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Stuart G

(38,448 posts)
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:43 PM Jun 2017

3 GOP Senators to Oppose Health Care Bill

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) — At least three Republican senators are expected to publicly oppose the Senate's health care proposal Thursday afternoon, a Senate GOP source familiar with their plans told CNN.

Republicans can only lose two members of their 52-senator caucus in order to pass their proposal to repeal and replace Obamacare.

The news of three senators opposing the plan was first reported by NBC News. A number of other GOP senators are avoiding outright supporting the new health care bill unveiled by Republican leaders Thursday morning -- saying they need more time to read the fine print before taking a stand

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/22/politics/republicans-resist-health-care-bill-support/index.html

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3 GOP Senators to Oppose Health Care Bill (Original Post) Stuart G Jun 2017 OP
While I hope that is true, I remain skeptical since I am not sure if they will cave in to still_one Jun 2017 #1
If I were they, I'd look that fat bastard in the eye and say: "two words, Bitchy Mitchy:" sandensea Jun 2017 #2
Mitch McConnells Freighted Ties to a Shadowy Shipping Company klook Jun 2017 #31
Four+ years, and crickets. sandensea Jun 2017 #32
Yes, somebody should write a narcocorrido klook Jun 2017 #34
Bitchy Mitchy, bouncing up and down to a Cumbia rhythm. sandensea Jun 2017 #37
Yes, I also hope that is true...The link says further down that.. Stuart G Jun 2017 #3
I might call them clowns, but I wouldn't want to offend Binky and Emmett Kelly. pangaia Jun 2017 #17
exactly, standard operating procedure is for a few holdouts to try to extract something. unblock Jun 2017 #4
There is a week for a lot of pressure to be put on these three to vote yes. Kablooie Jun 2017 #5
I would be willing to bet that the threats go much farther than just threats to re-election. pangaia Jun 2017 #18
These three votes are trying to minimalize pressure for the week. Likely a total con job. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #24
It's all staged. Just Kabuki theater. Bleacher Creature Jun 2017 #6
They will vote for it no doubt. Pure posturing JDC Jun 2017 #13
Don't you believe it. Zoonart Jun 2017 #7
If this passes with 50 votes and VP Pence... brooklynite Jun 2017 #8
agree and even more rtracey Jun 2017 #20
Read the article, they think the bill will be pulled to the right. lark Jun 2017 #9
This is for the people they work for atreides1 Jun 2017 #11
Taking bets that they are simply doing this for show and they intend to do it with 50 votes cstanleytech Jun 2017 #10
Cruz is a caver and media hog. But I think Rand Paul may not vote for it. Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #21
DKos says: They will be lying. ananda Jun 2017 #12
Make that four Senators. Eugene Jun 2017 #14
Mike Lee too. padah513 Jun 2017 #19
Ron Johnson of WI. He is a lying, hateful right wing toady. usaf-vet Jun 2017 #26
Now what was that echo? Oh, yes... lambchopp59 Jun 2017 #15
they will still VOTE FOR IT. lemmings. pansypoo53219 Jun 2017 #16
INDEED. I fully expect this is a con job to stifle resistance. Timing is obvious. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #23
They'll just make it shittier for them Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2017 #22
It's up to 4 GOP Senators now.... Joe Nation Jun 2017 #25
Yesterday Sen. Franken said he'd be shocked if Murkowski or Collins would vote for this catastrophe Mr. Ected Jun 2017 #27
I thought that too. If it's just the Rand Paul crowd, then it will follow the scam they pulled in OnDoutside Jun 2017 #33
Those two not fooled Jun 2017 #39
Four GOP senators: We wont vote for current health care bill Judi Lynn Jun 2017 #28
Now it is 4. classykaren Jun 2017 #29
I'd think it's better politically for them not to pass this & be on the hook for the results MrPurple Jun 2017 #30
Maybe. Maybe not. They've got a week to be made to fold. ancianita Jun 2017 #35
tweak ACA Republicans! it's the only responsable way. Remember the insurance corps wrote the alpha & Sunlei Jun 2017 #36
3 GOP Senators to Oppose Healthcare Bill gilligan Jun 2017 #38
Lockstep sellitman Jun 2017 #40
Ha ha ha bullshit. FenwayDonkey Jun 2017 #41

still_one

(92,409 posts)
1. While I hope that is true, I remain skeptical since I am not sure if they will cave in to
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:46 PM
Jun 2017

pressure from their leadership


sandensea

(21,670 posts)
32. Four+ years, and crickets.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 05:36 PM
Jun 2017

This was an official police investigation in Colombia, complete with arrests.

Sounds like the Chaos got to the Colombians.

Stuart G

(38,448 posts)
3. Yes, I also hope that is true...The link says further down that..
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:49 PM
Jun 2017

a number of GOP senators have gone back to their offices to read the bill. So, they don't even know what their leadership has put in this bill. What a fucking bunch of bozos....(my apologies to bozos out there who do not wish to be compared to these idiots.)

unblock

(52,328 posts)
4. exactly, standard operating procedure is for a few holdouts to try to extract something.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:51 PM
Jun 2017

"if i vote for this bill, it's cost me votes back home, but if you steer a few million into my re-election fund, that'll offset it."

it's all about the money with these republicans.

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
5. There is a week for a lot of pressure to be put on these three to vote yes.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:54 PM
Jun 2017

There will probably be threats to sink their reelection if they don't accept it.

Besides the health care issues this bill is the foundation for their new tax cuts for the rich.
If this doesn't pass their promised tax reformation will be much harder to accomplish.

So it's a major, major issue for Republicans to get this passed.


L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
24. These three votes are trying to minimalize pressure for the week. Likely a total con job.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 03:24 PM
Jun 2017

Don't trust them for one second!

