Not enough English speakers and I don't mean the Latino population.

The Trump administration might go along with moving production of the F-16 to another country? What about made in America by Americans? Surely no administration would tolerate moving production of a major weapons system out of the country.

The F-35 has three final assembly plants - Fort Worth, Japan and Italy.

I mean donations

Is Liz Cheney still on the BOD?

I read today Boeing is linking up with a Chinese state company. They said it would not effect us jobs. How about build here and ship to them the finished product. Cant help think helping Chinese military is a mistake. Also Ford announced it was moving the Focus production to China. So much for Trump saving jobs for Americans.

I thought we learned this lesson.

Wouldn't keeping the production jobs in America also " support "thousands of Lockheed Martin and F-16 supplier jobs in the U.S.," "?

Trump to the rescue for American jobs like he took credit for Carrier.

Right?

How soon?

Getting a deal with India even with a final assembly plant in India keeps the suppliers and vendors making parts for F-16. Otherwise as of now the line shuts down in September and if they get a new order from someone other than India they'll set up the production line in South Carolina.

The other competitors for the India tender will offer co-production options, which is beneficial to India. The US isn't buying these jets. As of now no one else is buying these jets.

Maybe I just don't understand these kind of things, but how would this support U.S. jobs?

There are no more orders for the F-16. The last one will be delivered in September. The production line in Fort Worth will be removed so the space can be used for F-35. The line will be set up in South Carolina. Employees working the production line for F-16 will move to F-35. All engineering and business operations would remain in Fort Worth. Even if the line isn't set up in South Carolina they're working the T-50 trainer program there.

A co-production agreement with India is part of the deal if India buys F-16s. If another country decides to buy F-16s they could come out of the South Carolina facility.

Co-production agreements are very common. For instance the F-35 is also assembled in Japan and Italy in addition to Fort Worth, but engineering, sustainment and business operations are based in Fort Worth.

Not to question your veracity but do you have a link to your info? Thanks.

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/business/article140090128.html

That that throws more light on the subject.

That really helps me to understand how this works.

part of me. If we are paying obscene amounts of taxpayer dollars on these planes, taxpayers ought to be assembling them. Maybe we should have a law!

The last F-16 will be delivered in September to Iraq. A co-production agreement with India is part of the deal to get India to buy them.

because if we refuse they buy from another country right? In that case no American, corporate or individual, benefits. If we move production to another country to sweeten a deal, then no American worker benefits but corporate America does. That's horseshit! I expect they will be calling me to get my opinion on this soon.............

Planes need parts and support to keep flying. The people who pound the rivets are only part of the big picture.

F-16 production is going away regardless of whether India buys them or not. If India does buy them, more people will be employed providing support.

The F-16 isn't the only game in town. Russia has already built multiple models of fighter aircraft in India. Dassault is made in France. Eurofighter is made in Germany. If India goes with a competitor, the US doesn't even get a "silver lining".

There are still subcontractors and workers in the US and the engineering work would still be done in the US. As of September there is no more production of the F-16 unless someone buys them.

https://gov-relations.com/itar/

I remember watching Chuck Yeager fly the F-20 Tiger Shark against the F-16, and the F-20 Kicked the F-16 ass, but because of political upstarts and kickbacks the old horse was not going to happen, the F-16 won because of the firepower, buy didn't' have the g-force capabilities of the pilot in the F20 abilities -------------why.

But Nasa and Korea and some other countries bought it to keep the line going, that plane kicked the F-16 ass it was a absolute sight to see that demonstration by Yeager. And now country in need to Block V aircraft is basically telling the US will buy but we build, just like Chinooks helicopters well buy, but we build.


I keep thinking of the glass cockpit technology transfer, and the communication system and the paint for stealth be giving out, has anyone thought of those little national security issues, that damn paint, is classified and you have to have ITAR approval to get that information?

We've moved on the the F-35.

The Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) is an Eurasian political, economic, and security organisation with China, India, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. In line for full membership is Afghanistan, Belarus, Iran and Mongolia all with observer status. SCO is linked to Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO), which is a military alliance for Russia and small parts of the former USSR. SCO's own eight full members account for half of the world's population and a quarter of the world's GDP.
http://theduran.com/india-pakistan-join-shanghai-cooperation-organisation/

The article claims most of their older planes were from Russia and nearing end of life. They need lots of new planes. So it's good for Lockheed to steal this business away from Putin. Prime Minister Modi is also championing "Made in India" as a requirement. India is a US ally.

One of the many reasons Putin is bombing Syria is because he wants to show the world his country's weapons and planes so they can buy some. They've used stealth bombers on rebels who have no radar.

In the meantime, it would be fun to bash Trump for not supporting American workers anyway.