Otto Warmbier has extensive loss of brain tissue, no obvious signs of trauma, doctors say
Source: The Washington Post
By Susan Svrluga June 15 at 4:53 PM
CINCINNATI Otto Warmbier, who was medically evacuated from a 17-month detainment in North Korea this week, has extensive loss of brain tissue and is in a state of unresponsive wakefulness, UC Health doctors said Thursday afternoon.
Doctors said they dont know what caused the brain damage. When asked whether it could be the result of beating or other violence while in prison, they said that Warmbier did not show any obvious indications of trauma, nor evidence of either acute or healing fractures. Rather, Daniel Kanter, medical director of the neuroscience intensive care unit at University of Cincinnati Medical Center said, the pattern of brain injury they see on magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) results appeared consistent with a cardiopulmonary arrest, with damage to brain tissue caused by lack of blood flow to the brain.
The doctors are not aware of anything from his previous medical history, prior to his time in North Korea, that might cause cardiopulmonary arrest. One of the more common causes of cardiopulmonary arrest is respiratory arrest, said Jordan Bonomo, neurointensivist at UC Gardner Neuroscience Institute. That cessation of breathing could be triggered by several things, including intoxication or a traumatic injury.
It is possible to have respiratory arrest caused by an overdose of medication, intentional or otherwise, he said.
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Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)His poor family.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)I would imagine it would be difficult to breath while drowning and there would be no signs of water in the lungs at this point. I have no doubts his condition is a result of his treatment at the hands of NK.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,033 posts)cab67
(3,002 posts)...why torture someone accused of vandalism? I don't recall allegations of espionage from the North Koreans, and I can't imagine they'd think he carried valuable intelligence.
(I can, of course, think of answers - that the people running North Korea are uncivilized beasts who torture people with little to no rationale comes to mind - but they still leave me with more questions.)
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Your 2nd paragraph.
DeltaLitProf
(770 posts)I can't imagine a crazy psychopath like Kim Jung Un wouldn't demand that he be able to "play" with an American prisoner himself.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)janx
(24,128 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,530 posts)That's the danger usually in an oxycodone overdose. He may have been sedated and then never woke up, but the breathing reflex continued after he was brain damaged, possibly if they attempted to revive him too late. The damaged part of his brain may have eventually had resumed blood flow, but wasn't able to use it.
This is just my amateur speculation. I only play a doctor on TV.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)mainer
(12,026 posts)That's the North Korean story, anyway. (plus the sleeping pill)
JCMach1
(27,572 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Don't go to North Korea, even if you don't plan on doing silly stuff like taking down pictures of Dear Leaders and such.
I hope this motivates parents all over the world to seriously dissuade their kids from traveling anywhere near this hellhole.
Phoenix61
(17,015 posts)Whatever did it, how tragic.
7962
(11,841 posts)No Vested Interest
(5,167 posts)perhaps by attempted hanging.
That could cut off air supply for a time, enough to cause the type of damage described.
OTOH, his captors could have cut of his air by means of choke-hold, etc.
Apparently, the damage (or dead tissue) is in many or all parts of the brain, not just one or several areas. as in a stroke.
JI7
(89,262 posts)would have dealt with it better.
but his son is like donald trump with that much more power in that country .
Nitram
(22,853 posts)the damage is reportedly consistent with cutting off the supply of oxygen to the brain.