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sarisataka

(18,670 posts)
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 02:27 PM Apr 2017

Macron and Le Pen through to final round of France's presidential election, estimates suggest

Source: CNN

Polls have closed in France's bitterly divisive presidential election. Early projections suggest Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen have made it through to the second round runoff.

According to estimates from CNN affiliate BFMTV and polling company Elabe, centrist newcomer Emmanuel Macron secured 24% of the vote, with National Front leader Marine Le Pen close behind on 21.8%.

BFMTV and Elabe suggest scandal-hit conservative François Fillon and far-left wildcard Jean-Luc Mélenchon secured 19.9% and 19.3% of the vote respectively, and have been knocked out of the closely-fought race.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/23/europe/french-presidential-election-results/index.html?adkey=bn

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Macron and Le Pen through to final round of France's presidential election, estimates suggest (Original Post) sarisataka Apr 2017 OP
Wow - I didn't expect Fillon to get that close to Le Pen muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #1
Everyone's calling the results with 10 % of the vote in Yupster Apr 2017 #2
I hope Macron gives LePen an utter ass kicking. roamer65 Apr 2017 #3
In 2002, Chirac beat her trumpist father with 82% FigTree Apr 2017 #4
Second that! onetexan Apr 2017 #14
The American media is trying to sell this as the first leg of a horse race. This is utter nonsense. StevieM Apr 2017 #5
What significant is that it's more than double than what her father got in the 2nd round. nycbos Apr 2017 #7
Hopefully Le Pen gets crushed in the runoff Dopers_Greed Apr 2017 #6
Fillon has endorsed Macron muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #8
Awesome news onetexan Apr 2017 #16
I like that Fillon wasted no time to endorse Macron. The way it should be. AgadorSparticus Apr 2017 #18
Magnifique! tenorly Apr 2017 #9
Melanchon refusing to endorse anyone... brooklynite Apr 2017 #10
Let's hope the French Turbineguy Apr 2017 #11
When are the final elections to be held? (n/t) Paula Sims Apr 2017 #12
On Sunday, May 7. tenorly Apr 2017 #13
If they get it right (and do vote Macron in) onetexan Apr 2017 #15
A lot of that has to do with the press. tenorly Apr 2017 #17
I wouldn't be suprised JustAnotherGen Apr 2017 #19

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
1. Wow - I didn't expect Fillon to get that close to Le Pen
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 02:50 PM
Apr 2017

If that projection is accurate, perhaps he really did benefit from an "elect a experienced politician" move in response to that latest shooting. Fillon overtaking her is too much to hope for, I suppose.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
2. Everyone's calling the results with 10 % of the vote in
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 02:53 PM
Apr 2017

and the second and third place finishers projected to be within two points of each other.

In such an unusual election that seems to be begging to get egg on your face.

FigTree

(347 posts)
4. In 2002, Chirac beat her trumpist father with 82%
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 03:01 PM
Apr 2017

And the one-eyes neo-nazi had made about 18% in the first round.
If it doesn't stop there, in Europe, it'll stop in the streets.
Capitalists know that and they by far prefer to keep it off the streets.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
5. The American media is trying to sell this as the first leg of a horse race. This is utter nonsense.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 03:06 PM
Apr 2017

Le Pen will get 35 to 40 percent of the vote. Macron will win with 60 to 65 percent of the vote.

Two weeks is not enough time to make up all that ground, especially without a corrupt FBI setting out to rig the election for one of the candidates.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
6. Hopefully Le Pen gets crushed in the runoff
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 03:06 PM
Apr 2017

I can't see the other candidates voters going to her, but who knows?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
8. Fillon has endorsed Macron
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 04:30 PM
Apr 2017
Mr Macron served as economy minister under current President Francois Hollande. Despite his relative inexperience - he has never served as an MP - polls see him defeating Ms Le Pen in the second round.

He told the AFP news agency a "new page in French politics" was being turned as the results emerged.

Mr Macron is also likely to attract support from the political establishment.

Defeated rival François Fillon has already endorsed him.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39686993

onetexan

(13,043 posts)
16. Awesome news
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 08:25 PM
Apr 2017

Thank you for this; you've made my day . I've been very nervous all day given i'm fearful there is a wave of far right anarchists threatening the free world.

Also adding that Benoit Hamon is endorsing Macron as well. I really hope with the added endorsements they will give Le Pen the boot in the final election in May.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
18. I like that Fillon wasted no time to endorse Macron. The way it should be.
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 07:39 AM
Apr 2017

Le pen doesn't just need to lose. She needs to get an ass whipping.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
9. Magnifique!
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 04:39 PM
Apr 2017

Yes, the fascist hussy made it to the runoff and came close; but it's worth remembering the last time the FN was in a runoff - her father, Jean-Marie, in 2002 - they made practically no inroads with the electorate beyond their first-round haul.

The elder Le Pen got 17% in the first round, and all of 18% in the second.

Turbineguy

(37,345 posts)
11. Let's hope the French
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 06:45 PM
Apr 2017

halt the march of stupidity and fascism.

And give the American wingnuts something to complain about. Their ideology defeated by "cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys".

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
13. On Sunday, May 7.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 07:53 PM
Apr 2017

If history is any indication, Le Pen will be unable to extend her vote very much beyond the 21% she won tonight.

Her father, who famously made it to the runoff in 2002 with just 17% of the vote due to a crowded field on the left, got just 18% in the second round - and President Chirac (the winner) was on the ballot and very unpopular at the time.

onetexan

(13,043 posts)
15. If they get it right (and do vote Macron in)
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 08:22 PM
Apr 2017

that means there are a greater majority of smart French than there are smart Americans. Sad isn't it?

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
17. A lot of that has to do with the press.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:30 PM
Apr 2017

The French press pretty much cover the ideological spectrum; but they don't anything like the quasi-fascist, corporate backed behemoth that is Faux News.

In that, we're more like Italy - with its Berlusconi-controlled Mediaset media giant (a spinoff of the Fininvest media group Berlusconi co-founded with the fascist P-2 lodge about the same time Murdoch was making his first forays into U.S. media).

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
19. I wouldn't be suprised
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 09:54 AM
Apr 2017

But the folks who wrote 60 Million Frenchmen Can't be Wrong will definitely need to update their book!

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