympathy for the 'other'? See American Muslims as fellow Americans? Realize that just because someone is rich and white, that doesn't mean they're qualified to be President? Think that being rich doesn't necessarily mean being successful?

No... They will go down with their ship. I think we need to focus on ourselves and others not going down with them.

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
19. What else would you expect from irrational people who deny evidence no matter how overwhelming?
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:12 AM
Apr 2017

Are we supposed to be surprised? Does this prove anything we didn't already see coming?

They could be wandering through radioactive rubble, still raving about how Trump made America great.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
20. No real surprise considering the "news" sources Trump voters swallow. His first 100 days
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:28 AM
Apr 2017

have him walking on water according to them.

AND he's STILL not black, or a woman. He's the new Orange.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
23. ding ding ding ding ding
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 12:26 PM
Apr 2017

"Cognitive dissonance" that the rest of us plainly see is blind reverence to the Faux-noise faithful. To those within the cult of disbelief and ignorance towards all other information sources, which Fox has convinced them of, they are receiving daily doses of bias confirmation, cheerleading of every action of the republicans no matter how facepalmingly misguided or evil.
This is a cult that has grabbed power and is holding all our future generation's health hostage to demands to pollute and profiteer.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
24. His approval from his lemings will go down
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 12:59 PM
Apr 2017

when they realize he is going to do the same thing to them as they voted on the rest of the country out of hate.

jazzcat23

(176 posts)
50. I find it hard to believe
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 12:32 AM
Apr 2017

that high of a percentage. But, I figure they haven't been personally harmed yet. So once that happens, things will change. He's making such a big show of the EO's he signed, yet most folks have no idea what is in them, nor does trump. It just "looks good" to them right now...looks like he's doing something he said he'd do. Even though he's really destroying the world......

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
25. Yeah, but the key finding of this poll is that he'd win again if the election were held again today.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 01:03 PM
Apr 2017

People didn't approve of Donald Trump when they voted for him. He's not the most appealing character. I am not sure how much use approval polls are in this case - when you ask about votes, he has gained since the election:


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I think it is really important for us to deal with this. We cannot assume we don't have work to do just because he has poor approval ratings. I am afraid we have retreated to the echo chamber and are hiding from reality.

If we want to do well in 2018, we need to get OUT of the echo chamber and focus hard on one race at a time, giving local interests and issues their due. If we try to make this a referendum on Trump, we're probably going to leave a lot on the table we could have picked up.

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
44. That's a bogus comparison
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 01:16 PM
Apr 2017

Of course Hillary voters are going to be a little less supportive...WE LOST.

Ask folks who bet on the Atlanta Falcon's in the Super Bowl this year if they'd "bet for them to win" if the game was played again.

A better question would be to ask; "if you could have voted for President Obama for a 3RD term, would you vote for him over Trump.

Hell, the way this administration has gone so far, I bet if you asked Clinton voters if they would vote for a "Sack-a-Hammers" over Trump, they'd pick the hammers in large numbers.

Once you lose, you lose.

That; "he'd win the election again if it were held today" line is just pure BS ReTrumplican propaganda for two very simple reasons.

FIRST - We aren't having the election again today.

SECOND - People who have had their souls crushed are much less likely to repeat the act that got their souls crushed.

That's like saying; "100 people touched a hot stove...less than 50% of them would do it again"

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
47. Then how do you explain that the Democratic party is seen as out of touch by 67% in the poll?
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 05:20 PM
Apr 2017

Worse than the Republicans, worse than Trump?

By focusing just on the Trump numbers, which are BAD, we are missing the overall story:
Only 38% of voters think Trump is in touch with people's concerns. Only 32% of voters think the Republicans are in touch with people's concerns.

And people are quoting and reading stats like that and going "Oh, boy! We've got it made. 2018 here we come! The Republicans are DOOMED."

But only 28% of voters think that the Democrats are in touch with people's concerns! The worst of the three!! In 2014 only 48% of voters thought the Dems were out of touch. In this poll. 67% thought the Dems were out of touch! We have not yet got ourselves on a stable path to success post-election.

We are not helping ourselves by trying to make 2018 a referendum on Trump at this time. People don't like him and don't approve of him - and they dislike the other players even more. We can only afford to do that after we've convinced a lot more people that we are listening to them and can help them.

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
57. Because for 40 years
Mon May 1, 2017, 01:40 PM
May 2017

The media has repeatedly described the Democratic Party as "out of touch". Started with Limbaugh and "Hate Radio" and was perpetuated by mainstream media as a way to combat the "liberal bias" canard.

Hillary and Bill Clinton, President Obama and Michelle...heck, even Jimmy Carter pretty much came from nothing, but somehow, the guy who "shits in a gold-plated toilet" is a "man of the people".

