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Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:22 PM Jul 2017

McCains primary rival urges him to step aside after diagnosis and suggests she could replace him.

Source: Washington Post

A day after news came out about Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) brain cancer diagnosis, his onetime political opponent urged the ailing senator to think about his political future sooner rather than later — and expressed interest in the possibility of her taking over his Senate seat.

“I hope Sen. McCain is going to look long and hard at this, that his family and his advisers are going to look at this, and they’re going to advise him to step away as quickly as possible, so that the business of the country and the business of Arizona being represented at the federal level can move forward,” Kelli Ward, who lost to McCain in last year’s Republican primary and is now running to unseat U.S. Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), said Thursday during an interview with an Indiana radio station.

In a statement posted later on her website, Ward said McCain’s cancer is “both devastating and debilitating” and he “owes it to the people of Arizona to step aside” when he’s no longer able to perform his duties.

....

“I would never presume to say what someone’s prognosis is without having examined them. As a Christian, I know there can always be miracles. But the likelihood that John McCain is going to be able to come back to the Senate and be at full force for the people of our state and the people of the United States is low,” said Ward.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/07/22/mccains-former-rival-urges-him-to-step-aside-after-diagnosis-and-suggests-she-could-replace-him/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.4413cd3d1f87



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McCains primary rival urges him to step aside after diagnosis and suggests she could replace him. (Original Post) Princess Turandot Jul 2017 OP
Heartless opportunist. n/t pnwmom Jul 2017 #1
I'm sure the Arizona voters think so too FakeNoose Jul 2017 #23
Low and puerile, even for a GOPher. lastlib Jul 2017 #36
Well, for sure the header on this piece suggests that, Hortensis Jul 2017 #68
"As a Christian." Botany Jul 2017 #2
Pretty damn crass. dalton99a Jul 2017 #3
Sure is! Chemisse Jul 2017 #4
what a puke not fooled Jul 2017 #5
Post removed Post removed Jul 2017 #6
Such decorum, respect for the sick and elderly and veterans bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #7
Jumping the gun, especially since he said, he will be back. Alice11111 Jul 2017 #8
What I everyone above me said. nt Lucky Luciano Jul 2017 #9
Wow. What a rotten person. skylucy Jul 2017 #10
Key words...."As a Christian". George II Jul 2017 #11
Chritchens enid602 Jul 2017 #32
If McCain doesn't feel up to going back or doesn't make it, does Alice11111 Jul 2017 #12
This article explains what happens BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #16
Thx. The governor. It says, new appointee would serve to Alice11111 Jul 2017 #18
The article did link to the state law BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #26
Thank you for the clarification Alice11111 Jul 2017 #66
It's because McCain is an R, due to state law. eggplant Jul 2017 #27
Not according to section C above. If he changes parties, the appointee must be from the party he Shrike47 Jul 2017 #50
I don't know how I totally missed that! eggplant Jul 2017 #58
Legalese...written to make your brain go in circles Alice11111 Jul 2017 #65
For Arizona dbackjon Jul 2017 #38
She Is a Big Trump Supporter Who Is Running against Flake TomCADem Jul 2017 #13
Saw her on TV the other day, Ruthless repub bitch......... Old Vet Jul 2017 #28
Typical RW loon ruthlessly discards "the weak". BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #14
Typical Tactless Rethugnican behavior... Rollo Jul 2017 #15
The quicker he steps aside, the lower the chances get FBaggins Jul 2017 #69
If there's one thing to rile McCain, its something like this. OnDoutside Jul 2017 #17
Oy. Hopefully even Ariz. pukes can see BootinUp Jul 2017 #19
I know Christian's like her left-of-center2012 Jul 2017 #20
She's an old testament Christian maxrandb Jul 2017 #75
repugs are just the most dispicable people mdbl Jul 2017 #21
Kelli Ward is a real piece of shit. LS_Editor Jul 2017 #22
Scumbag. Dawson Leery Jul 2017 #24
She's probably cooked her goose TexasBushwhacker Jul 2017 #25
An article called for John McCain to just die already. A GOP official responded: Amen. keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #29
Just so pathetic rpannier Jul 2017 #30
Republican Jesus told her to do it. These people are horrendous. onecaliberal Jul 2017 #31
Kick a man while he's down why don't ya... Blue Idaho Jul 2017 #33
Trump and GOP are going to primary the other AZ Senator, Flake! Cryptoad Jul 2017 #34
She's already running against Flake... Princess Turandot Jul 2017 #35
You Republican Vulture!! The man is NOT DEAD YET, let him have a couple weeks to recover! Sunlei Jul 2017 #37
The Republican Buzzards Are Already Circling DallasNE Jul 2017 #39
Translation: OldRedneck Jul 2017 #40
Stay classy GOP IronLionZion Jul 2017 #41
MAGA aeromanKC Jul 2017 #42
Step Aside For Health Reasons erpowers Jul 2017 #43
Just when you think you have seen the worst in people, TNNurse Jul 2017 #44
B, c, s, w. You know what I am thinking Ms. "Christian." n/t rzemanfl Jul 2017 #45
Mind if I step on your face for a better view? snort Jul 2017 #46
Unbelievable! Have to stop face-palming before I injure myself. maddiemom Jul 2017 #47
She's like the daughter-in-law that your dumb son married ribrepin Jul 2017 #48
There is an unending supply of GOP super villains. bronxiteforever Jul 2017 #49
LOWLIFE Catmusicfan Jul 2017 #51
What scum these people are. CentralMass Jul 2017 #52
I call people like her " CINO's , Christians in name only . They are the majority in Congress . geretogo Jul 2017 #53
This seems crass and tactless to me, 6000eliot Jul 2017 #54
Vulture. klook Jul 2017 #55
What a fucking ghoul eom. Still In Wisconsin Jul 2017 #56
Lower than whale shit. What a despicable person. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #57
She looks so bright, too. What a grifter winner she is. Judi Lynn Jul 2017 #59
Despicable and disgusting! montana_hazeleyes Jul 2017 #60
Senator McCain hasn't even reached ambient room temperature yet. Kaleva Jul 2017 #61
This is revolting. n/t janx Jul 2017 #62
Wow how about sticking your big foot in your mouth Ms.Ward. I think you just lost. YOHABLO Jul 2017 #63
I would urge Senator McCain to pull his head out of his ass and realize this is a perfect still_one Jul 2017 #64
Political suicide? JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2017 #67
The last time I heard of someone so callous, it was Mary Beth Whitehead (Baby M) no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #70
As Joe Manchin tweeted: Tanuki Jul 2017 #71
Perfect. Thank you, Sen. Manchin n/t MBS Jul 2017 #72
Now that's real classy! Nitram Jul 2017 #73
Oh My.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2017 #74
Wow, that's low. SummerSnow Jul 2017 #76

