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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri May 5, 2017, 09:43 AM May 2017

GOP Rep. Unaware O'Care Repeal Bill Nixes Health Care Program In His State

Source: Talking Points Memo


By CAITLIN MACNEAL Published MAY 5, 2017 8:31 AM

After admitting to CNN that he did not read the House bill to repeal and replace Obamacare, Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY) told the Buffalo News that he was unaware the bill would nix funding for a health care program in New York.

When a reporter for the Buffalo News told Collins that the American Health Care Act would eliminate funding for an optional program adopted only by New York and Minnesota called the Essential Plan, Collins replied, “Explain that to me.”

Asked again if he was aware of that funding cut, Collins told the Buffalo News, “No. But it doesn’t surprise me for you to tell me that there were two states in the nation that were taking advantage of some other waiver program and New York was one of the two states.”

The AHCA would nix the Essential Plan option, which provides New York with $3 billion annually for a program that offers benefits for low-income residents who do not qualify for Medicaid.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/chris-collins-essential-plan-unaware

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GOP Rep. Unaware O'Care Repeal Bill Nixes Health Care Program In His State (Original Post) DonViejo May 2017 OP
Hang that around his neck like an anchor dalton99a May 2017 #1
GOP reps need to be unaware they are going to be replaced by liberal Dems IronLionZion May 2017 #2
All we need to do is promise to vote and vote for whoever the democrat is on the ticket. Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #26
Lose the old lib name calling..... noneof_theabove May 2017 #32
Why would Collins care? HIS health insurance will maintain the pre-existing conditions Eyeball_Kid May 2017 #3
They are actively trying to kill millions of us. They want to. Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #27
That's a TV ad waiting to happen NewJeffCT May 2017 #4
Amazing bluestarone May 2017 #5
Welcome to DU, bluestarone! calimary May 2017 #18
I think damn few of the repubes actually read the bill Achilleaze May 2017 #6
It's almost worse if the DID read the bill and still voted for it. LakeArenal May 2017 #11
The GOP, party of the profoundly ignorant Zambero May 2017 #7
This is what happens when one confuses catchy campaign slogans with actually governing. n/t neeksgeek May 2017 #8
Everyone has to read this!!! It's way too funny ... aggiesal May 2017 #16
That's why the only thing that counts while deciding on which candidates' to vote for--- Doitnow May 2017 #25
A lot of these fuckers like him BumRushDaShow May 2017 #9
Truth is Repugs could care less. lark May 2017 #10
NONE of these asshole read the bill ! DK504 May 2017 #12
And he doesn't even consider the fact of cutting $3 billion in revenue to the state is dumb bitterross May 2017 #13
That floors me Buckeyeblue May 2017 #14
I will be at Rep Erik Paulsen MN CD03 Today at Noon! moda253 May 2017 #15
NY and MN are Democratic states with D Governor's and Assemblies. aeromanKC May 2017 #17
Welcome to DU, aeromanKC! calimary May 2017 #19
+ 1000 They_Live May 2017 #33
MN HAD a Democratic assembly. It went GOP last year NickB79 May 2017 #21
NY is only a blue state because of NYC. DeadLetterOffice May 2017 #22
Out state NY has NYC to thank then aeromanKC May 2017 #24
New York State includes New York City Progressive dog May 2017 #37
oh, i didn't know that barbtries May 2017 #20
Under Trumpcare, states like NY & Ca loose all subsidies bkz of required abortion coverage stuffmatters May 2017 #23
Thanks. Great post underpants May 2017 #29
TY. These NY/CA Reps' utter defiance & intentional harm towards constituents is mindboggling. stuffmatters May 2017 #34
Collins said he can assure us that his staff knew. Well, guess it does not matter!! riversedge May 2017 #28
Not sarcasm: this is shocking to me JDC May 2017 #30
Oh, he's aware. tenorly May 2017 #31
What a dumbshite.. wonder how his voters feel Cha May 2017 #35
GOP party over country. sarcasmo May 2017 #36

IronLionZion

(45,523 posts)
2. GOP reps need to be unaware they are going to be replaced by liberal Dems
Fri May 5, 2017, 09:50 AM
May 2017

the next election needs to destroy the GOP as we know it.

If our side could get organized

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
26. All we need to do is promise to vote and vote for whoever the democrat is on the ticket.
Fri May 5, 2017, 07:28 PM
May 2017

I am all for organization, but this is simple.

noneof_theabove

(410 posts)
32. Lose the old lib name calling.....
Fri May 5, 2017, 08:43 PM
May 2017

How about Realist Dems.

This lib/con crap is part of the problem dividing the country.

