Then, the ambulance techs will do whatever they can, and the ER staff will likewise do their best. All this will happen whether or not you have insurance, just like today, just like before the ACA.

The tab for all this, if you have no insurance, will be YUGE.

I think the change to the senate's bill means that, while you're waiting for the ambulance to arrive, you can't sign up for insurance that will cover the impending expenses.

it's much better to lock healthy people in than to lock sick people out.


under obamacare, healthy people aren't even "locked" in, they merely get an incentive to stay in.


but the sick people locked? many will suffer, many will go bankrupt, many will lose their jobs, and many will die.

but, hey, how else can adelson get his $40 million tax cut?

Making money by forcing people to bet whether they will get sick or not.

It is immoral that a country with the resources we have runs their health care industry in the manner that we do.

Especially when one considers that the unhealthy are likely to be/become unemployed.....

the man is the head of household and takes care of his dependents.

that's the extent of their thinking in terms of how people who aren't employed should get health care.

OMG what a loaded term.

just don't matter. People lose their jobs only when healthy, right? These assholes are so convinced that everyone is a cheater like them.

Healthy people waiting until sick to buy insurance is what a Republican would do.

Seeing as this bill puts preexisting conditions back into the marketplace. Mitch must think we're all as dumb as the people who keep electing him.

What an utterly worthless excuse for a human being, let alone a Public Servant.

these folks when they do re enroll? Know in the House Bill,that provision was in their.

It is a strange penalty.
I think the surcharge is better. I know Medicare B has a surcharge.

My question deals with those who let their Policies Lapse. Do remember a stipulation where a Insurance Carrier can and would in most cases Surcharge you a 30% or more penalty for the Lapse of payments. And in this POS,there is similiar language which read is vague at best.

Again,this whole thing is two pronged. Anthem BC and Cigna will merge(38 Billion tax free merger),1.1 Trillion dollar Tax break for the 400 riches families.

The House bill has the 30% surcharge.

I've been researching this bill all weekend. It became quite evident there was absolutely no penalty at all. I read many articles that were sounding alarm bells:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/22/15856114/senate-health-bill-death-spiral


The WaPo has a great graphic, but behind a paywall:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/23/republicans-say-the-health-insurance-market-is-in-a-death-spiral-their-bill-could-make-it-really-happen/?utm_term=.7555955f6ce0

would remain. One of McConnell's so called aides commented to the fact these penalties would remain in reconciliation.

have no honor

n/t

My younger brother was seeing blood in his stool but ignored it too long because he was uninsured. They put him on medicaid and covered him immediately but because he had waited the cancer spread and killed him after 2 1/2 years of horrendously expensive medical care. He was merely foolish-he could easily have gotten medicaid earlier, but now they are building a system to cause thousands of Jeffs-people who (rightly) suspect something is fixing to kill them who will let the something run wild for six months untreated rather than causing a pre-existing condition by having it checked. The people who wrote this bill should be tied down in a room of starving weasels.

she was sick but no insurance, so she didn't see a doctor and didn't see a doctor until she nearly died. it was pneumonia and it destroyed her lungs. after 4 years of suffering, at least 3 near death experiences with extended hospital stays, and a suicide attempt, her suffering finally came to an end last December. She was 61 years old and we were friends all of our lives. The cost of her care will never be paid by her family if they live to be 1,000 years old.

I'm so sorry about the loss of your brother. Health care in this country is perverse and cruel.

the Turtle will probably go back into his shell to hide from the press.

The "five GOP senators who are publicly opposed to the current legislation" are not the only ones the Turtle has to convince to vote "yea" on this heartless, cruel, tax-breaks-for-the-wealthy POS "health-care-bill,"
He also has several GOP senators who are undecided, such as Bill Cassidy (R-LA), who is considered a "crucial vote" and whose state recently expanded Medicaid,
as well as Jerry Moran of Kansas, "usually a reliable vote for Senate Republican leaders," who said on Fox News: "I just don't know whether the votes will be there by the end of the week."
(6/25, NYT article: "Senate Leaders Try to Appease Members as Support for Health Bill Slips&quot


K&R, thanks for posting

He also made it costlier when your stage 1 cancer goes to stage 4 over those 6 months.

Namely, the coercive euthanizing of all poor and minority people.

words they fully intend to pass this shit and are trying to lull the gullible into thinking that some of them actually care about anyone other than those that earn 250,000 or more a year.

... they'd roll a gurney down the Senate aisle so he could vote. And much fanfare would ensue.

That is, of course, if he was going to vote "Aye". If not, McConnell will let him stay in the hospital.