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BumRushDaShow

(129,621 posts)
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 06:57 PM Jul 2017

Sessions discussed Trump campaign-related matters with Russian ambassador, U.S. intelligence interce

Source: Washington Post

Full title: Sessions discussed Trump campaign-related matters with Russian ambassador, U.S. intelligence intercepts show

Russia’s ambassador to Washington told his superiors in Moscow that he discussed campaign-related matters, including policy issues important to Moscow, with Jeff Sessions during the 2016 presidential race, contrary to public assertions by the embattled attorney general, according to current and former U.S. officials.

Ambassador Sergey Kislyak’s accounts of two conversations with Sessions — then a top foreign policy adviser to Republican candidate Donald Trump — were intercepted by U.S. spy agencies, which monitor the communications of senior Russian officials both in the United States and in Russia. Sessions initially failed to disclose his contacts with Kislyak and then said that the meetings were not about the Trump campaign.

One U.S. official said that Sessions — who testified that he has no recollection of the April encounter — has provided “misleading” statements that are “contradicted by other evidence.” A former official said that the intelligence indicates that Sessions and Kislyak had “substantive” discussions on matters including Trump’s positions on Russia-related issues and prospects for U.S.-Russia relations in a Trump administration.

Sessions has said repeatedly that he never discussed campaign-related issues with Russian officials and that it was only in his capacity as a U.S. Senator that he met with Kislyak.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-discussed-trump-campaign-related-matters-with-russian-ambassador-us-intelligence-intercepts-show/2017/07/21/3e704692-6e44-11e7-9c15-177740635e83_story.html



