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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:19 AM Jun 2017

Qatar row: Trump wades into Gulf stand-off

Source: BBC News


33 minutes ago

US President Donald Trump has said he was told during his recent visit to Saudi Arabia that neighbouring Qatar was funding "radical ideology".


Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, the UAE, Yemen, Libya's eastern-based government and the Maldives have all cut diplomatic and other ties with Qatar.

They accuse it of supporting terrorism in the Gulf region.

Analysts say the timing of the move, two weeks after a visit to Saudi Arabia by Mr Trump, is crucial.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40175935

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Qatar row: Trump wades into Gulf stand-off (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2017 OP
New BBC headline at link: Qatar row: Trump claims credit for isolation Eugene Jun 2017 #1
point a finger and 3 fingers point back IronLionZion Jun 2017 #2
Crap exboyfil Jun 2017 #3
Lot of Americans there IronLionZion Jun 2017 #4
11,000 just on the airbase. It's the main C&C hub for the region - and Qatar paid for it. The_jackalope Jun 2017 #15
I DESPISE the unqualified SCROTUS Trump...GAH iluvtennis Jun 2017 #5
So Trump is proud of causing trouble for the host of the largest US base in the Middle East muriel_volestrangler Jun 2017 #6
Thank you! I needed that memory jog... WePurrsevere Jun 2017 #7
Radical over there is a woman driving a car dembotoz Jun 2017 #8
They misspelled "blunders". DavidDvorkin Jun 2017 #9
The Middle East moondust Jun 2017 #10
Yep, Al Udeid Air Base Strelnikov_ Jun 2017 #11
Ummm, breaking news alert: AntiFascist Jun 2017 #12
And if Qatar were the kick the US out of that naval base, the Russians win that one too. OnDoutside Jun 2017 #13
Reply trailergold Jun 2017 #14
Trump Urges Arab Unity After Suggesting Support for Campaign Against Qatar muriel_volestrangler Jun 2017 #16
Trump's attack on Qatar left 'national security experts stunned' nitpicker Jun 2017 #17

Eugene

(61,903 posts)
1. New BBC headline at link: Qatar row: Trump claims credit for isolation
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:25 AM
Jun 2017
Qatar row: Trump claims credit for isolation

9 minutes ago Middle East

US President Donald Trump has claimed credit for the pressure being placed on Qatar by Gulf neighbours who accuse it of supporting terrorism in the region.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40175935



Trump is an arsonist.

IronLionZion

(45,460 posts)
2. point a finger and 3 fingers point back
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:26 AM
Jun 2017

Most of the countries are definitely supporting terror and think we're fooled by this diversion.

This is about the Yemeni civil war. Iran and Saudi are fighting a proxy war there. Qatar decided to continue ties with Iran and are being punished.

The US has bases and troops there and it's the headquarters of USCENTCOM. Many US operations are launched out of Qatar.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
3. Crap
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:29 AM
Jun 2017

He wants them to respond to his provocation by attacking our troops. I hope they don't take the bait.

IronLionZion

(45,460 posts)
4. Lot of Americans there
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:34 AM
Jun 2017

It's a major hub for travel between DC and the Middle East and South Asia. The flights are always full of military people and their families.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
6. So Trump is proud of causing trouble for the host of the largest US base in the Middle East
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 11:31 AM
Jun 2017

"The sprawling base 20 miles southwest of the Qatari capital of Doha is home to some 11,000 US military personnel.

The base, which boasts one of the longest runways in the Persian Gulf at 12,500 feet, is a strategically important facility that can accommodate up to 120 aircraft.

In 2016, the base was used as staging ground to fly B-52 airstrikes against ISIS targets in Iraq and Syria. Early in the Afghanistan campaign, F-16 fighters and E-8C Joint Stars reconnaissance planes that monitor ground units were based there, along with refueling tankers.
...
The Combined Air and Space Operations Center (CAOC) oversees US military air power in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq and 18 other nations, according to the Air Force."

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/05/middleeast/qatar-us-largest-base-in-mideast/

I bet the Pentagon is just delighted with Trump ...

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
7. Thank you! I needed that memory jog...
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 04:32 PM
Jun 2017

His ignorance, lack of diplomacy and ego are frightening. I'm sure the Pentagon is not at all impressed with the danger he just put our troops in.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
10. The Middle East
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 05:48 PM
Jun 2017

is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH too complex for TheRump to be "wading into" to try to score political points or for any other reason. If we're extraordinarily lucky he will sit back and do what the commanders tell him to do and shut up about it.

