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Sedona

(3,769 posts)
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:50 PM Jul 2017

The President of the United States thinks health insurance costs $12 per year

Source: Think Progress

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Earlier Wednesday, Trump also said that under the Senate’s (currently non-existent) health care plan, people would have better protections for pre-existing conditions than they did under the Affordable Care Act.


Other comments from Trump’s interview with the Times reveal that the president might not understand what health insurance is.
“Because you are basically saying from the moment the insurance, you’re 21 years old, you start working and you’re paying $12 a year for insurance,” Trump said, “and by the time you’re 70, you get a nice plan. Here’s something where you walk up and say, ‘I want my insurance.’”


The comment has mostly gotten flack for Trump’s comment that health insurance costs just $12 a month, but, at least for some people, he’s not actually wrong. There are people in the United States who are on Medicaid or receive large subsidies under the ACA who pay less than $12 a year for insurance.



Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/president-trump-doesnt-really-know-how-health-insurance-works-a5150312d351



Not surprised....... what a fucking moran.
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The President of the United States thinks health insurance costs $12 per year (Original Post) Sedona Jul 2017 OP
Also, that's life insurance, not health insurance. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2017 #1
I suppose back in the day they sold discount plans that didn't cover anything IronLionZion Jul 2017 #2
I am really not at all surprised. LiberalArkie Jul 2017 #3
In 1981 my healthcare was $30 a month with a $20 co pay and I paid the full price for prescriptions kimbutgar Jul 2017 #4
Correct me if I'm wrong; but the cost of insurance seemed to rise mostly gradually - until... sandensea Jul 2017 #8
Exactly, it started under Raygun kimbutgar Jul 2017 #9
I see. Thanks! sandensea Jul 2017 #11
Multiply $12 (and he said /yr not /mo) by $1000 and you may be in the ballpark. Hugin Jul 2017 #5
Just what I was going to say dragonlady Jul 2017 #12
My silver plan from the Healthcare Exchange Staph Jul 2017 #19
Sounds like he's hybrid health insurance and life insurance bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #6
the idiots who voted for him will believe anything the con says. nt elmac Jul 2017 #7
Wow! If only!!! Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2017 #10
wouldn't that be nice demtenjeep Jul 2017 #13
I was thinking Lucille Bluth from Arrested Development. christx30 Jul 2017 #20
Trump (I do not use his title) TNNurse Jul 2017 #14
I can't even use his name - I call him 45, though that's moonscape Jul 2017 #18
Seriously, how did he get this number into his lead-lined cranium? politicat Jul 2017 #15
Do they advertise on FOX? If so, I'd say you hit the nail on the head. Tanuki Jul 2017 #24
He isn't the only one. How many politicians or CEOs know Catmusicfan Jul 2017 #16
He's so wrong for this job. truthisfreedom Jul 2017 #17
I don't think the moron understands insurance under ACA is based on INCOME off your IRS REPORT. Sunlei Jul 2017 #21
The President? gilligan Jul 2017 #22
We MUST get rid of this idiot and the GOP now and forever...but how? BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #23
Maybe this was Donald's plan the whole time. briv1016 Jul 2017 #25
Trump gets Medicare doesn't he? delisen Jul 2017 #26
He's thinking his own life insurance 50 years ago when he was 21 unblock Jul 2017 #27

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,600 posts)
1. Also, that's life insurance, not health insurance.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:54 PM
Jul 2017
Donal Trump doesn't know the difference between health insurance and life insurance, it seems. Please RT.



IronLionZion

(45,523 posts)
2. I suppose back in the day they sold discount plans that didn't cover anything
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:57 PM
Jul 2017

and had a very low annual cap on what the insurance would pay for. If any sort of surgery or major expense would be needed you're not covered. That garbage would have a low premium.

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
3. I am really not at all surprised.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:58 PM
Jul 2017

The company I retired from thought that the employee match on the corporate insurance was only about $10 a month. These executive types just everything from what they do. That was all he had to pay for a no deductible on anything no copay on anything. Including eyes and hearing aides and full dental.

They have never been at the bottom of the food chain. They just do not know.

kimbutgar

(21,185 posts)
4. In 1981 my healthcare was $30 a month with a $20 co pay and I paid the full price for prescriptions
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:04 PM
Jul 2017

I was only 25 then and at the time this was a lot of money.