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Sessions discussed Trump campaign-related matters with Russian ambassador, U.S. intelligence interce (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 OP
Heh Jeff,,,, Cryptoad Jul 2017 #1
Wow.... Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #2
Boom deminks Jul 2017 #3
Oooo.... that boom is bigger than the egg one BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #6
What many on the trump train don't seem to get is that Putin wants chaos NightWatcher Jul 2017 #4
Excellent Point bitterross Jul 2017 #34
Fucking TRAITOR Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #5
Go WaPo! mobeau69 Jul 2017 #7
Yes it does. And I get the distinct impression janx Jul 2017 #11
The WH wanted this to get out. The article says that among their sources were WH officials. pnwmom Jul 2017 #79
I'm afraid the WH leaked this story in order to force Sessions out. pnwmom Jul 2017 #23
I was thinking the same thing TxDemChem Jul 2017 #35
Leak or not, the evidence is there. Sessions is either stupid or a liar, probably both. George II Jul 2017 #40
And yet I'd rather have him in place than some other stupid lying Attorney General pnwmom Jul 2017 #49
Mueller's investigation is independent of the AG, he was appointed after Sessions recused himself. George II Jul 2017 #51
It is only independent of the CURRENT AG, for a particular reason. If Sessions was replaced, pnwmom Jul 2017 #53
Exactly, this is all about taking down Mueller. The alternative to Sessions will be worse. MrPurple Jul 2017 #74
Yup. This has 45's gldstwmn Jul 2017 #77
My experience with southerners like Sessions is jpak Jul 2017 #8
My experience has shown them to be very proud of their integrity, Enoki33 Jul 2017 #69
He's a fucking weasel that can't recall a fucking thing jpak Jul 2017 #72
He testified in Congress too... FarPoint Jul 2017 #9
There has got to be some repercussions for this deception on Session's part. Mrs. Overall Jul 2017 #10
He was here in Philly today BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #16
Glad to hear he is being protested. Mrs. Overall Jul 2017 #18
Love the poster. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #26
These folks have some clever posters! BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #31
+1000 sheshe2 Jul 2017 #33
I don't remember, I don't think we met, he might have been there, but I don't remember meeting Miles Archer Jul 2017 #12
Amazing that Sessions would be so stupid as to believe... thesquanderer Jul 2017 #13
And he still probably won't resign. OliverQ Jul 2017 #14
cnn having a good discussion about this now *Tapper. with Sen Blumenthal riversedge Jul 2017 #15
I am so confused, does 45 love him or hate him? BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #17
I think they will eventually turn on each other. Mrs. Overall Jul 2017 #19
Looks like it's every rat for themselves time. mobeau69 Jul 2017 #24
Drumpf only loves you BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #20
He's being used gldstwmn Jul 2017 #78
tr-dump thought Sessions would be blindly loyal without reservation. magicarpet Jul 2017 #80
What would prevent him from turning on the Donald in return. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #82
He would probably need a plea deal for himself to do that BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #88
that's inconsequential green917 Jul 2017 #97
Lock him up. In a gulag. Appropriate. kairos12 Jul 2017 #21
Guantanamo. George II Jul 2017 #47
Maybe the current US officials leaked this story to try to force Sessions out pnwmom Jul 2017 #22
That won't happen. Mueller's on his own until he's fired. mobeau69 Jul 2017 #27
That's not true, unfortunately. A new Attorney General would oversee Mueller's work on the pnwmom Jul 2017 #29
Mueller won't stand for any interference. mobeau69 Jul 2017 #36
He wouldn't have to be fired. But the new AG could direct the probe pnwmom Jul 2017 #52
They want him out Johnny2X2X Jul 2017 #25
My, my, my. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #28
Sessions is hanging on by his finger nails as Trump pushes him out of the life boat. jalan48 Jul 2017 #30
Bingo! Duppers Jul 2017 #37
So what's in it for Kislyak to disclose this stuff? Amaryllis Jul 2017 #32
He didn't. The phone call was monitored by IA. n/t mobeau69 Jul 2017 #38
Thanks. Just got online....so much to catch up on. Amaryllis Jul 2017 #54
Friday news dump. nt BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #56
EVery day news dump, increasingly...I have blocked myself from DU until 5 PM so i get work Amaryllis Jul 2017 #57
And it's exhausting. BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #58
Yeah. I start to feel like inside my head is trashed. And not good to go to bed on all this. Amaryllis Jul 2017 #59
Agree. BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #65
That makes it hearsy. Elf can deny it. mobeau69 Jul 2017 #70
How convenient that this info comes out NOW!! Duppers Jul 2017 #39
Thing is BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #42
Sessions is a complete toady DeminPennswoods Jul 2017 #60
Correct. BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #64
Yep. This is suspicious. Sort of like emails dumped by Wiki days after Trump publicly asks for them. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #48
Let's all understand what this really is ... Jopin Klobe Jul 2017 #41
And then we have Saturday Night Massacre II. mobeau69 Jul 2017 #45
They already picked Cosmocat Jul 2017 #71
Drumpf can't "appoint another Attorney General" BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #46
I think Trump could try to do a recess appointment while Congress is away in August MrPurple Jul 2017 #75
I think the Senate permanently does pro forma sessions now BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #87
Thanks for the info MrPurple Jul 2017 #96
EXACTLY. That's what I think. Trump is in on it, and is trying to get Sessions to quit. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #50
What you describe is his issue BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #61
+1. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #62
BOOM All-In Jul 2017 #43
Wow, another liar in this administration. Who would have guessed? sinkingfeeling Jul 2017 #44
LOSER 45 wants loyalty, not so much give Motley13 Jul 2017 #55
I can't read that article (for subscribers). Is that ph. conversation dated? Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #63
The timeframe from the OP BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #66
Thanks. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #67
All these Republicans, chatting with Russian officials like it's their grandmother bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #68
+ 1,000 Achilleaze Jul 2017 #90
The issue here BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #92
Doesn't this translate into "lying" LiberalLovinLug Jul 2017 #73
Al Franken didn't even ask him if he'd had contact with Russians, Beauregard volunteered that MrPurple Jul 2017 #76
Lot of speculation that the WH leaked this to force Sessions to resign OliverQ Jul 2017 #81
This Is Why Grassley Will Be Holding Hearings Regarding the PeePee Dossier... TomCADem Jul 2017 #86
This story stinks.... Skid Rogue Jul 2017 #83
The Intercepts Were Before The Election. This Is What Lead to Recusal. However... TomCADem Jul 2017 #85
Put this on the front page please orangecrush Jul 2017 #84
The Keebler elf was actually up to no good huh? titaniumsalute Jul 2017 #89
the total sinful corrupt treasonous skulldugery of the republicans Achilleaze Jul 2017 #91
what about that Republican-trump campaign man who visited the "stolen files fence" wikileaks in 2016 Sunlei Jul 2017 #93
Now we know what trump and putin discussed Jakes Progress Jul 2017 #94
Hope this is real and just just drumpf misinformation. lark Jul 2017 #95
Sessions: 'I Have Never Met With Any Russians' on Elections Interference Botany Jul 2017 #98

Docreed2003

(16,878 posts)
2. Wow....
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:04 PM
Jul 2017

It's almost as if....Trumo knew this was coming! Lmao, how about them apples Jeff?? Your boss shit on you two days ago and you took it, and this is the thanks you get. Lmfao....

