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riversedge

(70,273 posts)
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 07:43 PM Jul 2017

The Latest: Descendants remember victims of witch trials

Source: Chron.com/AP


Updated 6:05 pm, Wednesday, July 19, 2017



SALEM, Mass. (AP) — The Latest on the dedication of a memorial to the 19 people hanged during the Salem witch trials in Massachusetts 325 years ago (all times local):

4 p.m.

Descendants of some of the 19 people who were hanged during the Salem witch trials have attended the dedication of a memorial at the site of the executions.

One of the descendants, Jeffrey Stark, said Wednesday the memorial "brings justice to the fact that they were wrongly accused."

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Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/The-Latest-Memorial-to-victims-of-witch-trials-11300003.php




Hard to believe this happened in the U.S. In the time-frame of humans--325 years does not seem all that long ago.







The Massachusetts community where 20 people suspected of witchcraft were put to death in 1692 unveiled a memorial to 19 of those victims on Wednesday, promising never to forget the tragedy. (July 19)
Media: Associated Press
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The Latest: Descendants remember victims of witch trials (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2017 OP
SALEM yuiyoshida Jul 2017 #1
Allow Me to Quote the Official Position of The Spanish Inquisition on Witches Wolf Frankula Jul 2017 #2
When I clicked on this thread... Dr. Strange Jul 2017 #17
The ones hung as witches obviously weren't witches. tclambert Jul 2017 #3
An interesting amateur article about one family's involvement in the Salem and Andover trials GeoWilliam750 Jul 2017 #4
Looks interesting. Thanks. Book marked for later. riversedge Jul 2017 #6
Some things never change sandensea Jul 2017 #5
I am a descendant of Mary Bradbury who was convicted but escaped, and also sheriff George Corwin wishstar Jul 2017 #7
Did you grow up knowing the relationships, or discover them through research? CBHagman Jul 2017 #8
I am glad your ancestor was able to escape. I would love to hear more. smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #9
I'm also descended from Mary Perkins and her husband Thomas Bradbury chowder66 Jul 2017 #11
Wow, what a fascinating family tree you have! smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #12
Most of my lines are dead ends but learning about them chowder66 Jul 2017 #18
Thank you! smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #20
You're welcome! : ) .nt chowder66 Jul 2017 #21
Ray Bradbury, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Christopher Reeve are descendants of Mary and Thomas too wishstar Jul 2017 #19
Susannah North Martin HeiressofBickworth Jul 2017 #10
Time frames are relative. Igel Jul 2017 #13
Hard to believe this was because humans had religion 325 years ago... snooper2 Jul 2017 #14
If one adhere to that theory alone and denies all others... LanternWaste Jul 2017 #15
They were Conservative Christians rockfordfile Jul 2017 #16

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
2. Allow Me to Quote the Official Position of The Spanish Inquisition on Witches
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 08:04 PM
Jul 2017

There are NO witches.

If anyone says they are a witch, they are deluded.

If anyone says someone else is a witch, they are a liar.

Wolf

Dr. Strange

(25,921 posts)
17. When I clicked on this thread...
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:39 PM
Jul 2017

I wasn't expecting the Official Position of The Spanish Inquisition on Witches!

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
3. The ones hung as witches obviously weren't witches.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 09:01 PM
Jul 2017

If you try to hang an actual witch, everyone else chokes.

wishstar

(5,271 posts)
7. I am a descendant of Mary Bradbury who was convicted but escaped, and also sheriff George Corwin
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:05 PM
Jul 2017

Accused "witch" Mary Bradbury and High Sheriff George Corwin are two of my ancestors and I am also descended from victim Susannah Martin's husband George Martin and his daughter (her stepdaughter). My last visit to Salem was 4 years ago, and I had not heard about this new memorial.

Thanks for posting!