I'm in favor of:
....conservative budget, there is pork on both side of the isle.
....balanced budget, yes I can't buy something I can't pay for.
....feed hungry children at school, you bet.
....basic 3 year, associate degree at no cost, above that has a cost, this is the 2100 century, right.
....sick go to the doctor and no bill, want bigger boobies, well there's a cost for that.
....feed and house the hungry, sure and we can start with all the oxygen thieves in DC.
....term limits NO MORE McTurtles.
....no lobbyist writing legistation, we sent YOU TO WORK FOR US.
....no BIG money, corporations are made up of people but they are NOT "people".
....make up shiat, disparage others, when your are a "leader", YOUR FIRED, 1 less congress-critter until next elections will work.
....start kicking those poisoning our food in the nuts, that's why we are sick [bottom of barrel for top 30 nations].
....religious freedom, you have it and never lost it, your free to go to a different church, change TV channels, do not marry same sex, and keep your church out of my government and will guarantee to keep the government IRS out of your church [ NOTE: only applies directly to "the church" not business and commercial properties and ventures they invest in--that is taxable]
....feel free to continue.

And one more time for those that missed it.

You can not control a population that is:
...healthy -- ask Napoleon how that winter attack worked out
...well fed -- applies to healthy
...well funded -- can't by bullets when you are buying medical
...well educated -- we will call your bluff
Remove any one of the above and you control that population.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
3. Why would Collins care? HIS health insurance will maintain the pre-existing conditions
Fri May 5, 2017, 09:50 AM
May 2017

clause. He's got his. You don't get what he gets. He's special. You're not.

Are Trumpy's Fanboys gloating yet? Got rid of the Negro's Health Care program yet?

The term "fucking pigs" that refers to the GOP House members is well deserved. Fucking pigs.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
27. They are actively trying to kill millions of us. They want to.
Fri May 5, 2017, 07:29 PM
May 2017

Once we acknowledge this and react accordingly, we will be halfway there

Problem is too many of us simply cant accept that yet, it seems too outrageous and impossible to believe.

calimary

(81,451 posts)
18. Welcome to DU, bluestarone!
Fri May 5, 2017, 12:25 PM
May 2017

The idiots will be OUR tribe if they DON'T take full advantage of this, and make TONS of hay out of this and then spin that hay into gold.

They're being handed a big, bulging, deluxe, premium-level tool box to use in the next round of campaigning. If they don't take full advantage of it, THEY'RE the idiots.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
6. I think damn few of the repubes actually read the bill
Fri May 5, 2017, 10:26 AM
May 2017

They just automatically went submissive and Assumed the Position for the KGOPee, Inc. and against the citizens of these United States.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
25. That's why the only thing that counts while deciding on which candidates' to vote for---
Fri May 5, 2017, 07:16 PM
May 2017

their RECORD. Not their promises of what they may do in office, but their RECORD. Even outsiders have some kind of record of what they've been doing for 10, 15, 25, 50 years of their lives.

BumRushDaShow

(129,419 posts)
9. A lot of these fuckers like him
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:08 AM
May 2017

got elected with successive teabagger waves after the ACA was signed and due to the fabricated information about it, the unfortunate healthcare.gov website rollout fiasco, and the abject hatred for anything "Obama". However now that the benefits have kicked in, hopefully we are finally seeing the reversal of that trend.

lark

(23,155 posts)
10. Truth is Repugs could care less.
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:12 AM
May 2017

He thought healthcare is so unimportant, he didn't even bother to read the bill he voted for. He just flat didn't give a fuck, as I suspect is true for most of them. They didn't even wait for CBO scoring, because they were afraid of the truth, as always. They prefer their partisan lies, every time. They are willing to let people die just so drumpf and other 1%ers, like themselves, get more $ in their pockets. Drumpf never even once addressed the huge dichotomy between what the promised and the pittance and kick in the head he actually gave to his low income voters.

I just hope this takes effect in time that people feel the pinch in the mid-terms and vote these heinous killers out of office.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
13. And he doesn't even consider the fact of cutting $3 billion in revenue to the state is dumb
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:33 AM
May 2017

These people are so ignorant they don't even consider the jobs that are created and sustained by the addition BILLIONS of ACA dollars flowing into their states. They focus on hating the "other" and taking things away from them.

Buckeyeblue

(5,501 posts)
14. That floors me
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:40 AM
May 2017

How do you represent your constituents if you don't understand the legislation before you vote on it? It just goes to show that being in the republican club is more important than representing your district. Goddamn!