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. What many on the trump train don't seem to get is that Putin wants chaos
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:05 PM
Jul 2017

He'll destroy every one of them when they outlive their usefulness or whenever putin wants to see the US flip out.

janx

(24,128 posts)
11. Yes it does. And I get the distinct impression
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:14 PM
Jul 2017

that there are sources talking to the Post who are aware of how anxious the American people are about all of this. So they leak what they can safely leak.

pnwmom

(109,000 posts)
79. The WH wanted this to get out. The article says that among their sources were WH officials.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 10:09 PM
Jul 2017

They put this story out in order to increase the pressure on Sessions to resign. Whoever is appointed to replace him won't have to recuse him or herself from overseeing Mueller's probe -- so Mueller would be brought under Justice Dept. control.

pnwmom

(109,000 posts)
23. I'm afraid the WH leaked this story in order to force Sessions out.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:33 PM
Jul 2017

So maybe it was an easy story for WA Post -- they got it handed to them by the DT team.

pnwmom

(109,000 posts)
49. And yet I'd rather have him in place than some other stupid lying Attorney General
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:12 PM
Jul 2017

who would not be recused from the Mueller probe.

George II

(67,782 posts)
51. Mueller's investigation is independent of the AG, he was appointed after Sessions recused himself.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:13 PM
Jul 2017

pnwmom

(109,000 posts)
53. It is only independent of the CURRENT AG, for a particular reason. If Sessions was replaced,
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:15 PM
Jul 2017

then the Special Counsel would be reporting to the new AG.

A special counsel doesn't have the independence or freedom that Ken Starr did. Ken Starr answered to no one. Mueller would answer to the new AG.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
77. Yup. This has 45's
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:47 PM
Jul 2017

fingerprints all over it. Meanwhile Junior and Manafort get to testify in private. We're being played I'm afraid. It's become abundantly clear this week.

jpak

(41,760 posts)
8. My experience with southerners like Sessions is
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:12 PM
Jul 2017

They are two-faced and will smile as they gentlemanly stab you in the back.

Clue - I spent most of my adult life in the Deep South and half my relatives were born and live there.

Enoki33

(1,588 posts)
69. My experience has shown them to be very proud of their integrity,
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:03 PM
Jul 2017

whether perceived or not. Sessions displayed some of that when he was defending his so called honor. I wouldn't be surprised if he thought trump deliberately backed up the dirty bus wheels over him for there to be a way of him striking back.

Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
10. There has got to be some repercussions for this deception on Session's part.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:14 PM
Jul 2017

How can the attorney general be continuously caught lying and breaking the law?

We are in crazy land.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
12. I don't remember, I don't think we met, he might have been there, but I don't remember meeting
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:16 PM
Jul 2017

Was he there? I don't know. He could have been. There were a lot of people there! But we didn't have a meeting! If he was there, we didn't actually meet, and if we did, I don't remember it.

thesquanderer

(11,995 posts)
13. Amazing that Sessions would be so stupid as to believe...
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:18 PM
Jul 2017

...that Kislyak’s accounts of the conversations would NOT be monitored by American intelligence, so as easily to contradict any false testimony.

I would not be surprised if Mueller et al have much more that they can't say, simply because by even saying that they know things, they let the Russians know that certain things are being monitored. That may be one of the obstacles to indictment/prosecution of all this stuff.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
14. And he still probably won't resign.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:20 PM
Jul 2017

Rule of law is dead in this country.

I'm freakin tired. Can we have a reset button?

BigmanPigman

(51,638 posts)
17. I am so confused, does 45 love him or hate him?
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:22 PM
Jul 2017

If he helped the Donald out in so many ways why does he insult Sessions so much. I thought in comparison he has done more to help him than hurt him. Recusing himself from the Russian investigations and Comey crap is the only really negative "bad" thing he did to piss the Donald off.

