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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:00 AM Jun 2017

Lindsey Graham: I dont think GOP can pass healthcare bill this year

Source: The Hill


BY OLIVIA BEAVERS - 06/06/17 09:39 AM EDT


Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Monday that he does not believe the Senate will pass a major healthcare bill before the end of the year.

"I don’t think there will be. I just don’t think we can put it together among ourselves,” Graham said about passing the bill this year, Bloomberg reported.

Graham's remarks come as Senate Republicans plan to meet Tuesday to discuss options to repeal and replace ObamaCare, as the Senate GOP's healthcare working group considers the details of the Senate plan.

While upper chamber leaders like Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Texas) have pressed senators to finish healthcare by the end of July, Graham and Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) have questioned healthcare can be done in 2017.  

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/336493-lindsey-graham-i-dont-think-gop-can-pass-healthcare-bill-this-year

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still_one

(92,240 posts)
2. Not only do I hope his assessment is right, I hope they are unable to do it in the next two years,
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:07 AM
Jun 2017

and 2018 sends these GOP assholes packing.

In the meantime, I hope states like California are able to successfully implement Single Payer, and unite with other states to implement clean air standards, and reduce green house emissions


 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
3. I think if they can't do it this year...
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:20 AM
Jun 2017

They won't want it to hit during the midterms. So we might be safe?

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
4. While in the other corner of the republican BS of those making over $174,000 doing exactly what?
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:36 AM
Jun 2017

Trying there damnedest to make it "appear" they are concerned, BS.

Medicare FOR ALL , let there be real competition, lets have "We the people health care plan" MEDICARE" against the f***ing for profit insurance company BS.

I pay and these senators pay if they /we are over 65, pay $150.00 a month in Medicare health insurance, that's $1800.00 a year, instead of this BS of $450.00 a month premium ($5400.00 a year), with a $6,000 deductible



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karynnj

(59,504 posts)
5. Not to mention, if they can't do it in 2017 - it's harder in 2018, an election year
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:58 AM
Jun 2017

I the chaos of everything else, I think it is important that people continue lobbying their Senators on why the healthcare bill is awful.

From many comments, the House bill itself is DOA. This means that they can not skip the reconciliation of the bill between the Houses, which means that the reconciled bill needs to pass both Houses. Even if they try to pass a different bill with 50 votes in the Senate, with Pence breaking the tie, it would not then go directly to the President.

The House bill passed by the skin of its teeth and several representatives have since whined that they did not understand what it did to pre-existing conditions. That is pretty pathetic, but so is the fact that NEITHER House has had hearings to develop a plan. In 2009, there were many many hearings in two Senate committees - HELP (Kennedy's and then Harkin's Health, education, labor and pensions) and Finance - and I think 3 House committees. Note the Republicans called THAT process - "ramming it through" and argued that there were not enough hearings. Every interim plan - in each committee - was scored by the CBO before hearings on it ended.

The question is how can the House/Senate conference create a bill that could pass both Houses - when in BOTH Houses they lose votes no matter which direction they move in. Not to mention, would the current House bill even pass the House now that the CBO scored it.

Congresses last 2 years. To get a bill to Trump, the SAME bill must pass both Houses. The House bill passed, the Senate could pass its own bill "replacing" the House legislation. However, that leads to a conference to create a consensus bill. Here's to hoping that no bill is acceptable to enough Republicans in both Houses. Not to mention, if it can't happen this year -- things get MORE political in 2018.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
6. Okay. BUT... I don't trust republiCons.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 11:20 AM
Jun 2017

We know they are working on it privately and won't let democrats help with the bill. I just don't trust anything they say.

BumRushDaShow

(129,128 posts)
8. The Senate may eventually throw their hastily put together
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 12:37 PM
Jun 2017

mess to a vote in the Senate and let it fail (at least that was the rumor) in order to get it out of the way this year as their "attempt", and then come back later and try to fix it.

But even if they did manage to pass their own version, it would have to go to the House and would be gutted. The Senate already declared the House mess DOA.

The other option they have is to go with the death by a thousand cuts strategy - e.g., eliminating the medical device tax that is a funding source and apparently has bipartisan support to get rid of, but then they would probably not replace that funding, which would result in the slow starvation of the current ACA.

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