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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 06:22 PM Jun 2017

London attack spawns political controversy as May and Corbyn trade barbs ahead of vote

Source: Washington Post

(snip)

“Things need to change,” May said in a speech outside the prime minister’s residence at 10 Downing Street. She blamed the attack on the “evil ideology of Islamist extremism,” called for a thorough review of the nation’s counterterrorism policies and suggested she will take a much tougher line if she wins Thursday’s vote.

The speech was criticized by the opposition Labour Party as a thinly veiled jab at their far-left leader, Jeremy Corbyn, whom May has often accused of coddling anti-Western militants. May, Corbyn’s backers said, had politicized the attack.

But by evening, Corbyn had hit back with his own political response to the killing, accusing May and her Conservative allies of weakening security services through years of austerity.

“You cannot protect the public on the cheap,” Corbyn said in a speech in the northern English city of Carlisle that ended a brief pause in formal campaigning. “The police and security services must get the resources they need, not 20,000 police cuts.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/follow-up-on-london-bridge-attack/2017/06/04/5216bbb2-48c5-11e7-8de1-cec59a9bf4b1_story.html



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Looks like the campaigns have been un-suspended.
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London attack spawns political controversy as May and Corbyn trade barbs ahead of vote (Original Post) ucrdem Jun 2017 OP
May probably thought... Else You Are Mad Jun 2017 #1
Well, her 30-second announcement looked that way. ucrdem Jun 2017 #2
Exactly. Else You Are Mad Jun 2017 #3
Corbyn has been getting a lot of traction on the austerity issue ucrdem Jun 2017 #4
I noticed that too. Else You Are Mad Jun 2017 #5
Four more days ucrdem Jun 2017 #6
She shouldn't benefit.. like 9/11.. bush2 Cha Jun 2017 #8
Austerity.. like the wingers in USA Slashing Cha Jun 2017 #7
Thanks Cha! yeah that's part of it for sure. ucrdem Jun 2017 #9
Theresa Mays ratings go negative for first time, ComRes poll shows ucrdem Jun 2017 #10
Tories will miss Commons majority by 21 seats, finds latest YouGov survey ucrdem Jun 2017 #11
So who will crawl in bed with May Blue Idaho Jun 2017 #12
Today's Independent poll of polls ucrdem Jun 2017 #13
I suppose you are right... Blue Idaho Jun 2017 #14

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
1. May probably thought...
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 06:32 PM
Jun 2017

That this attack would help her sinking numbers, but realized that Corbyn still is catching up.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
2. Well, her 30-second announcement looked that way.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 06:36 PM
Jun 2017

Her slogan is "strength and stability" and that's what she was beaming. No questions either I noticed. But Britain has now had 3 conspicuous terror attacks on her watch and it's not a sure bet that she'll benefit.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
3. Exactly.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 06:46 PM
Jun 2017

She cannot blame anyone else's counter terrorism policies but her own now. Three major attacks in just over two months do not show that May has been strong against terrorism and it is her policies that she is arguing against. She maybe shooting herself on the foot by using this strategy.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
4. Corbyn has been getting a lot of traction on the austerity issue
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 06:51 PM
Jun 2017

and as comebacks go that's not bad: “The police and security services must get the resources they need, not 20,000 police cuts.”

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
5. I noticed that too.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 06:53 PM
Jun 2017

As far as responses go, that is one of the best I have heard in politics in a long time.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
8. She shouldn't benefit.. like 9/11.. bush2
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:32 PM
Jun 2017

should have been voted out in 2004.

But, NOOooooooooooooo.. the majority of the American Voters were too damn brainwashed.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
7. Austerity.. like the wingers in USA Slashing
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:28 PM
Jun 2017

Embassy Security Funding.. and then blame others when Terror Strikes.

Mahalo, ucr

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
9. Thanks Cha! yeah that's part of it for sure.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:56 PM
Jun 2017

Still 3 big attacks in 3 months is hard to fathom. Just saw this:
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"London attack: Mystery that Britain is recent target"
USA TODAY 7:47 p.m. ET June 4, 2017

The Islamic State claimed responsibility for the latest terrorist attack in London — the third strike in Britain claimed by the group since March 22 — yet there is no clear indication why the United Kingdom is the recent target.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/06/04/london-attack-mystery-britain-recent-target/102496110/#

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
10. Theresa Mays ratings go negative for first time, ComRes poll shows
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 04:23 AM
Jun 2017

Saturday 3 June 2017 17:00 BST (or about five hours before the London Bridge attack):

The Prime Minister’s personal rating has turned negative for the first time in a ComRes poll – despite the Conservative Party’s lead of 12 points remaining unchanged since last week.

While both Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party’s rating have improved, the Conservatives are up one point on 47 per cent. Labour are also up one, on 35 per cent, with the Liberal Democrats unchanged on 8 per cent and Ukip, also unchanged, on 4 per cent. The Greens have been squeezed, losing one point to stand at just 1 per cent.

Theresa May is regarded favourably by 39 per cent, down two since the last time the Favourability Index was compiled in February, but now she is regarded unfavourably by 42 per cent, a rise of 10 points. The poll comes at the end of another week of an election campaign in which Ms May has been criticised for U-turns and for shying away from exposure. This week she refused to take part in a TV debate and pulled out of interviews, sending Amber Rudd and Justine Greening to take her place.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-ratings-negative-comres-poll-first-time-labour-conservative-jeremy-corbyn-latest-a7771171.html
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recap: "now she is regarded unfavourably by 42 per cent, a rise of 10 points."


ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
11. Tories will miss Commons majority by 21 seats, finds latest YouGov survey
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 08:40 AM
Jun 2017

Monday 5 June 2017 12:10 BST

Prime Minister Theresa May is set to fall 21 seats short of a majority in the House of Commons, according to a projection by polling company YouGov.

The study showed that the Conservatives would win 305 seats, fewer than won by David Cameron and shy of the 326 needed to pass laws with a majority.

It follows a string of concerning polls for the Prime Minister, the most recent of which from ICM showed her party's lead further narrowing by one point.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-poll-latest-tories-majority-miss-seats-yougov-survey-labour-theresa-may-a7773106.html

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
13. Today's Independent poll of polls
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 09:19 AM
Jun 2017

has Tories at 44% and Lib Dems at 8% so that would probably work

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-poll-latest-tories-majority-miss-seats-yougov-survey-labour-theresa-may-a7773106.html

I don't think Saturday's attack is reflected yet in these polls though, and today Corbyn is calling for May's resignation, so it's possible that the final outcome could be different. Hard to say where this one ends up. Here's the resignation article:

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Jeremy Corbyn calls for Theresa May to resign as Prime Minister for presiding over police cuts while Home Secretary

'While Mr Corbyn said the election on Thursday was “perhaps the best opportunity” to remove the PM from her post, he also backed calls for her to resign, telling ITV: "Indeed I would, because there's been calls made by a lot of very responsible people on this who are very worried that she was at the Home Office for all this time, presided over these cuts in police numbers and is now saying that we have a problem - yes, we do have a problem, we should never have cut the police numbers."'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may-resign-prime-minister-police-cuts-london-terror-attack-election-2017-a7773286.html

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