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inanna

(3,547 posts)
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 01:14 PM Jun 2017

WHO ranks antibiotics in a bid to counter drug resistance

Source: Reuters

Posted: Jun 06, 2017 11:58 AM ET

The World Health Organization published a new classification of antibiotics on Tuesday that aims to fight drug resistance, with penicillin-type drugs recommended as the first line of defence and others only for use when absolutely necessary.

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Drugs on the "Access" list have lower resistance potential and include the widely-used amoxicillin.

The "Watch" list includes ciprofloxacin, which is commonly prescribed for cystitis and strep throat but "not that effective", WHO Assistant Director-General for Health Systems and Innovation Marie-Paule Kieny told reporters.

In the "Reserve" category antibiotics such as colistin should be seen as a last resort. That prompts questions about how producers of such antibiotics could make money, said Suzanne Hill, WHO's Director of Essential Medicines and Health Products.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/antibiotics-essential-medicines-who-1.4147975?cmp=rss

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sandensea

(21,639 posts)
1. Antibiotics became a problem when Big Pharma began treating them as cash cows
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 01:21 PM
Jun 2017

It's certainly not what the good Dr. Fleming intended.

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
2. I have chronic bronchitis, and no longer require Z-Paks 4 times a year, we use Elecampane instead.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 01:45 PM
Jun 2017

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For the past 7 years, our family had been using this, after an army brat clued us onto it--saying the French even use it to fight anthrax.


My dosage, and my teen & adult children:

1) 30 drops 3x a day in an 8 ounce glass of water
2) 800mg 3x a day of Guaifenesin
3) Several treatments using a Vics Menthol Disc Vapor Inhaler.


We no longer need any other antibiotics for chest infections. If the kids get a chest cold, it's gone in less than 24-36 hours.

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TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
5. It sort of works out that each day of delay translates into one to two days of recovery.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 02:01 PM
Jun 2017

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If I let it get really entrenched, where stupidity kicks in and I delay treatment for a several days, it will take a week, which is about the same recovery time as a Z-Pak.


With me, if I took a Z-Pak, I needed a Z-Pak 10. Most doctors like to start with a 5-day dose, which would almost cure me. However, it would just come right back after a few days out of the medication period.


I have not encountered any resistance to Elecampane after 7 years. I want to keep the pharmaceutical options available for me, if they are needed at a later date for when some freakish infection hits.


The key is, NEVER miss a doze of either Elecampane or Guaifenesin, even if you have to set an alarm clock for 2AM or wake the kids up. The trick is to keep the mucus flowing, purge the lungs continually. Regarding the Vics treatments, I do a double-dose, twice on the first day, and then once or twice the following day. I use the same menthol disc, filling up the tiny reservoir with water twice during each treatment.


Oh, depending on the brand, which is best purchased at a health food store, it will either taste like the center part of a carrot or have a earthy taste to it.

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LOL Lib

(1,462 posts)
12. Thanks!
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 05:03 PM
Jun 2017

My aunt has copd and chronic bronchitis from years of smoking. She has the same frequent use of antibiotics like you were having. I'm hoping that I can get her to rely less on the antibiotics using your recommendations. She is also allergic to penicillin so her available choices are already limited.

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
13. My sister has COPD from being around smokers as a lounge and rock singer, never smoked herself.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:11 PM
Jun 2017

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She uses it too, when she has congestion. Her son, my nephew, uses it for his bronchitis.

Note: These are our own personal experiences, and have no defined medical substantiation, esp. for COPD.

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LOL Lib

(1,462 posts)
14. Duly noted. Thanks again!
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:40 PM
Jun 2017

I would not use this as an alternative to professional medical care. Just looking out for anything that might be beneficial to her.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
10. If you used this to fight anthrax, you'd be dead
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 03:03 PM
Jun 2017

Elecampane is a herbal distillation from flower in the aster family, not an antibiotic. It may present antimicrobial properties, but this is far different than what antibiotics do.

Also, doctors have known that antibiotics are largely useless for chronic bronchitis for years. This article is 16 years old: http://www.webmd.com/lung/copd/news/20010402/antibiotics-no-help-for-most-emphysema-chronic-bronchitis#1

"I thing the biggest surprise is going to be the use of antibiotics," says Snow, who teaches at the Medical College of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia. "It was previously our impression that all acute exacerbations of COPD had to be treated with antibiotics. But the evidence shows that bacteria in the respiratory tract aren't playing much of a role, if any at all. The only time you see any benefit -- and it is a small one -- is in the most severe exacerbations. Hopefully, this means we won't give rise to antibiotic-resistant bugs in these patients who are treated over and over again."


I'm surprised your doctor kept prescribing Z-Paks; my doctor told me no antibiotics when I had bronchitis two years ago, and said that's become standard procedure among general practitioners.

For example: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ranit-mishori-md-mhs/antibiotic-resistance_b_8599678.html

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
11. Hey, however they confused it, their recommendation for Elecampane was spot on for my issue.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 03:46 PM
Jun 2017

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They tried some other antibiotic, and that didn't work.

But, I haven't been to the doctor for this in 7 years, so who knows what changed.

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LeftInTX

(25,383 posts)
4. I can't find the list even on WHO's site
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 01:54 PM
Jun 2017

I'm glad to see Amoxicillin is on the access list, but the news release from WHO organization doesn't provide any other antibiotics on the access list.

My docs never seem to prescribe Amoxicillin for me anymore.

It seems their first antibiotic of choice is Azythromycin

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