lastlib

(23,243 posts)
36. Low and puerile, even for a GOPher.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 08:53 PM
Jul 2017

This certainly isn't what America or Arizona needs in a US Senator. Ditch this betty.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
68. Well, for sure the header on this piece suggests that,
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 07:24 AM
Jul 2017

but so do her political positions. I sure can't be bothered, though, to try to find out if she's just a true believer sincerely worried that the flow of wealth and power to the wealthy is being delayed.

She could be, though. Even if McCain is among the best of a very corrupted group, his absence is not good for their funders' extremist agenda and thus, as long as that continues, might be good for us. He'll probably be back soon, but I read speculation that, if he were to become disabled or die during this term, sentiment might actually help those pushing, like him, against the complete dismantling of our progressive institutions.

Just read. btw, that a bunch on the extreme right are cheering for MCain's tumor.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
5. what a puke
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:30 PM
Jul 2017

soulless opportunist willing to eat the other person for personal gain.

Would make a perfect addition to the modern-day puke conglomeration of crazies and vampires.



Response to Princess Turandot (Original post)

bucolic_frolic

(43,176 posts)
7. Such decorum, respect for the sick and elderly and veterans
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:31 PM
Jul 2017

she'd be a fine Republican choice

if she hasn't stabbed anybody (else) in the back

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
12. If McCain doesn't feel up to going back or doesn't make it, does
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:36 PM
Jul 2017

the Governor fill the seat or is there a special election in Arizona.
Ill remember to contribute to this woman's opponent.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
18. Thx. The governor. It says, new appointee would serve to
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:48 PM
Jul 2017

Last edited Sun Jul 23, 2017, 05:32 AM - Edit history (1)

The next gen election in 2 years. It also says the appointee would fill the rest of McCain's term, which is 5 years. Internal inconsistency. I am sure, he or she would serve out the remainder of the 6 year term.

Nonetheless, it answered my question! The Governor appoints a Republican.

BumRushDaShow

(129,079 posts)
26. The article did link to the state law
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 08:12 PM
Jul 2017

which says -

16-222. Vacancy in the office of United States senator or representative

A. When a vacancy occurs in the office of United States senator or representative in Congress by reason of death or resignation, or from any other cause, the vacancy shall be filled at the next general election. At such election the person elected shall fill the unexpired term of the vacated office.

<...>

C. For a vacancy in the office of United States senator, the governor shall appoint a person to fill the vacancy. That appointee shall be of the same political party as the person vacating the office and shall serve until the person elected at the next general election is qualified and assumes office. If the person vacating the office changed political party affiliations after taking office, the person who is appointed to fill the vacancy shall be of the same political party that the vacating officeholder was when the vacating officeholder was elected or appointed to that office.

http://www.azleg.gov/viewdocument/?docName=http://www.azleg.gov/ars/16/00222.htm

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
27. It's because McCain is an R, due to state law.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 08:18 PM
Jul 2017

If he really wants to screw over Trump & Co, he could switch parties just before retiring. Then the Gov would have to appoint a D! (Not that I think this would happen, but these days, all bets are off.)

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
50. Not according to section C above. If he changes parties, the appointee must be from the party he
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 10:42 PM
Jul 2017

was in when elected.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
58. I don't know how I totally missed that!
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 11:31 PM
Jul 2017

And I read that a bunch of times, too. Thanks for the correction!

