to need their lumber to build some arks

If making the US more secular were a problem, God would take care of it.
If a higher minimum-wage were a problem, God would take care of it.
If equal pay for women were an undue burden on companies, God would take care of it.
If God had a grudge against LGBT-people, he would take care of it.

enough to devise a solution. These people are known as scientists -- the real deal. Not the politicians and CEOs that we see on TV playing "scientist".

God picks and chooses which problems he can take care of. Leaves the rest for reps to "solve" in his name.

CC is happening so quickly, not over tens of thousands of years.

A few well-placed lightning bolts in Washington DC should do the job! I humbly suggest you start with Congressman Walberg.

"Doesn't matter, God will take care of it."

“Can man change the entire universe? No. Why do I believe that? As a Christian, I believe that there is a creator, God, who’s much bigger than us..."

His constituents must have the education of 5th graders, I'm being generous with that since most 5th graders know they won't have clean air, water land or food. These RWNJ's are such great Christians they claim to be pro-life, but have no desire to ensure their children or grandchildren will be alive in the next 25 years.

I hereby announce that I trust god with the safety of Donald J. Trump, and thus the Secret Service is no longer needed (except for the anti-counterfeiting department, I guess).

u win <3

and in that he was right.

No winning has happened yet.

This is what you're tired of:

fml

I guess this guy didn't get the message.

Look what that did for Bobby Jindal! Being forthright and honest in the republican party is a career ender.

day for me. Pastor Tim is my Congressman. We finally have someone to challenge Louie Gohmert for dumbest person in congress. Tim is a wholly owned subsidiary of Koch PAC Americans For Their prosperity. So when he says Gawd he of course means the Kochs. He is just a reprehensible man who lies with the same proclivity of Pence. This government haters family is in the government trough for about 300K a year.

I thought everybody knew that.

From the point of view that God is omnipotent and all powerful. Faith in him means everything will work out as it should, I suppose. Just wish evangelicals would take this stance with every other issue they meddle in. Would make life much easier, lol.

God can't take care of people who make decisions about their own lifestyle and bodies?

If there is a God watching over what we do, he'd strike them dead for being so stupid.

God could fix climate change and the earth just by eliminating humans.

Odds are excellent that god will add us to that stat

Best to just get rid of us before we do more damage! I'm sure God is a pragmatic sort.

I heard (mb someone can clarify, cite the source) that the animal/plant kingdom would be able to survive on earth without humans but not vice versa?

sprink

Some humans are unaware of that and would prefer to learn the hard way.

the God of my understanding gave me the free will to fuck up the planet and experience the consequences.

Like feed the hungry, clothe the poor, heal the sick*, rebuild our cities after yet another "act of god?" Oh, right. Because humans have to intervene in all these areas where god comes up short.

* U.S. excluded

A man was trapped on his roof with the waters rising steadily.
A rescue boat came and he refused the help.
"I don't need you. God will take care of me."

The rains continued and the water continued to rise.
Another rescue boat came and he refused the help.
"I don't need you. God will take care of me."

The rains continued and the water continued to rise.
The man drowned.

When he met God he asked, "Why didn't you take care of me?"

God replied, "I sent two boats, how many chances do you need?"

Hypocrite.

The God in your favorite book tends to "take care of" things by destroying the towns where they're happening. I understand the average Christian's life is so terrible he wants to die tonight so he can go to this magical place you guys keep talking about...but the sane people don't have a death wish like you do so please, can we fix the damn problem in a way that doesn't involve everyone getting killed by your malevolent imaginary friend?

Mankind has an imperative to be good stewards of creation.

'They' make me so very ill!

These are also under God's judgment, but they're evidently deceived and too full of vain-glory to 'see'. They pass over the admonition that "the 'elect' will be judged more harshly". Which includes those so-called preachers of the 'word'. That verse doesn't apply to them, of course.

Christianity started out in its inception pretty okay, not adulterated in the manner in which it has evolved in certain circles, which shall remain nameless.

I've been witness to people who are of no 'organized' faith system who were more exemplary models of the 'Way' than some in their hypocritical 'church' of four walls.

Please don't shout me down. (Don't banish me to the Christian forum.)

Yeah ima Christ follower, altho' trying not to run into the ditch daily.

sprink

When Climate Change does even more damage, and we ask God why, he'll answer, "Well, I sent you that agreement among all the super powers on earth to stop or slow it, but you made a different choice."

The Christian religion is all about personal choice. That's what it's based on. You get salvation when you make the right choices. They say God set up so that people HAVE to make personal choices.

God helps those who help themselves.

God's answer is not always, "Let me do this for you." The answer is often to give you the opportunity or tools to resolve the problem yourself. It's then up to YOU to do it.

"As a Christian, I believe...."

Will we ever be rid of idiots like this?

And to be fair, Nicaragua didn't sign because the deal was too conservative and Syria wasn't allowed to vote because of sanctions. What more did he want her to do?

5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

if you believe "God can take care of it," then why don't you trust Him with your health care? Don't take care of yourself, just eat foods really bad for your health, don't exercise, don't see a doctor once a year, just "trust God". And why do we need police and the military unless you don't trust God? Why do you need roads paved & maintained, just "trust God", etc. :crickets:

that when you read their obituary in the newspaper it brings a smile to your face and happiness for the rest of the day.

...and the end result would be me being as stupid as Tim Walberg and those who believe as he does.

Dear Mr Walberg,

Your belief is not the same as fact. Never has been and never will be - and no amount of crying over non-existent persecution will change that fact. If your god gave you sense enough to come out of the rain, then surely said god gave you sense enough to know that faith that something is true does not make it true, and belief - no matter how sincere - isn't fact. Unless your religion requires you to dismiss fact to preserve its own existence. Does your god demand that of you? Because if your god expects that of you, then the problem is easily remedied. If you really want to save the human consciousness you call a soul, start by saving life on this planet. Start by taking responsibility. Start by actually doing good instead of harm.

You've taken your faith and belief in an unseen god and inserted it into the lives of people through the trickle-down, "invisible hand of the free-market" - then you extrapolated that belief across the board - encompassing the whole of human need - and turning those needs into a cost benefit analysis. You've exchanged your biblical prophets for the profits of your true god - money.

You dress up your philosophy of self-interest in religion and patriotism. You call it the "American way of life". You pretend your actions as a person and a lawmaker don't matter because - it can all be laid at the feet of some god. There is no easier way out to be found.

You aren't alone in this and you most certainly aren't the first. But those that came before you were wrong and you're wrong, too.

Just wanted to tell you this.

GM-PM. aka Solly Mack

We need to root out ignorance...

The fact that absolute make believe still has influence over the real lives of billions of people is tragic.

Reminds me of the joke about the flood and the guy who kept praying for God's help. A boat shows up and tell him to get aboard, but the guys says he is waiting for God's help, and that boat looks like it might sink. So a helicopter shows up and sends down a basket. "Get in the basket" says the helicopter crew. "No, God will save me" says the man who is now on top of his house and the water lapping at his feet. Soon he drowns and goes to heaven where he asks God: "Why didn't you save me, Lord? I had faith" and God says, I sent you a boat, I sent you a helicopter, what more did you want?"

Like this one are the greatest threat to freedom and modern civilization this country faces...Everything else including religious fascist in the islamic state and north Korea doesn't compare.

These people want to destroy logic, reasoning and evidence based thought.

How do these idiots get in office? And why do they run?