Democrats, to our detriment, also tend to speak in complete and coherent sentences. We know what "big words" mean and how to pronounce them, how could we NOT be described as "out of touch".

I too enjoy a good beer and hotdog at a baseball game, but until that stops being the standard for who we want to run the most powerful country in the world, the fucking hayseeds are going to be in charge.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
27. That's not really surprising.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 01:15 PM
Apr 2017

People are hesitant to admit they made a mistake and the bigger the mistake, the more they dig in.

You see it in customer satisfaction surveys too. Higher cost cars get higher ratings than lower cost ones. Part of it is because they are genuinely more satisfied, but part of it is because no one wants to admit that they shelled out $80K for a lemon.

onetexan

(13,043 posts)
29. there is no explanation for why deplorables do what they do
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 01:26 PM
Apr 2017

except that you can't reason with stupid.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
30. They already have one Supreme Court judge
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 01:33 PM
Apr 2017

from their vote. That's enough to keep them from regretting their vote.

Too bad our side didn't think it was important.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
35. Deplorables comprise about 35 pct of the electorate.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 02:55 PM
Apr 2017

That's how many knuckle draggers we have in this country.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
36. Give it time.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 02:56 PM
Apr 2017

The asshole was installed only a few months ago. They have yet to realize the screwing over they have been getting, and will continue to get.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
37. 4 percent of half the vote is 2 percent of the electorate. In other words, a 4 point shift.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 03:10 PM
Apr 2017

That is what Comey appears to have shifted with his actions at the end of the race. And I have been saying that for months, I didn't just make up that figure today.

Without the last-minute Comey intervention Clinton would have won by 6 points nationally, with 333 electoral votes. And that is still taking into account a late movement towards Trump.

Also, please remember that once people cast a ballot for someone they tend to double down on that action and insist that they wouldn't change their vote. It is human nature. So a 4 point shift is a restrained prediction.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
39. They voted for him as a way to say "fuck you" to the rest of us
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 04:58 PM
Apr 2017

These are not well-meaning patriots who just have honest policy differences with us.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
41. Admitting error is a Cardinal Sin in ConservaTopia.
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 06:16 AM
Apr 2017

They'll plunge steadfastly into the shockwave and radiation poisoning screaming "Make America GREAT Agaaaaaaaaaaa . . . " if it means never EVER ceding truth to "TEH LEFTITS LEEEEBTARDS".

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
42. ROFLOL!! Try finding someone in Kansas who admits they voted TWICE for Brownback....
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 07:48 AM
Apr 2017

Just like Trump loonies they've gone into hiding knowing just how bad this is already and how bad it can get.

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
45. Serious Question
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 01:18 PM
Apr 2017

If there is evidence that he colluded with Russia to influence our election, and his supporters still support him...

WHEN CAN THEY BE TRIED FOR TREASON????

andym

(5,444 posts)
53. "67 percent said the Democratic Party, ...as the opposition party, is out of touch with Americans"
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 01:37 PM
Apr 2017

Disconcerting to say the least. The question is what ways do people think the Democratic Party is out of touch?

 

NCDem777

(458 posts)
60. For starters, anti-war
Tue May 2, 2017, 12:54 AM
May 2017

In 2008 we ran on being anti-war, especially wars in the endless string of clusterfucks called the Middle East.

As soon as we won, that whole thing disappeared and we were involved in Libya, Syria, Yemen, multibillion dollar drone strikes basically everywhere. And accomplishing nothing. Just like Bush.

And instead of recognizing this, we grab the pitchforks for any Dem who seems like he/she might have questions about the necessity of our involvement. Notice how everyone got on Tulsi Gabbard's case for suggesting we get all the facts before doubling down on Syria.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
54. Well, the bright side is we don't have to chase some mythical WWC vote anymore
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 02:05 PM
Apr 2017

since we aren't getting it anyway...

haele

(12,660 posts)
58. Doubling down on supporting the Home Team.
Mon May 1, 2017, 01:58 PM
May 2017

These people live in Snow globes protected by hate and denial, not Reality. They can't admit their "dear leader" is taking them on the wrong path, just as they can't admit they don't follow their own Holy Book that supposedly gives them moral rules like "Do unto others the way you would have them do unto you" or their own f'n 10 Commandments i.e., "thou shalt not lie, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods, etc..."
They're so invested in being right, they can't deal with admitting anything is wrong. Because being wrong means losing, means having a weakness. Acknowledging the other team as "equals" means you lose. There is no Tie or mutual benefit on Planet Drumpf. So it is more important to steal a win than play fairly and potentially "lose".

It's more important to destroy the world than not be in control of it.


Haele

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
62. And we're supposed to try and win these idiots over?
Tue May 2, 2017, 09:34 AM
May 2017

Or feel sorry for them when their dear leader screws them over?

Nope. Not wasting my time or sympathy.

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