This is what happens in countries that allow their fringe right to get out of control. They always go after artists and the arts first.

They'd especially go after worldly, well-spoken socialists - like yourself. They seem to push their buttons more than anyone.

The wait line cannot even start to give out tickets until 12 noon at the earliest! This publicity has been insane for the show. Before the tweet, everyone on the wait line got in, even if they joined the line at 8PM as the show started, they could not sit next to each other, but they all got seats. Since then, they have had hundreds of people each night that waited and did not get in. More than used to wait outside of Hamilton. I know people from Thursday that waited for 6 hours and were shut out.

during the performance I bet
In the end they were booted and the performance continued at least

When people go to the theatre, they go to be immersed in the performance. If your cell phone rings, you might as well leave, or face dirty looks for 2 hours.

'Hamlet' and a couple of younger folks were playing with a cell phone (probably texting). Well, the actor playing Hamlet, walked across the stage and took the phone while never skipping a beat with his lines. The couple left at intermission and everybody lined up to shake Hamlets hand after the final curtain.

Seems to have been a slow night.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/06/17/pro-trump-protester-arrested-after-rushing-stage-at-controversial-julius-caesar-play-in-new-york/?utm_term=.89a42795f7f2

I thought it was like a "bring a blanket to sit on" type deal and they probably just have a maximum capacity. It's common when an event is free for there to be remaining space right before show time because if people don't pay, they don't lose money if they can't show up, and the organizers can monitor how much space is left in real time.

I may be wrong.

Open to the weather and sounds of the city, you can buy tickets for about $250 each, or enter lotteries to win them on the same day, or get on the wait line, starting at about 3am (when the park is technically closed to the public). Wait line tickets start to be distributed at 12 noon, but it is a trickle until about 730pm, when they might release 100-200. So many people pay, but they do not get refunds, they will sometimes hand an extra to someone on the wait line who looks like someone that they might want to sit next to for 2 hours.

Everything was dandy while they were having their say . What they want to do is squash freedom of speech. That guy needs to go to jail along with the other brown shirts that did this.

That punk thinks he's a hero. Good grief. Calling it a ' PSYOPS operation' . Fucking wannabee.

AND those aren't patriots- they have a mob/cultist mentality while thinking everyone else is brainwashed or brainwashing.

Funny thing is REAL NAZI'S have been gathering and marching in America for years now and not a damn thing was said to them. Why doesn't this guy go to some REAL NAZI gathering places and pull this shit? No one says shit to the real Nazi's who actually claim they ARE Nazi's. No one says a damn thing to them or about them. But this punk is protesting freedom of speech and artistic freedoms. Idiot .

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And their outrage is fake otherwise they would have always spoken out against it.

When hate speech was directed at Obama, at Clinton - when bullets were directed at Gabby Gifford. They always made excuses or attacked people instead of speaking out against the violence.

When bigoted oppressive laws, meant only to marginalize, are directed at people of color, at the LGBT community, and at women. Those laws are a form of political violence.

No. They are beyond themselves with glee that they can latch onto the Scalise shooting and use it as a means to play the victim. To claim they are under attack. Those two in the article are thrilled at the chance to use Scalise's shooting to peddle their bullshit.

I still remember when that one guy shot at the Obama White House, causing some damage.

"Oh that's different!"

Using Scalise's injuries to continue to attack the left.

They don't care he got shot. But they do enjoy the opportunities to attack the left it presented.

Their tactic seems to be to occasionally invite a Democrat on to their channel for their view, and then shout them down so they can't say a word. After all, they might say something sensible or true.

So a play is put on that is staged so as to out Republicans in a bad light? Same tactic. Shout it down, disrupt it. After all, they have no argument they can print in the paper that holds water.

Hello, new here. I'll be honest, I am not a democrat. But I am ready for new leadership since November 9, 2016.

Welcome to DU, HappyBeing! We're glad to have you with us!

I really hope you find what you're looking for here. DU's a very diverse community. A fair number of registered Democrats are conservative, of course, though I don't note many actually choosing to discuss that here these overly partisan days.

In any case, this is a large, very diverse community with many different viewpoints, and a lot of pretty emotional people are coming these days. For people of all viewpoints there can be a lot to forgive, or better yet learn to ignore. It might help to identify specific posters you have common ground and often just plain agree with. For sure you'll find some.

Welcome HappyBeing.

I remember it clearly. It was in the news at the time, though very few covered it. The performance was during the Obama Administration and had a black man as Julius Caesar, an obvious send up of the president. She marched right up to that stage and did the same thing, protested the portrayal of the assassination of the president-as-Caesar (even though that's NOT what the play is about, but whatevs).

The performance she disrupted was in a little theater in Bowling Green...

for taking a video of a children's birthday party. He was not related to anyone at the party.

They certainly have the right to perform it, but I would never go to see a play that supports political violence, no matter how deplorable the target.

Using a contemporary setting, as many producers of Shakespeare's plays have done. It is depicting, not supporting, political violence.