 

moda253

(615 posts)
15. I will be at Rep Erik Paulsen MN CD03 Today at Noon!
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:43 AM
May 2017

That fucker is going to hear from us today! All of them need to hear from us. Not just this clown.

aeromanKC

(3,327 posts)
17. NY and MN are Democratic states with D Governor's and Assemblies.
Fri May 5, 2017, 12:12 PM
May 2017

And Trump and his GOP Deplorable's take away their Health Insurance programs. F Trump, Ryan and their Deplorable's!!

calimary

(81,451 posts)
19. Welcome to DU, aeromanKC!
Fri May 5, 2017, 12:31 PM
May 2017

Last edited Sat May 6, 2017, 01:43 AM - Edit history (1)

I said this farther up-thread and it's well worth repeating. If our Dems DO NOT use all of this in the upcoming campaigns - THEY'RE the fools, and they don't deserve the trust of the voters.

This is a golden opportunity that presents itself with some of the most powerful and compelling talking points imaginable:

THEY just took your health care away.

THEY just took your protection away.*

THEY just threw YOU to the wolves.

(Wanna keep on voting for them?)

And according to word-masters like George Lakoff, you should NEVER EVER call it "Obamacare," because that's what the bad guys call it, in an effort to cast it - AND him - in a negative light. You reinforce that whenever you use the word "Obamacare." Now, calling it "trumpcare" on the other hand, works exactly the same way but it's helpful to our side.

AND you never talk about restrictions or regulations - the proper word to use is PROTECTIONS.

*WORDS MATTER, guys! Our team still doesn't quite get that, but I hope that's changing.

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They_Live

(3,240 posts)
33. + 1000
Fri May 5, 2017, 08:46 PM
May 2017

I've been thinking about that for quite a while. Don't use their framework. It's the "affordable care act". or was. we shall see.

NickB79

(19,258 posts)
21. MN HAD a Democratic assembly. It went GOP last year
Fri May 5, 2017, 03:04 PM
May 2017


Still have a Dem governor who is widely popular, but right now we've got Repubs in control of the MN House and Senate.

Just this week, they've been trying to restrict abortion access to poor women and allow farmers to pollute our beloved lakes and streams to the point you can't eat the fish out of them.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
22. NY is only a blue state because of NYC.
Fri May 5, 2017, 04:18 PM
May 2017

Head upstate and/or westerly and things get profoundly red, or at best fuschia...

aeromanKC

(3,327 posts)
24. Out state NY has NYC to thank then
Fri May 5, 2017, 04:53 PM
May 2017

From saving them from becoming a backward hillbilly red neck American embarrassment like other red states.

Progressive dog

(6,918 posts)
37. New York State includes New York City
Sat May 6, 2017, 08:36 AM
May 2017

We don't have city-states in the USA (which New York State is part of). Two thirds of New York's Congressional districts elected Democrats in 2016.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
23. Under Trumpcare, states like NY & Ca loose all subsidies bkz of required abortion coverage
Fri May 5, 2017, 04:30 PM
May 2017

Last edited Fri May 5, 2017, 09:18 PM - Edit history (1)

This according to Rep Reed(D-NY) a week or so ago on Chris Hayes. Reed said something to the effect that by
Ny & Ca requiring abortion coverage in policies, those states' citizens could not be not be covered by this Republican/ Trump health bill, which categorically denies coverage for abortion.

So, even tho it specifically blows up all federal support for New Yorkers & Californians , these NY (including Reed) and Ca Repug Reps voted for it anyway pretty much in lockstep. Even like Issa and Rohrbacker who are in blue turning districts.

Go figure the level of stupidity beyond the sheer cruelty of these monsters.

riversedge

(70,299 posts)
28. Collins said he can assure us that his staff knew. Well, guess it does not matter!!
Fri May 5, 2017, 07:33 PM
May 2017



....The AHCA would nix the Essential Plan option, which provides New York with $3 billion annually for a program that offers benefits for low-income residents who do not qualify for Medicaid.

Collins’ comments on the Essential Plan came after he admitted to CNN that he had not read the bill.

“I will fully admit, Wolf, I did not but I can also assure you my staff did,” Collins told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer when asked if he read the full bill. “We have to rely on our staff.”

JDC

(10,133 posts)
30. Not sarcasm: this is shocking to me
Fri May 5, 2017, 07:51 PM
May 2017

But all too believable. I saw his interview(here on DU) yesterday with CNN during which he admits that he had not read the bill, but " that is what staff is for." Well sounds like his staff is as inept as he is.

You'd think that he'd at least see if anything in this bill hurt his own backyard. I mean, my direction to staff would be comb to through this bill and tell me what happens to NY programs. Even if I planned to vote for this turd anyhow, I'd want to know. Not Chris Collins. He is not just willfully ignorant. He's truly ignorant. Again, I'm shocked. But shouldn't be.

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