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Duppers

(28,125 posts)
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 02:06 PM Jun 2017

GOP rep. pushes gun reciprocity for lawmakers after Alexandria shooting

Source: The Hill

June 14, 2017 - 03:41 PM EDT

Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.) said Wednesday that Congress should consider firearm reciprocity to make it easier for lawmakers to carry guns in Washington, D.C., following an attack on a congressional baseball practice that left Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) in critical condition.

Loudermilk was one of the lawmakers on the field when a gunman, identified as James Hodgkinson, began firing shots at them.

Virginia offers concealed-carry permits and allows citizens to carry firearms openly without a license. But Washington's tighter gun laws makes it more difficult for lawmakers to carry guns.



Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/337815-gop-rep-pushes-gun-reciprocity-after-alexandria-shooting



We knew this would happen:

MORE GUNS ARE THE ANSWER BULLCRAP.






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GOP rep. pushes gun reciprocity for lawmakers after Alexandria shooting (Original Post) Duppers Jun 2017 OP
Great idea. Scarsdale Jun 2017 #1
Of course... the answer to gun violence, as ever it is, is even more guns. Still In Wisconsin Jun 2017 #2
Yes, I always pack heat when playing second base. dbackjon Jun 2017 #3
So what holster does the fashionable ball player use? exboyfil Jun 2017 #27
Professional sports would be more interesting if the althletes were packing: robbob Jun 2017 #33
What could possibly go wrong? liberal N proud Jun 2017 #4
Lawmakers packing guns everywhere they go. whow. riversedge Jun 2017 #5
If Zell Miller could have brought his dueling pistols into the Congress... haele Jun 2017 #10
"Next time I'll break more than his glasses!" forgotmylogin Jun 2017 #16
If Trump was smart he'd push national reciprocity while the Republicans own everything... Baconator Jun 2017 #6
Steve Scalise had three armed security with him and he STILL got shot, as did 2 of his security team flibbitygiblets Jun 2017 #7
And these were professionals trained for this kind of situation. Kablooie Jun 2017 #19
Anybody not in uniform in an active shooter scenario exboyfil Jun 2017 #28
If JFK had carried a gun, would it have made a difference? defacto7 Jun 2017 #8
I wanna watch one of them slide into second base... BamaRefugee Jun 2017 #9
I don't think anyone could have predicted this! nt Javaman Jun 2017 #11
Republicans should carry guns... benpollard Jun 2017 #12
Stupid! lark Jun 2017 #13
Not to mention forgotmylogin Jun 2017 #17
In DC, right? What about VIRGINIA? elleng Jun 2017 #14
Last paragraph above Duppers Jun 2017 #20
Thanks. elleng Jun 2017 #21
You're welcome. Duppers Jun 2017 #32
They planning on practicing baseball with AR-15s strapped across their bodies? tanyev Jun 2017 #15
Having a gun without extensive law officer level training only makes you a bigger target. Kablooie Jun 2017 #18
This is exactly right DeminPennswoods Jun 2017 #22
Yea give the first one to Gianforte Egnever Jun 2017 #23
And smoking should be allowed in black powder factories.nt FigTree Jun 2017 #24
Good one. Duppers Jun 2017 #25
Yeah, let's allow fuckheads like Steve King and Louie Gohmert to pack heat. Paladin Jun 2017 #26
It's a good idea atreides1 Jun 2017 #29
And how, exactly, would that have helped? Does a person normally play baseball Vinca Jun 2017 #30
Aren't Republicans the party that told students to throw things and charge at an active shooter. That Guy 888 Jun 2017 #31

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
1. Great idea.
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 02:10 PM
Jun 2017

If they are as inept at shooting as they are at governing, we will not need elections!! They will solve our problems for us. Clean house, then we can get some REAL representatives in their places.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
2. Of course... the answer to gun violence, as ever it is, is even more guns.
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 02:11 PM
Jun 2017

These Republicans are, collectively, a one-trick pony.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
3. Yes, I always pack heat when playing second base.
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 02:12 PM
Jun 2017

Heck, my league doesn't allow anyone on the field to have ANY metal, whether chains, necklaces, earrings that dangle, etc.

haele

(12,673 posts)
10. If Zell Miller could have brought his dueling pistols into the Congress...
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 03:05 PM
Jun 2017

We might have been subject to a lot more House special elections over the years, just saying. And I'd sure as hell be nervous about Gianforte when he takes his seat.
Some of those people in congress have a very odd sense of what is appropriate and what isn't. And a good number of them have anger issues.

Haele

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
6. If Trump was smart he'd push national reciprocity while the Republicans own everything...
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 02:20 PM
Jun 2017

He'd have a base of support for life...

