McCains Surgery May Be More Serious Than Thought, Experts Say
Source: New York Times
The condition for which Senator John McCain had surgery on Friday may be more serious than initial descriptions have implied, and it may delay his return to Washington by at least a week or two, medical experts said on Sunday.
The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, has already announced that votes on a bill to dismantle the Affordable Care Act will not begin until Mr. McCains return. A statement released by Mr. McCains office on Saturday had suggested that he would be in Arizona recovering for just this week, but neurosurgeons interviewed said the typical recovery period could be longer.
The statement from Mr. McCains office said a two-inch blood clot was removed from above his left eye during a minimally invasive craniotomy with an eyebrow incision at the Mayo Clinic Hospital in Phoenix, following a routine annual physical. Surgeons there are not conducting interviews, and Mr. McCains communications director, Julie Tarallo, said no further information was available.
A craniotomy is an opening of the skull, and an eyebrow incision would be used to reach a clot in or near the left frontal lobes of the brain, neurosurgeons who were not involved in Mr. McCains care said.
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pnwmom
(108,980 posts)truthisfreedom
(23,148 posts)mwooldri
(10,303 posts)No need to rush back to the Senate. Take all the time you need to recuperate. But definitely get well.
lostnfound
(16,184 posts)It would be good to finish his years in the Senate returning to his roots as a brave patriot.
Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)PCIntern
(25,556 posts)clots do not form magically.
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Jacoby365
(451 posts)In fact, the initial press report I read indicated they are doing a biopsy.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,007 posts)PCIntern
(25,556 posts)samnsara
(17,622 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,299 posts)well-earned retirement.
As bad as McCain is his replacement would be far worse
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Mark Kelley would win if he would run.
Trump only won by 3% in AZ
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)mainer
(12,022 posts)A slowly expanding subdural hematoma that muddled his thinking?
MrPurple
(985 posts)mitch96
(13,912 posts)The confusion might have gotten the surgeons worried.. It's possible he just popped a small blood vessel in the frontal lobe (the personality,cognition) and again it would be a wait and see. No history of trauma. The thing that concerns me is that "two inches above the eye" is about at the frontal hair line.
That's way up there. If things were really weird he would be in surgery with a burr hole in his head, blood removed and a drain in place. None of that occurred. I like the minimally invasive eyebrow trick. Prolly just a tiny hole (craniotomy) and snake a tube up there to suck out the blood..
Just my opinion as a previous medical worker, YMMV...
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tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Not two inches above the eye.
mitch96
(13,912 posts)I stand corrected, I was quoting old news.... The eyebrow craniotomy would be a straight shot in to suck out the clot. Right at the floor of the frontal fossa above the eye...
Hope he makes it ok....
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Docreed2003
(16,863 posts)If I had to guess, I bet this is a new intracranial hemorrhage and dollars to donuts it's related to a metastatic lesion from melanoma. Just my 2c trying to read the tea leaves as a medical person
mitch96
(13,912 posts)True. I've seen plenty of CT scans of grannies that had old subdurals that no one knew about. New ones also. Sometimes it would cause more problems to go in than to just wait and see... I'd love to see McCain's CT scan...
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global1
(25,253 posts)at a hearing and he wasn't making any sense. We were in a car listening to the hearing and when we heard him being incoherent I said it sounded like he has some serious medical problem with his brain.
Has anybody else commented on that?
forgotmylogin
(7,530 posts)The blood flow to his brain may have actually been reduced.
McCain's physical body is trying to thwart ACA repeal...
democrank
(11,096 posts)A full and speedy recovery
Towlie
(5,324 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)mountain grammy
(26,624 posts)FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)The Senators and House Reps get their shit taken care of, no matter what they do to us.
They get Obamacare, even when it's taken away from their constituents.
BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)Do they give a shit about my death sentence, my family, or my bankruptcy????
Answer is NO, NO, and NO!
BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)Do they give a shit about my death sentence, my family, or my bankruptcy????
Answer is NO, NO, and NO!