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
6. It's all staged. Just Kabuki theater.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:55 PM
Jun 2017

They'll hold out until a few minor amendments are made, and then declare the bill fixed. Let's not get played this time.

Zoonart

(11,879 posts)
7. Don't you believe it.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:56 PM
Jun 2017

Window dressing and compassionate conservative bullshit. More amateur theatrics. Wee see who they are.

brooklynite

(94,737 posts)
8. If this passes with 50 votes and VP Pence...
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:59 PM
Jun 2017

...then EVERY Senator up for re-election is "the vote that took away your health care" in next year's campaign ads.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
20. agree and even more
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:59 PM
Jun 2017

Even more.... I put up a post in general discussion calling for all Democratic representative to organize town hall meetings NOW in every state in this country, and call out the right wing....

lark

(23,156 posts)
9. Read the article, they think the bill will be pulled to the right.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:00 PM
Jun 2017

OMG, kicking granny out of her nursing home isn't mean enough, they need to remove healthcare from more people? Isn't there anyone in the entire repug caucus who gives a damn about the people they work for? It sure doesn't seem that way.

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
11. This is for the people they work for
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:21 PM
Jun 2017

The insurance industry, the corporate executives, millionaires and billionaires, the religious fanatics who worship a Jewish carpenter(the ones who can bring the money and votes in)!

Those are the people they work for...those have been their employers since Citizens United made cash into a form of free speech!

You surely don't believe that they actually represent the mud sloggers and hut dwellers, back home? Those people are only for when it's time to get re-elected...and after the votes have been counted, those people will be lucky if these politicians piss down their backs and not charge them for the experience!!!

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
10. Taking bets that they are simply doing this for show and they intend to do it with 50 votes
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:10 PM
Jun 2017

with Pence breaking the "tie" so in other words about 20+ million americans are about to be fucked over by the Repugnants.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
21. Cruz is a caver and media hog. But I think Rand Paul may not vote for it.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:59 PM
Jun 2017

He's an ideologue and Ann Raynd devotee. I think he won't vote for it because it's not cruel enough.

Cruz grandstands but in the end has voted the way he was expected to.

I don't know about the other two.

padah513

(2,506 posts)
19. Mike Lee too.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:57 PM
Jun 2017

He was one of the thirteen supposedly drafting the thing and said even he didn't know what was in it.

usaf-vet

(6,209 posts)
26. Ron Johnson of WI. He is a lying, hateful right wing toady.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 04:03 PM
Jun 2017

He would kiss "Turtle's naked butt of live TV" if he was told to.

He can not be trusted. Bought and paid for by the 1% millionaires and billionaires.

What else can a guy say.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
15. Now what was that echo? Oh, yes...
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:45 PM
Jun 2017

"A disaster! A failure! Must repeal, repeal, repeal!!!! And go back to the good old days of:

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
27. Yesterday Sen. Franken said he'd be shocked if Murkowski or Collins would vote for this catastrophe
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 04:04 PM
Jun 2017

Surprised they're not on this list.

OnDoutside

(19,972 posts)
33. I thought that too. If it's just the Rand Paul crowd, then it will follow the scam they pulled in
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 05:51 PM
Jun 2017

the House....last minute McConnell will offer something small to "allow" Paul/Cruz etc to vote it through.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
39. Those two
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 08:06 PM
Jun 2017

could be let off the hook by mcturdle if he has all the other puke senators by vote time. Continue the lie that those two are "moderates". Meanwhile, it passes. Yep, kabuki.



Judi Lynn

(160,630 posts)
28. Four GOP senators: We wont vote for current health care bill
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 04:17 PM
Jun 2017


Yahoo News Andrew Bahl Yahoo News June 22, 2017


WASHINGTON — In a potentially game-changing move, four conservative senators quickly announced Thursday afternoon that they oppose the health care bill rolled out by Republican Senate leadership earlier in the day.

Sens. Rand Paul, R-Ky.; Mike Lee, R-Utah; Ted Cruz, R-Texas and Ron Johnson, R-Wis. said in a statement that the proposal did not go far enough in overhauling the current system.

“There are provisions in this draft that represent an improvement to our current health care system, but it does not appear that this draft as written will accomplish the most important promise that we made to the Americans: to repeal Obamacare and lower their health care costs,” the group said in the release.

With only 52 Republican senators, the bill would fail if the four legislators maintain their opposition. But the group indicated they would be open to a revised version of the bill. This means they may attempt to force concessions from Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., before the bill is brought to a vote — possibly as soon as next week.

More:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/four-gop-senators-wont-vote-current-health-care-bill-192155995.html?soc_trk=gcm&soc_src=a0d7935a-b327-11e5-bc1e-fa163e6f4a7e&.tsrc=notification-brknews

MrPurple

(985 posts)
30. I'd think it's better politically for them not to pass this & be on the hook for the results
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 04:32 PM
Jun 2017

They're the dog that caught the car with this issue. Now, they either look ineffectual for having majorities and being unable to fulfill their pledge, or being blamed for the results, when people experience them. For the benefit of the American people, I hope they are unable to pass it, but I think the Rethugs lose on this issue either way.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
36. tweak ACA Republicans! it's the only responsable way. Remember the insurance corps wrote the alpha &
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 06:30 PM
Jun 2017

beta system for the ACA state insurance exchanges. The works already been done and the system WORKS GREAT.

gilligan

(194 posts)
38. 3 GOP Senators to Oppose Healthcare Bill
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 07:36 PM
Jun 2017

I don't know who they are but it's probably not harsh enough for them.
Just guessing.

sellitman

(11,607 posts)
40. Lockstep
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 11:30 PM
Jun 2017

Of course they will pass it. There is not a doubt in my mind. In fact I suspect they will make it nastier before they pass the final copy.

Bet the ranch.

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