BumRushDaShow

(129,621 posts)
20. Drumpf only loves you
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:26 PM
Jul 2017

if you worship the ground he walks on and agrees with everything he says. The moment you deviate, you're finished.

magicarpet

(14,181 posts)
80. tr-dump thought Sessions would be blindly loyal without reservation.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 10:09 PM
Jul 2017

tr-dump thought Sessions would watch tr-dump's back as job one for Sessions. As if Sessions was just another rabid insane private attorney for tr-dump. Sessions always on the lookout out and ear to the ground looking and waiting to head off legal issues coming tr-dump's way.

tr-dump intended to financially rape and pillage the US treasury to enrich himself in grand style, to include his family and crony friends - riches beyond all imagination. Sessions was to keep the oversight, ethics, justice at bay at every bend and turn so team tr-dump could walk away scot-free with all the treasure and plunder.

Once Session got caught lying during his confirmation hearings he panicked and immediately recused himself.

Once Sessions recused himself and was out of the loop to defend and protect tr-dump from his myriad of legal problems - Sessions was now useless to tr-dump and resented Sessions because he spoiled tr-dump's fool proof plan to head off any legal issues about to come tr-dump's way.

BumRushDaShow

(129,621 posts)
88. He would probably need a plea deal for himself to do that
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 06:34 AM
Jul 2017

since he is up to his eyeballs in Russia himself.

green917

(442 posts)
97. that's inconsequential
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 01:53 PM
Jul 2017

This is all about getting mueller reigned in. If sessions quits, 45 can choose a new AG that won't be forced to recuse themself from Mueller's investigation and they think they will either be able to fire Mueller or stop his investigation by controlling it at justice.

pnwmom

(109,000 posts)
22. Maybe the current US officials leaked this story to try to force Sessions out
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:31 PM
Jul 2017

so that DT can nominate someone to replace him, who won't be recused from overseeing Mueller's investigation.

pnwmom

(109,000 posts)
29. That's not true, unfortunately. A new Attorney General would oversee Mueller's work on the
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:39 PM
Jul 2017

investigation. Sessions had to recuse himself because of his campaign work, but a new Attorney General wouldn't have that problem.

A special counsel doesn't have the same independence to act as Ken Starr. But the law that allowed for Ken Starr expired a long time ago.

mobeau69

(11,159 posts)
36. Mueller won't stand for any interference.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:49 PM
Jul 2017

If he's fired the Senate pukes have to come around and appoint Mueller or his Jarworsky to finish off the Orange Traitor.

pnwmom

(109,000 posts)
52. He wouldn't have to be fired. But the new AG could direct the probe
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:13 PM
Jul 2017

and Mueller would have to answer to him or her -- or resign.

We wouldn't be better off.

jalan48

(13,894 posts)
30. Sessions is hanging on by his finger nails as Trump pushes him out of the life boat.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:40 PM
Jul 2017

Poor Jeffy really thought they were all in on it together.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
57. EVery day news dump, increasingly...I have blocked myself from DU until 5 PM so i get work
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:25 PM
Jul 2017

done during the day. Then at 5 it takes a couple hours to catch up.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
59. Yeah. I start to feel like inside my head is trashed. And not good to go to bed on all this.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:28 PM
Jul 2017

Don't sleep well if I do.

mobeau69

(11,159 posts)
70. That makes it hearsy. Elf can deny it.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:03 PM
Jul 2017

The Red would know the call was likely to be intercepted.

Either way, it's just another brick in the wall and in the long run hurts Ass Hole.

Duppers

(28,127 posts)
39. How convenient that this info comes out NOW!!
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:53 PM
Jul 2017

Just when Trump needs another excuse to fire sessions.

Think about it. Even Dana Bash (R- CNN) had the same observation.




BumRushDaShow

(129,621 posts)
42. Thing is
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:59 PM
Jul 2017

any nominee would have to go through the confirmation process and the GOP has been burning through what little credibility they had left... And given the difficulty getting Sessions in, the next nominee may have a rougher time because it will be obvious that Drumpf is shopping for a "yes man".

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
60. Sessions is a complete toady
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:29 PM
Jul 2017

and loyalist. Who could Trump get that'd be better? He can't really pull anyone out of the senate given their slim majority.

BumRushDaShow

(129,621 posts)
64. Correct.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:36 PM
Jul 2017

It depends on how clueless Drumpf is and whether Bannon has his ear and tries to force the issue. Seems the somewhat competent folks are fleeing the administration or refusing nomination requests.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
48. Yep. This is suspicious. Sort of like emails dumped by Wiki days after Trump publicly asks for them.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:10 PM
Jul 2017

This isn't evidence, really. This is hearsay. I could say that YOU said something, but that doesn't mean you DID say that. Anyone can report that someone else said something.