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Which of his 5 homes will he be recovering at? I knew something HAD to be wrong when he was not appearing on any of the Sunday talk shows.
populistdriven
(5,644 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)My dad had an aortic anuerysm and his doc just monitored it until it got to 5cm, then they did surgery. AFAIK, that was standard treatment. McCain has had melanoma. I'm sure he's been checked every 6 mos and maybe it was noticed during one of those check ups and monitored until it grew big enough to require surgery.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)I'm guessing something worse than an aneurism, most likely melanoma mets. Just wait for the pathology report to be sure. But send him to Emory to get the treatment that Jimmy Carter got.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)nt
global1
(25,253 posts)but 1. What kind of health insurance does he have? ACA maybe?
And
2. Did Ben Carson do the surgery?
NJCher
(35,687 posts)I'm pretty sure I heard Al Franken say that's what they have.
Cher
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Trump care is so shitty they don't want to force Congress members to have to buy it.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)indeed I do
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)however, part of me wishes that the good senators would realize that medicine is a matter of life and death, and that we have a lot more to lose than they do, as many have no access to doctors, period.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)the Federal government should have any role in providing healthcare. OK, fine--just apply the same standard to congress. Of course, McCain's wife is wealthy, so he would have been covered in any event.
no_hypocrisy
(46,122 posts)talking jibberish in the Senate.
Maybe it was the blood clot affecting his ability to speak.
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)I forgot about that. Very likely a precursor.
JI7
(89,252 posts)VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)I'm not a physician and I don't play one on teevee. However, I am an Advanced Life Support EMT and I've seen my share of hemorrhagic strokes . . . not pretty.
There are two types of stroke.
1. The most common, an ischemic stroke, occurs when one or more arteries in the brain or carrying blood to the brain become(s) blocked, completely or partially. Ischemic strokes are the most common, accounting for about 93% of strokes. Depending on the degree of blockage, location of the blockage, and time that passes between the blockage and medical treatment, the effects of ischemic strokes can be treated and overcome.
2. Hemorrhagic strokes -- a brain bleed -- are another story. The brain is covered by a membrane, the dura. A blood vessel either above or below the dura can burst, flooding the area with blood. Because the skull is solid, as blood builds up between the skull and the brain, pressure is exerted on the brain. The effects of a brain bleed can be felt almost instantly, or, can take days to show up. Hemorrhagic strokes often are fatal. The only way to fix it is to go through the skull and relieve the pressure on the brain . . . not something we can do in the back of an ambulance.
Sounds to me as though McCain had either (1) a serious ischemic stroke with a clot that blocked blood flow to some part of the brain; or, (2) a hemorrhagic stroke in which blood flowed into the cranial area between the skull and the brain, then, clotted, still exerting pressure on the brain.
I don't know about his meds -- at his age, he may have been on a blood thinner (Plavix, Coumadin). If not, he will be now. There may be more clots. No doubt they did several CT scans to check for other clots and they may have injected clot-busting drugs (TPAs). On the other hand, if this was an "old clot" -- an embolic clot that formed in the heart then traveled to the brain, TPAs don't do much good.
Either way, he is not healthy. He'd better be happy he has the Gold-Plated Congressional Health Insurance Plan.
CountAllVotes
(20,876 posts)And yes, you are correct. This is not good!
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Can people recover from such a large clot?
mitch96
(13,912 posts)I agree with this one... just a little leaker that stopped..
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Hieronymus
(6,039 posts)then said it was on the brain.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)at the Senate Intelligence hearing with Comey.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Possible, to commit a final act.
Vinca
(50,278 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)Hieronymus
(6,039 posts)just said it was a craniotomy.
They removed the bone at his eyebrow to remove a mass.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)a hemorrhagic stroke is something else. Or it could be both.
Jimbo S
(2,958 posts)voted for Obama back in 2008, one small part was a chance McCain wouldn't live out one full term. Many Americans back then felt that way and was a small campaign issue.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Senator McCain recovers from surgery PAID for by having a policy through the ACA.
Does that IDIOT Turtle not understand the HYPOCRISY each time he says this or implies this??