I have a young relative who was deployed to Qatar early this year. The reality that Trumpelthinskin is the CinC is very disturbing.

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
11. Yep, Al Udeid Air Base
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 06:01 PM
Jun 2017
"It houses both Qatari Air Force, U.S. Air Force and other Coalition personnel and assets. It is host to a forward headquarters of United States Central Command, headquarters of United States Air Forces Central Command, No. 83 Expeditionary Air Group RAF, and the 379th Air Expeditionary Wing of the USAF.

As of 2015, some 10,000 US troops were stationed at the Al Udeid Air Base."

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
12. Ummm, breaking news alert:
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 06:44 PM
Jun 2017

the diplomatic issue with Qatar was apparently spurred by a fake news story planted by the Russians in Qatari media. Agent Orange strikes again:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141792923

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
16. Trump Urges Arab Unity After Suggesting Support for Campaign Against Qatar
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 03:55 AM
Jun 2017

"Trump later spoke by phone with Saudi King Salman and stressed the need for Gulf unity, a senior White House official said.

"His (Trump's) message was that we need unity in the region to fight extremist ideology and terrorist financing. It's important that the Gulf be united for peace and security in the region," the senior official told Reuters.

U.S. officials were blindsided by Saudi Arabia's decision to sever diplomatic ties with Qatar in a coordinated move with Egypt, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates (UAE), current and former officials in Washington told Reuters. The United States was not informed of the decision until just before it was announced, the State Department said."

http://fortune.com/2017/06/07/trump-qatar-saudi-arabia/

"Unity" over what? Over keeping the GCC together, or isolating Qatar? Trump has left his lackeys out to dry again, as they struggle to justify his random ejaculations:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/jun/07/sean-spicer-defends-donald-trumps-qatar-tweets-video

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/06/donald-trump-qatar-tweets-us-diplomatic-damage

I confidently predict Trump will have made things worse within 6 hours from now.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
17. Trump's attack on Qatar left 'national security experts stunned'
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 06:05 AM
Jun 2017
http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/trump-tweets-put-nerve-center-of-isis-war-in-the-middle-of-qatar-dispute

President Trump took to Twitter Tuesday morning and attacked a country that hosts the beating heart of his quest to crush the Islamic State militant group in Iraq and Syria, leaving national security experts stunned and wondering what impact his words would have on the U.S. military's presence in the Middle East.

In the wake of a massive rift in relations between Qatar and its neighbors, Trump took to Twitter and strongly implied that Qatar was funding Islamist extremists and seemed to take credit for Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates all breaking off diplomatic relations with Doha on Monday. The nations claimed to take the action because Qatar was funding the Muslim Brotherhood and the Islamic State. Libya, Yemen and Maldives have all since joined the Gulf states.

“During my recent trip to the Middle East I stated that there can no longer be funding of Radical Ideology,” Trump tweeted. “Leaders pointed to Qatar — look!" He later tweeted that it was, "So good to see the Saudi Arabia visit with the King and 50 countries already paying off. They said they would take a hard line on funding extremism, and all reference was pointing to Qatar. Perhaps this will be the beginning of the end to the horror of terrorism!"

The comments from the president immediately raised the stakes for a major U.S. hub in the region at Al-Udeid Air Base, a central part of the U.S. air war in Iraq and Syria, and which houses 10,000 American troops and aircraft such as B-52 Stratofortresses, C-130 Hercules, KC-135 Stratotankers and E-8 JSTARS. Some worried that his taking sides could precipitate a break with Qatar and leave the U.S. looking for a new place to run the war from in a region mired in tensions.

It is hard to overstate how crucial Al-Udeid is to the coalition’s war against the Islamic State. It is the home of U.S. Central Command's forward headquarters, as well as the Combined Air Operations Center, which the Air Force has repeatedly called the “nerve center” of the air campaigns it wages in the Middle East. The CAOC provides command and control of U.S. and allied nations’ air power over 20 nations there, including Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan.

Many national security experts were shocked that Trump would weigh in on the rift, especially since only the day before Secretary of State Rex Tillerson had called on all sides to resolve the feud peacefully. In an email, Peter Singer, an analyst with the New America Foundation, blasted Trump’s decision to weigh in on the Qatar rift.
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