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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 01:20 PM Jun 2017

France's Socialists choose to oppose Macron government

Source: Politico




No opposition group has enough seats to block Macron’s reform plans.

By NICHOLAS VINOCUR 6/25/17, 1:40 PM CET Updated 6/25/17, 1:42 PM CET

PARIS — France’s Socialist Party will not vote in favor of a motion of confidence in Prime Minister Edouard Philippe’s government in early July, its leadership decided, placing it clearly in the opposition.

Philippe will ask parliament to vote for a motion of confidence in his government as he presents his general roadmap for reform on July 4.

But the Socialist Party, which was trounced in legislative elections and has fewer than 40 seats in parliament, will vote to oppose the measure, its members decided late Saturday, according to Le Monde.

The move confirms that President Emmanuel Macron, who has a broad majority in parliament, will face opposition from his former Socialist Party in addition to hardliners in the conservative Les Républicains (LR) party, far-left MPs from Jean-Luc Mélenchon’s France Unbowed party and Marine Le Pen’s far-right National Front.

Read more: http://www.politico.eu/article/french-socialists-choose-to-oppose-macron-government/

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DFW

(54,414 posts)
1. Macron doesn't appear to give a rat's ass, and at this point, he shouldn't
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 02:54 PM
Jun 2017

The socialists and the Républicains (including their previous incarnations) have been major fuck-ups when they held power, and the extreme right and the extreme left offer nothing but tired old slogans as solutions to problems they don't even seem to fully understand.

Macron will make mistakes and stumble, but he does truly seem to want things to abandon their stagnation, which Eurocrats are so well known (and despised) for. Let's hope he gets somewhere.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
3. They pretty much have to oppose Macron if they are to survive.
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 05:22 PM
Jun 2017

The Socialists came damn close to being wiped out in the legislative elections, winning a pathetic 29 seats.

If they are to recover, their only chance is to be the anti-austerity party Hollande refused to allow them to be when they were in power.

They should also consider forming an alliance with Melanchon's party for the next round of local elections and probably from then on.

The only voters who are going to turn away from Macron's party are those who voted for him on antifascist grounds against Marine Le Pen, but who never really supported his anti-worker policies and his plans to cut social benefits.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
4. It's a pretty cynical move, but denying the reality of the financial mess France is in, is what got
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 05:51 PM
Jun 2017

them decimated in the first place.

I hope Macron succeeds, not just for France, but for the rest of us in the EU. Centrism must succeed, with fascists like Le Pen hovering.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
5. Lots of things worked in Macron's favor.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 05:35 PM
Jun 2017

The survey results that show that France needs a "resurgence" plays to LePen's strength, but Macron's moderate with it. Something like 80% of the population is in favor of it, and you ignore it at your own risk. He undercut Marine.

The economy, and some of the changes he wants that'll hurt workers rights went straight at the Socialists record. But the economy needs some help, because the current labor rules are untenable and have been for a long time.

He's not anti-Putin, he's not pro-Putin. He's trying to forge a delicate path.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
6. Yes, France has reached an exasperated point, that's why people voted for him. I've said this here
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 05:48 PM
Jun 2017

previously but a friend of mine is a business owner in France, and is looking to sell. Some of the stories he told me, about the mad labour laws, defy logic. Himself and his wife are good (naïve) employers, they pay a good bit above minimum wage in an area where there aren't too many jobs on offer, and have treated the staff like family. However, that fairness hasn't been returned. One of the numerous occasions, was where an employee was eventually found on video at the till, handing over hundreds of euros worth of stock to an accomplice. They dismissed her for theft (she had been doing it for a while) but she took them to the Labour tribunal, and my friend had to PAY HER thousands for her to go. There were lots of stories like that, so they are selling up. They might look for another business in France, but it would be an absolute minimum of staff.

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