Just another example of how out of touch the drumpster fire is. He has no clue how people are struggling out there and why the ACA came to be because of medical bill bankrupticies. I heard that they have gone way down since the ACA. I guess Putin wants the AmericN people to become indentured servants to debt.

kimbutgar

(21,185 posts)
9. Exactly, it started under Raygun
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jul 2017

My parents used to pay for their own hmo out of pocket then it became in the 80's more expensive. Luckily my Dad got a job with the city that paid for his and my mother's healthcare and I had a job that paid for my mine then. I am shocked at how many people I know who no longer get company paid healthcare.

sandensea

(21,661 posts)
11. I see. Thanks!
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:26 PM
Jul 2017

You're great to your share first-person experience on this subject - especially with those of us not quite old enough to remember cost-of-living trends from that far back.

Your anecdote matches what I've heard from my parents: that under Reagan, energy inflation declined (thanks mostly to Carter's energy policy, which popped the OPEC bubble) - but that inflation on services tended to far outstrip wage hikes.

My personal recollection of the Dubya regime, as far as health/insurance, is that those costs - which seemed to be under control under Clinton - more than doubled in the 2000s.

Wages, of course, barely budged.

dragonlady

(3,577 posts)
12. Just what I was going to say
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:48 PM
Jul 2017

The last year before the ACA kicked in I paid $1,000 a month for an individual policy, which was obviously inferior to ACA coverage.

Staph

(6,253 posts)
19. My silver plan from the Healthcare Exchange
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 03:47 PM
Jul 2017

is over $1000 per month. For just me.

I'm terrified at how high it could go if the Republicans get their way.


bucolic_frolic

(43,276 posts)
6. Sounds like he's hybrid health insurance and life insurance
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 01:08 PM
Jul 2017

Put aside $12 a month (note: he did say "year&quot for 50 years and let
the equity build, then you get health care?

They're ready to steal everything we own

christx30

(6,241 posts)
20. I was thinking Lucille Bluth from Arrested Development.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 03:53 PM
Jul 2017
I mean, it's one banana, Michael. What could it cost? 10 dollars?"


Rich people are totally out of touch with how much things cost.

TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
14. Trump (I do not use his title)
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 02:42 PM
Jul 2017

is an ignorant self-involved man. He has no qualifications for the job he now holds.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
18. I can't even use his name - I call him 45, though that's
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 03:40 PM
Jul 2017

an admission he is president which is painful. Maybe I'll resort to 'it'

politicat

(9,808 posts)
15. Seriously, how did he get this number into his lead-lined cranium?
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 02:47 PM
Jul 2017

My best bet is he's heard a Gerber infant LIFE insurance commercial recently, because Gerber runs around $12 a month for new babies, and is advertised towards grandparents on daytime television. Gerber Whole Life is fairly cheap, because babies are pretty cheap to insure and don't require very large policies (they don't usually have mortgages or children to put through college).

But it's a ridiculous number.

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
24. Do they advertise on FOX? If so, I'd say you hit the nail on the head.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 07:33 PM
Jul 2017

That's where he gets all of his misinformation.

Catmusicfan

(816 posts)
16. He isn't the only one. How many politicians or CEOs know
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 03:17 PM
Jul 2017

how much I a gallon of milk is or how much $20 buys in food now at days? Some forget or NEVER had to rob Peter to pay Paul.

Just remember not everyone has access to farmer's markets at least in the area I live in. It is on a week night evening most working poor I know are working to go.

Some have to decide (like elderly people I once worked for.) Do they buy food or keep the lights on? Friends a single mother she had to pick medicine for her cold or giving the her child the money to participate in a school activity.

This is a fucked up country. My friend lives in France and she says her biggest nightmare is having to come back to live in America. She is not rich but between her husband's full time job and her part time job they live VERY comfortably.


truthisfreedom

(23,154 posts)
17. He's so wrong for this job.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 03:22 PM
Jul 2017

Totally clueless as to what average Americans face. Just completely out of touch.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
21. I don't think the moron understands insurance under ACA is based on INCOME off your IRS REPORT.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 04:06 PM
Jul 2017

If a person makes near or close to the poverty rate OR about under 20k a year-there are BRONZE plans where the premium is zero. premium is subsidized, fully paid by government.

The free plan is very basic but you still get the ACA 'preventative' health care like a free exam, capped emergency room visit, RX discounts. and capped out of pocket costs so you don't go bankrupt, lose everything-when there is a bad accident or illness.

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
23. We MUST get rid of this idiot and the GOP now and forever...but how?
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 06:01 PM
Jul 2017

Since the 80s I have had it with their economic BS! Trickle down never works...people are selfish and greedy. That is who the GOP reps are and who they represent. I don't even want to know, let alone be acquaintances or friends, with any of them. They are vile to the core.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
25. Maybe this was Donald's plan the whole time.
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 08:16 PM
Jul 2017

He'll make a public statement that he thought this whole ACA thing was about life insurance. Of course he never wanted to screw with people's health insurance, that's something only a madman would do.

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