VERY interesting, the timing.

I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to get Sessions to quit, so Trump will HAVE to nominate a new one, and will say, "I didn't fire him. I HAVE to name a new AG, since Sessions quit."

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
41. Let's all understand what this really is ...
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 07:57 PM
Jul 2017

1. tRump can't control Sessions or fire him because the Republicans have told him it would be political suicide - for them

2. Only the Attorney General can fire the Special Prosecutor, Mueller, whilst we are in this ball of political crap

3. The Russians know this, so to help tRump, they spill on Sessions putting him in the position of possibly resigning under pressure or tRump believes that he will then be able to fire Sessions because he screwed up - even more

4. tRump appoints another Attorney General and then that flunky then fires Mueller

5. Don't tell me I'm wrong because these idiots are capable(?) of anything ...

mobeau69

(11,159 posts)
45. And then we have Saturday Night Massacre II.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:06 PM
Jul 2017

Bring it on. The pukes will finally have to pick a side; Russia or The United States.

Cosmocat

(14,575 posts)
71. They already picked
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:08 PM
Jul 2017

Joy Reid had Charlie Sykes and an ex r congressman on just now, both were completely confident Trump could fire Mueller and the rs would stick behind him.

BumRushDaShow

(129,621 posts)
46. Drumpf can't "appoint another Attorney General"
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:06 PM
Jul 2017

and have that person fire Mueller. That appointee would have to be confirmed by the Senate. He would have to find some high level flunky already in DOJ to fire Mueller, Nixon style. Rosenstein can fire Mueller however.

MrPurple

(985 posts)
75. I think Trump could try to do a recess appointment while Congress is away in August
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:23 PM
Jul 2017

But the blowback from that would be insane.

BumRushDaShow

(129,621 posts)
87. I think the Senate permanently does pro forma sessions now
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 05:48 AM
Jul 2017

and even moreso since Obama's NLRB picks to test the validity of the pro forma sessions, went to the SCOTUS, where they were unanimous in support of that gaveling in every 3 days and that being considered still being "in session".

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
50. EXACTLY. That's what I think. Trump is in on it, and is trying to get Sessions to quit.
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:13 PM
Jul 2017

But Sessions WON'T. Sessions is hitting back in not quitting, and his Deputy AG is with him on that.

I'm guessing they feel bamboozled by Trump and are sticking firm.

Once they don't work for Trump, though...I think they can rat on him. Only thing is...if they can rat on him w/o getting themselves in hot water (Sessions, not the Deputy Rosenstein).

BumRushDaShow

(129,621 posts)
61. What you describe is his issue
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:32 PM
Jul 2017

as is this an issue for many others. When they get you tied into the conspiracy somehow, you're stuck and can't rat without taking yourself down too (unless you can get a plea deal - see Flynn's attempts).

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
55. LOSER 45 wants loyalty, not so much give
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:20 PM
Jul 2017

he covers himself, others do the dirty work for him & the POS screws them bigly

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
63. I can't read that article (for subscribers). Is that ph. conversation dated?
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:34 PM
Jul 2017

Is that a NEW conversation? Or an old one from last year?

BumRushDaShow

(129,621 posts)
66. The timeframe from the OP
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:44 PM
Jul 2017
Current and former U.S. officials said that assertion is at odds with Kislyak’s accounts of conversations during two encounters over the course of the campaign, one in April ahead of Trump’s first major foreign policy speech and another in July on the sidelines of the Republican National Convention.


The reference was the Foreign Policy speech at the Mayflower Hotel in April 2016 and then at the RNC Convention in Cleveland in July 2016.

bucolic_frolic

(43,343 posts)
68. All these Republicans, chatting with Russian officials like it's their grandmother
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 08:56 PM
Jul 2017

Didn't they *KNOW* after decades in government service in Washington, that the
intelligence agencies listen, record everything as SIGINT (signal intelligence)?

I mean to say, the famous author James Bamford wrote a book about the spy agencies
in the early 1980s. There were no holes in it. You couldn't miss it.