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
7. Steve Scalise had three armed security with him and he STILL got shot, as did 2 of his security team
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 02:23 PM
Jun 2017

WTF is with this cowboy mentality that more guns will fix the problem?
It's so crazy, they don't use this rationale on anything else: It's like saying:

"Hey there's an opioid epidemic, let's have doctors hand out heroin on streetcorners!"
"Hey, my house keeps getting broken into, let's leave the doors unlocked, surely that will help!"
"Half of the country is obese--so of course, free McDonalds for everyone!!"

Kablooie

(18,638 posts)
19. And these were professionals trained for this kind of situation.
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 03:21 AM
Jun 2017

Some average guy pulling out a pistol would only make him a more noticeable target.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
28. Anybody not in uniform in an active shooter scenario
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 03:35 PM
Jun 2017

is taking his/her life in his/her hands. Recently a plain clothes police officer was shot to death by a fellow officer during an active shooter attack on a police station.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/maryland-cop-mistook-plainclothes-officer-threat-fatal-shooting/story?id=37699834

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
8. If JFK had carried a gun, would it have made a difference?
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 02:25 PM
Jun 2017

If Bobby Kenedy had carried would it have made a difference?
Martin Luther King Jr.
Gabby Gifford?
Anybody?
No, No, No, No, and no.

benpollard

(199 posts)
12. Republicans should carry guns...
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 03:34 PM
Jun 2017

They'll wind up shooting each other and themselves accidently. Fuckin' morons.

lark

(23,147 posts)
13. Stupid!
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 04:27 PM
Jun 2017

Yeah, how many people would have been killed if those clueless quick draw Repugs had had guns, you can bet there would be quite a few more dead folks. Guns do nothing but kill, they don't protect unless the person with the gun is very skilled and the other one with a gun isn't. Many women find their own guns are taken from them and used against them.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
20. Last paragraph above
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 07:09 AM
Jun 2017

"Virginia offers concealed-carry permits and allows citizens to carry firearms openly without a license. But Washington's tighter gun laws makes it more difficult for lawmakers to carry guns. "




tanyev

(42,601 posts)
15. They planning on practicing baseball with AR-15s strapped across their bodies?
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 05:06 PM
Jun 2017

They're not only fortunate Scalise's security detail was there, they're fortunate the security detail had very good aim.

Kablooie

(18,638 posts)
18. Having a gun without extensive law officer level training only makes you a bigger target.
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 03:19 AM
Jun 2017

If a guy with assault rifles sees someone pull out a gun, guess who he's going to shoot first?
There were two security officers who were caught in an extensive shootout with one officer being hit. And these were professionsls specifically trained to handle this kind of situation.

How would if have worked out if one Congressman pulled out a pistol?
We'd almost certainly have a dead Congressman lying on the ground with a gun in his hand.

Guns in the hands of the untrained would only make these situations worse.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
22. This is exactly right
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 12:55 PM
Jun 2017

Years ago, I was watching a program on the local PBS channel with a retired cop talking about how to protect yourself. The thing that's stuck with me through the years was him saying that if you have a gun and point it at a perp, you better be ready to kill him (or her) because you can be sure they are ready and able to kill you. He said most people can't bring themselves to shoot to kill, so, essentially, it's unwise to carry a gun for the purpose of "protecting yourself".

I will just also note that one staffer reportedly was hunkered down in his car. His boss said the staffer usually has a 9mm in the car, but he didn't have it and so was unable to do anything. Well, that is he could have started his car and driven it toward the shooter or used it to try and block the gunfire. But he didn't do anything, which makes me think he'd have been too scared to actually get off a good shot.

Paladin

(28,271 posts)
26. Yeah, let's allow fuckheads like Steve King and Louie Gohmert to pack heat.
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 03:29 PM
Jun 2017

That'll make things way better in D.C.

atreides1

(16,091 posts)
29. It's a good idea
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 03:40 PM
Jun 2017

Under very strict conditions

1. 16 hour course on gun safety and the proper storage and cleaning of a gun
2. 16 hour weapon familiarization course, for the type of weapon you are seeking a permit for.
3. 8 hour range exercise followed by a qualification test, in which the firer must score 20 out of 40.
The targets to be at different distances, much the same way as it's done in the military.
4. A live fire exercise course, where they will be required to determine the bad guys from civilians, they must
get 10 out of 10.

Once they've accomplished all of this, they will receive a temporary permit, good for 90 days. After the 90 days they will receive a permanent permit good for the time that they are in office.

Last but not least they will have to renew if reelected, having to meet all of the same standards!

Vinca

(50,302 posts)
30. And how, exactly, would that have helped? Does a person normally play baseball
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 03:55 PM
Jun 2017

with an AK slung over their shoulder or wearing a holstered weapon????????

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
31. Aren't Republicans the party that told students to throw things and charge at an active shooter.
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 05:02 PM
Jun 2017

Reality doesn't seem to favor right-wing fantasies about how he-man Republicans would react in a crisis.

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