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FrodosNewPet

(495 posts)
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 05:55 PM Jun 2017

Uber allows riders to tip drivers via app, matching Lyft

Source: Washington Post

By Michael Liedtke and Tom Krisher?|?AP June 20 at 4:56 PM

SAN FRANCISCO — Uber is enabling passengers to tip its U.S. drivers with a tap on its ride-hailing app for the first time, part of a push to recast itself as a company with a conscience and a heart.

Besides the built-in tipping announced Tuesday, Uber is giving drivers an opportunity to make more money in other ways too.

Riders will be charged by the minute if they keep an Uber car waiting for more than two minutes. Uber also is reducing the time riders have to cancel a ride to avoid being slapped with a $5 fee from five minutes to two minutes after summoning a driver.

Uber won’t take any of the tip money. The San Francisco company will continue to collect part of ride-cancellation fees, as well as the waiting-time charges.

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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/uber-adds-option-to-tip-drivers-as-it-heads-in-new-direction/2017/06/20/84ed97c8-55da-11e7-840b-512026319da7_story.html?utm_term=.6a46f5eaf8ca



It's about damn time! Driving rideshare, just like cab, is a stressful, usually underpaid, and highly disrespected profession. Maybe, in Travis's absence, they will start to respect their drivers and passengers, at least a little bit?
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Uber allows riders to tip drivers via app, matching Lyft (Original Post) FrodosNewPet Jun 2017 OP
Meh Loki Liesmith Jun 2017 #1
Why "Meh"? FrodosNewPet Jun 2017 #2
Yes that's exactly what I'm opposed to Loki Liesmith Jun 2017 #4
I always try to tip... targetpractice Jun 2017 #6
In a normal business, wages come from revenue FrodosNewPet Jun 2017 #14
Good for the drivers. haele Jun 2017 #3
"And they make more money from Lyft" left-of-center2012 Jun 2017 #10
They make more money per ride from Lyft TexasBushwhacker Jun 2017 #18
Just another way for Uber to steal $$ from the drivers sdfernando Jun 2017 #5
They will pass all tip money to drivers. targetpractice Jun 2017 #7
Uber has a tricky way of stiffing drivers...and riders for that matter sdfernando Jun 2017 #8
"I've tried to tip Uber drivers and they refuse" left-of-center2012 Jun 2017 #11
I do, too... targetpractice Jun 2017 #13
I would rather tip cash than use an app. n/t left-of-center2012 Jun 2017 #17
I have had a lot of Uber drivers initially refuse to take a tip, but when I insist smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #19
uber rips drivers so the customers are supposed to make up for it. no tipping, no uber rides nt msongs Jun 2017 #9
I'm always suspect of anti-Uber and anti-Lyft comments left-of-center2012 Jun 2017 #12
Here in DC, sometimes I get cabs through Uber/Lyft IronLionZion Jun 2017 #15
Pittsburgh too left-of-center2012 Jun 2017 #16

FrodosNewPet

(495 posts)
2. Why "Meh"?
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 06:03 PM
Jun 2017

I don't understand. Are you opposed to drivers earning enough to make it worth their time to provide a service vital to people who don't have any other transportation options?

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
4. Yes that's exactly what I'm opposed to
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 06:14 PM
Jun 2017

*eyeroll*

Tipping relieves the business owner of an incentive to pay a competitive wage.

Nothing stops anyone from tipping a driver a few bucks if they've done a good job. Don't embed it into the platform

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
6. I always try to tip...
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 06:47 PM
Jun 2017

But often Uber drivers can't break a twenty or sometimes I leave home without cash in my wallet.

I've been using Uber since the beginning (and asking them for this feature), and I am overjoyed that I can tip using the app now. All cab drivers in NYC are tipped, and can be tipped when paying by credit card.

Tipping is part of getting services in the US.

FrodosNewPet

(495 posts)
14. In a normal business, wages come from revenue
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:19 PM
Jun 2017

For better or for worse, it is part of the American psyche to pay $X for a product or service. By the nasty, cruel laws of math, the business can only pay a percentage of X out as wages. Some of X has to go to other expenses, such as location charges, utilities, supporting employees, marketing, business services, etc. The remainder, if any, is profit.

In Uber's case, all those expenses exceed revenues. They've been lucky to have attracted a fat load of investment capital. But not every business has that benefit. When outgo exceeds income, you run out of money. So they are given a choice of controlling expenses or raising prices. Raising prices leads to fewer people using your product or service. If the reduction in customers is large enough, you go out of business.

Perhaps it is an indictment on America. Perhaps we should all hold our heads in shame for being cheapskates who don't want to pay the true cost of products and services. But the practical reality is, certain professions need to be tipped to provide a bare-bones level living to those who perform them. Driving people for a living is one of them.

haele

(12,674 posts)
3. Good for the drivers.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 06:10 PM
Jun 2017

Most of the Uber drivers around here also drive for Lyft. And they make more money from Lyft.

(Mind you, public transportation needs a lot of work around this city, and Taxi companies are good for some trips, but not very affordable for the local 1 - 2 mile trips...)

Haele

TexasBushwhacker

(20,211 posts)
18. They make more money per ride from Lyft
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 06:45 PM
Jun 2017

But they get more volume from Uber. Most also say that Lyft riders are nicer.

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
7. They will pass all tip money to drivers.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 06:49 PM
Jun 2017

I've tried to tip Uber drivers and they refuse... With this new feature/policy, they don't need to worry about it.

sdfernando

(4,940 posts)
8. Uber has a tricky way of stiffing drivers...and riders for that matter
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 07:14 PM
Jun 2017

There is a class action lawsuit filed in Los Angeles that deals with the theft. They are now making drivers sign another document that basically says, if you dispute a fair amount that you agree to accept the final explanation and amount Uber tells you.

They have been using two different algorithms to determine fares, one for the rider and another for the driver. Then they payout on the drivers algorithm which may be (and often is) lower then the rider fare. The Uber contract states the driver gets 75% of what the rider pays....so they are stealing.

With their track record, I would not trust that they report the correct tip amount to the driver.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
11. "I've tried to tip Uber drivers and they refuse"
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 08:15 PM
Jun 2017

I always tip both Uber and Lyft in cash,
and they always take it,
willingly.

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
13. I do, too...
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:20 PM
Jun 2017

Sometimes they I don't have the right cash in my wallet, and in some cases they seem afraid to take what I have.... like I'm an Uber corporate spy. This rarely happens, though.

I understand how important tips are to them.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. I have had a lot of Uber drivers initially refuse to take a tip, but when I insist
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 07:17 PM
Jun 2017

they will usually graciously accept. Even with a tip, it's still cheaper than a taxi.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
12. I'm always suspect of anti-Uber and anti-Lyft comments
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 08:21 PM
Jun 2017

(Not referring to the Original Post)

I leave wondering if they are from cab drivers.
Here in Albuquerque one of two cab companies went out of business,
saying it was due to Uber's success here.

IronLionZion

(45,516 posts)
15. Here in DC, sometimes I get cabs through Uber/Lyft
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:54 PM
Jun 2017

as in I order a car like normal, and a cab shows up because he uses the app.

The DC taxi drivers commission also brought out their own app for people who want the convenience. https://www.dctaxi.com/ It's very competitive here in a city where lots of folks don't have cars and parking costs much more than a round trip ride in a car service.

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