How stupid are these people? This has been like a giant game of I DARE YOU

BumRushDaShow

(129,621 posts)
92. The issue here
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 08:45 AM
Jul 2017

is that much of what they were doing was "business-/financial-/real estate-" related, which had been going on for decades in some cases... And to dissect it and prosecute any wrong-doing required far more resources than either the NY AG or U.S. Attorney for SDNY had available.

However, what has happened is that the TFEE's nefarious underground money-laundering world has now intersected with and infiltrated into the highest levels of government, and the current Mueller investigation happens to have the resources others never had to unwind it and get to the bottom of it. Unfortunately, what Mueller's team DOESN'T have is "time" given the threat of his firing hanging over it all. I expect they are well aware of that and have set it up to deal with that eventuality (with various degrees of priorities to report out should it happen).

And actually, there are not that many "senior" members of Congress left out of the 525 total. You hear about the few but the bulk of the House are newer reps along with quite a few Senators. As it is, there was a 63-member turnover in the House after the 2010 election, and more turnover in the elections since. Senior folks like Sessions should have known better but they tend to throw their power around (and caution to the wind) after they have settled in for awhile.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,178 posts)
73. Doesn't this translate into "lying"
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:18 PM
Jul 2017

"....has provided “misleading” statements that are “contradicted by other evidence.”

I guess only the little people can be charged with purgery

MrPurple

(985 posts)
76. Al Franken didn't even ask him if he'd had contact with Russians, Beauregard volunteered that
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 09:27 PM
Jul 2017

Al only asked him how he would handle it if there was information that people in the administration had colluded with the Russians & Jeff volunteered that he, for one, never had any contact with them.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
81. Lot of speculation that the WH leaked this to force Sessions to resign
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 10:10 PM
Jul 2017

Thereby allowing Trump to appoint a yes-man who isn't recused and can end the Russia investigation.

Super shady, unethical, 3rd world fascist stuff going on right now. We're in deep trouble.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
86. This Is Why Grassley Will Be Holding Hearings Regarding the PeePee Dossier...
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 12:37 AM
Jul 2017

...Republicans are going to run with story line that Hillary Clinton conspired with the Russians to sabotage her own campaign.

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
83. This story stinks....
Fri Jul 21, 2017, 10:17 PM
Jul 2017

to high heaven. Sergey Kislyak is known as a spy recruiter. He knows his phones are tapped. Kislyak is just going to accidentally incriminate Jeff Sessions? Please!

We're talking about the attorney general. This would be totally crazy code word intelligence delivered on a street corner by a man in an blue jacket.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
85. The Intercepts Were Before The Election. This Is What Lead to Recusal. However...
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 12:30 AM
Jul 2017

...the timing of the leak regarding the intercepts is on the Trump administration. They are trying to force Sessions to resign so that Trump can appoint a new AG who is willing to fire Mueller. Otherwise, Trump has to start firing DOJ members before he finds his own Robert Bork.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
91. the total sinful corrupt treasonous skulldugery of the republicans
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:56 AM
Jul 2017

as they colluded with the evil empire* of russia to enable ACTS OF WAR** against America is breathtaking. How foul. How heinously foul to betray America this way.

* per ronald reagan
** per dick cheney, for god's sake (includes ongoing russian hacking of our nation's power grid, nuclear facilities, and electoral system)

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
93. what about that Republican-trump campaign man who visited the "stolen files fence" wikileaks in 2016
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 08:50 AM
Jul 2017

Who was that man, the press caught coming out of the Embassy and he refused to say why he was there?

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
94. Now we know what trump and putin discussed
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 12:28 PM
Jul 2017

at the G20.

trump: Hey. I need to get rid of sessions so that I can pack the government like you do.

putin: No sweatski. I'll get out guy to call and say sessions talked about collaborating before the election. You guys get all those calls on tape.

trump: But wouldn't that mean there's more stuff about how we worked with you.

putin: So? You got your stoolies in the senate and house. You're packing the judiciary. Everyone knows we did this together. Just talk about Mexicans and fake media. Your senseless dogs will be lapping it up. In 2018 we can run the tests with the new voter information you give us to give you both houses again and set up for jarred run in 2020. As long as the republicans would rather have a russian stooge in power rather than let a Democrat win anything, we're set.

lark

(23,160 posts)
95. Hope this is real and just just drumpf misinformation.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 12:34 PM
Jul 2017

It makes sense, so hopefully it's true, they have him dead to rights.

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