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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 01:33 PM Jun 2017

Sixty high-rise buildings fail safety tests after London fire: UK government

Source: Reuters

Sixty high-rise buildings have failed safety tests carried out after a fire killed at least 79 people in London earlier this month, the British government said on Sunday.

British officials are conducting tests on some 600 high-rise buildings across England after fire ravaged the Grenfell tower block in west London on June 14, prompting public anger over the Conservative government's budget cuts.

On Friday some 4,000 residents were forced to evacuate their homes in north London after the fire brigade ruled that their blocks were unsafe.

The Department for Communities said in a statement that 60 high rise buildings across 25 local authority areas had now failed the tests.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-fire-safety-idUSKBN19G0QP?il=0



So very sad that all those innocent people had to die to draw attention to this problem.
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Sixty high-rise buildings fail safety tests after London fire: UK government (Original Post) steve2470 Jun 2017 OP
I hope the city is paying the expenses of the evacuees. Mosby Jun 2017 #1
The way Grenfell Tower survivors have been treated by the authorities.... T_i_B Jun 2017 #13
Just the invisible bloody hand of The Unrestrained Free Market at work. eppur_se_muova Jun 2017 #2
Next time someone rails against regulations bigworld Jun 2017 #3
Is this public housing? OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #4
Coin operated gas and electricity meters canetoad Jun 2017 #6
Ok perhaps for the haves OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #7
Hard-wired alarms maybe? nt canetoad Jun 2017 #9
Batteries? dixiegrrrrl Jun 2017 #11
May be a matter of interpretation. Igel Jun 2017 #15
It's possible to put them on different circuits. Igel Jun 2017 #16
That's outrageous ailsagirl Jun 2017 #5
GENTRIFICATION? OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #8
According to the BBC a few days ago Warpy Jun 2017 #10
With blocks failing safety checks, UK's May calls for more tests Eugene Jun 2017 #12
Not wholly surprised.... T_i_B Jun 2017 #14

T_i_B

(14,740 posts)
13. The way Grenfell Tower survivors have been treated by the authorities....
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:28 PM
Jun 2017

...has been nothing short of disgraceful.

eppur_se_muova

(36,271 posts)
2. Just the invisible bloody hand of The Unrestrained Free Market at work.
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 02:07 PM
Jun 2017

As long as cheaters prosper, they will continue to cheat, no matter how short-term the prosperity.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
4. Is this public housing?
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 02:28 PM
Jun 2017

There are youtube vids of deplorable, mold infested units.

And here is something we can look forward to if the Deplorables maintain control:

Electricity for the poor entails a pay-as-you-go vending machine in each unit. The poor have to pay in advance for electricity. Many can only afford an hour or two a day. There are youtube videos of that heartless policy too.

canetoad

(17,169 posts)
6. Coin operated gas and electricity meters
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 03:01 PM
Jun 2017

Have been common in the UK for decades. Before we came to Australia in the 60s, I remember going to Scotland to visit my grandparents and hearing the cry, "Quick, a shilling for the meter...."

Most people existed quite happily with the system; I would almost welcome it here, now. PAYG, in my opinion is preferable to being hit with a $400 -$500 bill each quarter.

It's not only the UK that uses metered utilities. Holiday rental houses in France, Spain, Netherlands are often fitted with them.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
7. Ok perhaps for the haves
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 03:22 PM
Jun 2017

I find it preposterous that rich England is up with people NOT having electricity. What operates fire alarms if there is no electricity?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. Batteries?
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 04:35 PM
Jun 2017

Specifically to Grenfell, it had recently been updated, and the management company stated the residents did not want fire alarms in the common area, like hallways, but in their apts.

Also I read that some residents are disagreeing with that statement.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
15. May be a matter of interpretation.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 09:30 AM
Jun 2017

If I have my students vote and then I say, "The students voted against this" there will be some student who object and say they opposed it.

For them, "The students" seems to mean every single student, when there's the possibility of it imputing something to them that they didn't want. (If they're on the winning side then of course it's "the students" who decided, and those who disagreed lost and should just STFU. Take this asymmetry as entailed by human nature and applying not just to my classroom but to national elections, national polls, conusmer surveys, and council housing meetings.)

Igel

(35,320 posts)
16. It's possible to put them on different circuits.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 10:26 AM
Jun 2017

Then again, if that happened some people would just tap those circuits if they were rated for a high-enough load. If they were tapped out, then the fire alarms wouldn't work.

Warpy

(111,283 posts)
10. According to the BBC a few days ago
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 04:07 PM
Jun 2017

some of those buildings will be evacuated. There's no news about where people are supposed to go or what will happen to the London real estate so conveniently depopulated.

Still, I'd rather live in a tent or the subway for a few months than risk being barbecued/killed by cyanide.

Eugene

(61,909 posts)
12. With blocks failing safety checks, UK's May calls for more tests
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 11:32 AM
Jun 2017

Source: Reuters

WORLD NEWS | Mon Jun 26, 2017 | 8:47am EDT

With blocks failing safety checks, UK's May calls for more tests

British Prime Minister Theresa May appealed to landlords of high-rise buildings on Monday to allow potentially flammable building material to be tested, seeking to reassure residents after a tower block fire killed 79 people in London.

The Grenfell Tower blaze, which trapped dozens of people in their beds, has become a focus of anger at the Conservative government's austerity cuts and the perceived slow response in trying to look after those who escaped.

It was "concerning" that 100 percent of tests done on the "cladding" -- panels placed on the outside of buildings -- from 60 high-rise blocks in England had failed combustibility checks, May's spokesman said.

May, who scored a deal with a Northern Irish party to prop up her minority government on Monday, wants to repair her authority by showing leadership in dealing with the aftermath of the June 14 Grenfell disaster, but faces criticism by her political opponents.

"Clearly it's concerning, concerning for residents who are living in these blocks," the spokesman told reporters at a regular government briefing.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-fire-concern-idUSKBN19H162

T_i_B

(14,740 posts)
14. Not wholly surprised....
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:32 PM
Jun 2017

....as I might have mentioned in the UK forum, the tower blocks left near me have all been cladded to make them better insulated and less hideously ugly, and there is a good chance that some of these will have the inferior quality cladding.

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