CBHagman

(16,987 posts)
8. Did you grow up knowing the relationships, or discover them through research?
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:32 PM
Jul 2017

I'm fascinated by history and genealogy, and I've always been saddened by the story of Salem. Many years I visited the town, not as a relative of the accused but to see the historic sites myself and acknowledge the wrongly accused. I wondered how many families hid their connections and how many were forthright about them.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. I am glad your ancestor was able to escape. I would love to hear more.
Wed Jul 19, 2017, 10:40 PM
Jul 2017

If you care to tell about it. If not, that's ok. I live in the area and I am fascinated by the stories.

chowder66

(9,074 posts)
11. I'm also descended from Mary Perkins and her husband Thomas Bradbury
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:04 AM
Jul 2017

My great great grandmother was a Bradbury. I found the ancestors while looking up the wrong Bradbury for my mother while I was in London many many moons ago. I have copies of some original documents from the Guild Hall Library and have seen them come online as others have traveled and obtained them. They were a big family so everyone is probably descended from them, okay maybe not everyone but a lot of people are.

Here are a few articles on the family and salem.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1997/4/2/to-set-the-record-straight-on/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Bradbury
http://www.ctmcm.com/Genealogy/MaryWitch.html

I did some digging in the National Archives on the Bradbury's to see if I could take them back further and found some entries on the only Bradburrie family in the area. I think is was around 1100 and they were the last family to 'come out of the woods' and purchased some land that was 'already occupied by a sheep and a goose'....

: )

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. Wow, what a fascinating family tree you have!
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 02:58 AM
Jul 2017

Such illustrious descendants! I have always wanted to learn more about my ancestors, but didn't really know where to start. I suppose it would take a bit of time and money to research it thoroughly.

chowder66

(9,074 posts)
18. Most of my lines are dead ends but learning about them
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 08:17 PM
Jul 2017

is interesting. This family is one that belongs to the 1st 500 families which there was extensive genealogy already done on them. I think there is a book on it called The First 500 Families but I'm not sure if it's in publication.
You can always start for free in Family Search. You can get a free account and review documents, etc. From there many cities and towns have genealogy sites with records or indexes to records on families. Sometimes it will give you clues or actual info.

I will warn. It can be both highly addictive and frustrating. : )

wishstar

(5,271 posts)
19. Ray Bradbury, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Christopher Reeve are descendants of Mary and Thomas too
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 09:07 PM
Jul 2017

My family wasn't aware of our ancestry until I started doing genealogy research several years ago. But we had all visited Salem and my brother even moved to the area to take a job many years ago and his house is within walking distance of an old cemetery where several victims are buried.

My great- grandfather was a Perkins/Bradbury descendant while his wife, my great- grandmother was descendant of High Sheriff George Corwin (grandson of John Winthrop Jr.) who died at age 30 allegedly from combined stress of carrying out the arrests and executions and the subsequent public backlash.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
10. Susannah North Martin
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:35 AM
Jul 2017

Susannah North Martin was my 8th great grandmother. I never heard any family stories of being descended from a hanged witch but I discovered her in my research. Her story has been well-documented. Usual story -- vulnerable widow, valuable land, envious neighbors. She was 71 when she died on July 19, 1692. It seems once accused, guilty verdict was usually assured.

Igel

(35,337 posts)
13. Time frames are relative.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:42 AM
Jul 2017

I don't think of the Jurassic as being all that long ago.

On the other hand, I find that my childhood, just 45 years ago, seems an eternity away.

325 years. In 325 years, it's fairly certain nobody will know you ever lived--or, if they do, it'll be as a name and some numbers (SS number, birth/death dates). They may associate a fact with you.

The same could be said of any of us in half that time. My son will know little about my parents or his mother's father, and never met any of his great-grandparents--the last one bought him a present a couple of months after he was born and before she could get it in the mail from California she died. He still has great-aunts around, but we're in Texas and they're in Maryland and Washington--vertices of a giant triangle touching all three coasts. He'll never meet them.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
14. Hard to believe this was because humans had religion 325 years ago...
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:11 PM
Jul 2017

Oh wait, humans still believe in that stuff today LOL

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. If one adhere to that theory alone and denies all others...
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:23 PM
Jul 2017

Religion caused the rivalry between a village and a town? That being merely one of almost ten valid theories in academia...

It's also hard to believe that even the most strident skeptic sees religion as a cause to every conflict rather than simply another justification used by national leaders (which is I think, a dogma in its own right...)

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