Certainly they have the "right" to do it just as they have the "right" to hit themselves over the head with a hammer.

As if you disapprove of creative people having them.

I also used the quotes in my equally silly example.

And no, creativity does not depend on what the viewer thinks. It doesn't need your approval.

and everyone has to agree. My approval IS needed, if I am to agree that its creative.
Some people look at a pile of horse shit on the floor and call it creative. It doesnt make it so; only to them & anyone who thinks the same. The same goes for artwork; eye of the beholder. If someone spends a ton of money on a framed canvas of solid black, I wouldnt call it "art", I'd call it "genius". genius that the artist actually convinced some fool to give him money for nothing.

If you don't want to call a black canvas art, that's fine. A little background in art history might help you understand why others do, however. You as the observer are not the only variable in the equation. You can personally not like something and it can still be art. You can disapprove of it, you can call it ugly, you can proclaim to everyone within hearing that in your opinion it's not art—and it can still be art.

But 2+2 always equals 4.

And at least two other presidents. There's nothing new about this except the selective outrage.

Take an old play performed thousands of times and just make the characters people of today

Asylum with Alan Cumming doing a lot of the parts- sort of as voices in his head. It was amazing.
My friends theater company did Midsummer's Night Dream set in New Jersey in the fifties. Using an American cadence and setting helps a lot of people feel less alienated by the old timey costumes or context that they don't immediately get.

"Didnt like that either. Hardly creative..."

That's the narrative I'd push as well... it both creatively rationalizes "pushback" and imaginatively justifies lack of nuance at the same time.

Freedom of speech is an amazing thing.

to get your take on it.

I just dont like the idea of using the ACTUAL presidents name, whoever it may be, in stories, movies or plays like this.
We already see stories using a fictitious president all the time.

I can understand why they do it, artistically. But I am not going to criticize anyone for protesting.

Any depiction of Obama being hung, lynched, or harmed in any way was very upsetting for me.

Now this is just a play, and it is art, and they have every right to perform this. But the simulation of the violent murder of a sitting president makes me very uncomfortable. So I will not condemn someone who protests it.

Would you condemn someone who protested when it was Obama?

understand that it was an attempt to draw a modern audience into Shakespeare. No need to protest at all.

I would protest Jim Bob hanging a black dummy in a tree with a sign saying Obama around his neck. Two totally different things IMO.

It is not ABOUT Trump, as the previous production was not ABOUT Obama. It's about a historical figure who we know from history really was killed in the way the play depicts. It's about a group of men making the judgment—without benefit of law—that the murder they are committing, and the way they choose to do it, is for the greater good. Using a contemporary head of state as a stand-in for Caesar brings it home to us how shocking a thing that would be and what it would portend for the future. The Roman senators had convinced themselves that they were saving the Republic, but by acting outside the law they were betraying the very ideals of a republic. There's a caution to all democratic republics there, which is why the play is a classic. Protesters are missing the point.

since around 1595. I highly recommend "A Year in the Life of William Shakespeare", by James Shapiro: it talks about the plays performed in 1599 - including Julius Caesar - and how they reflect the events of that time.

fascisti.

Elizabeth and James I would not have viewed kindly any performance designed to validate or endorse regicide, no matter how good the rationale behind it. And each monarch had the political muscle to cause heads literally to roll

Would you see any war movie or any movie about the American Revolution? Any movie about the American Revolution glorifies political violence.

Oh, and don't go see "The Manchurian Candidate", either.

afraid of comedy and satire, over anxious about old segregation symbols statues & flags.

Is it lead poisoning, medicine side effects, to much TV/radio or what?

or even watch it, if they think they are too busy to read. Then they could watch the versions of it that have been produced over the years. It just makes me so damned mad that people spout off this political nonsense out of laziness.

It was especially pathetic to read about Trump's son doing that.

Laura Loomer and Jack Posobiec are twitter trolls for the trump family.

I'd love to see what they do with it.

ETA. Shoot. Nevermind. It closes tomorrow.

Is a Russian name?

Grab some wieners, it's coming

Right wing butthurt made possible by militant ignorance. It's too bad there is no way to slap some sense into these folks.

or ANY event they would be arrested.

How are people in the theater supposed to know what motive a stage jumper has? In the USA people have jumped on stage and started shooting! (movie shooter)

They all went to jail, if I recall correctly.

but otherwise the resemblance seems real enough. Both were highly successful and made sure the public knew it, though Caesar's conquest of Gaul was arguably a bigger deal than Trump Tower. The uncanny part is the young nephew who later became Caesar Augustus and at this early stage recalls son-in-law Kushner. Also the abuse of power, although Caesar had defied the Senate and gone to war against Rome in a famous episode and Trump hasn't gone there, at least not yet, gulp.

As to the casting, I kind of think this would be better for an indoor paid theater than a park. Discretion is the better part of valour and the Oregon shooting was a warning that probably should be heeded.

the modern repug version of the SS.

And what jackass called this pig a "patriot"?