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
38. For Arizona
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 08:57 PM
Jul 2017

Appointee must be same party as old Senator. Party of the Governor doesn't matter
Election would be held Nov of 18 for the remainder of the 6-year term.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
13. She Is a Big Trump Supporter Who Is Running against Flake
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:37 PM
Jul 2017

Talk about bloody ambition. She ran against McCain, is running against Flake, and now is demanding that McCain step down. Crazy.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
28. Saw her on TV the other day, Ruthless repub bitch.........
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 08:18 PM
Jul 2017

Wearing her big Christian cross while talking shit about Jeff Flake. And mentioning what a great honor it is to know 45 like he was a god.

BumRushDaShow

(129,079 posts)
14. Typical RW loon ruthlessly discards "the weak".
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:38 PM
Jul 2017

This may backfire on her (including her running against Flake).

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
15. Typical Tactless Rethugnican behavior...
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:39 PM
Jul 2017

There's a good chance McCain's seat will go to a Dem in '18 anyway.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
69. The quicker he steps aside, the lower the chances get
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 07:45 AM
Jul 2017

Right now, they have Ward/Flake running against each other for the 2018 nomination. The damage they'll do to each other provides our clearest shot at a pickup.

If McCain retires, then the governor can appoint Ward - clearing the decks for both candidates to focus on the general election (and giving Ward a year+ of incumbency)

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
21. repugs are just the most dispicable people
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 07:51 PM
Jul 2017

will never understand how anyone can identify with them - no matter what the lame reasons are.

keithbvadu2

(36,823 posts)
29. An article called for John McCain to just die already. A GOP official responded: Amen.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 08:21 PM
Jul 2017

An American hero --- not loved by everyone.

An article called for John McCain to ‘just … die already.’ A GOP official responded: ‘Amen.’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/18/an-article-called-for-john-mccain-to-just-die-already-a-gop-official-responded-amen/?utm_term=.a2aee7481547&wpisrc=nl_p1most-partner-1&wpmm=1

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Trump likes soldiers who were not captured.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
30. Just so pathetic
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 08:28 PM
Jul 2017

Ward said McCain’s cancer is “both devastating and debilitating”
followed later by
“I would never presume to say what someone’s prognosis is without having examined them...."

Which is it Madam?

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
33. Kick a man while he's down why don't ya...
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 08:40 PM
Jul 2017

Cruel, crass, and heartless. Just what you'd expect from a republican.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
35. She's already running against Flake...
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 08:51 PM
Jul 2017

In 2016, she received 39.2% of the R primary vote vs. McCain's 51.7% but Flake's lost supporters because he did/does not support Trump.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
37. You Republican Vulture!! The man is NOT DEAD YET, let him have a couple weeks to recover!
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 08:53 PM
Jul 2017

never though I'd feel like protecting McCain from the savage Republican Vultures!

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
39. The Republican Buzzards Are Already Circling
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 09:04 PM
Jul 2017

How classless and tasteless - apparently par for the course for a Republican - obviously a Christian value since she boasts "as a Christian".

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
40. Translation:
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 09:07 PM
Jul 2017

“I would never presume to say what someone’s prognosis is without having examined them. However, speaking as a phony Christian who uses the title to get votes from biblethumpers, I wish the old buzzard would just go ahead and croak so I can get my grubby hands on his Senate seat from which I will destroy the ACA, wipe out food stamps, build The Wall, and generally screw over all but my 1% sponsors."

Is that close enough?

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
43. Step Aside For Health Reasons
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 09:41 PM
Jul 2017

I think he should resign from the Senate in order to focus on his health. I would not want another Republican appointed in his place, but I think it is better for him to leave the Senate and spend all his time with his family and fighting Cancer. I imagine the stress of the Senate cannot be good for fighting Cancer.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
47. Unbelievable! Have to stop face-palming before I injure myself.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 10:05 PM
Jul 2017

Who would have guessed she was a Repuglican? But wait, there's more: of COURSE she would want everyone to know that she's a Christian!

ribrepin

(1,726 posts)
48. She's like the daughter-in-law that your dumb son married
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 10:20 PM
Jul 2017

Your receive a devastating diagnoses and three days later, she is hauling out the dining room table because you don't need it anymore. I'm surprised she isn't laying claim to Sedona property.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
49. There is an unending supply of GOP super villains.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 10:27 PM
Jul 2017

There must be a portal open in the country that allows evil, compassionless and stupid into our dimension.

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
53. I call people like her " CINO's , Christians in name only . They are the majority in Congress .
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 11:00 PM
Jul 2017

She can't wait to destroy peoples heath care .

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
54. This seems crass and tactless to me,
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 11:01 PM
Jul 2017

but I can't help wondering if crassness is even a thing anymore in the Trump era?

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
59. She looks so bright, too. What a grifter winner she is.
Sat Jul 22, 2017, 11:31 PM
Jul 2017


Hyuck, hyuck, hyuck.

Looks like Michelle Bachmann's sister.

still_one

(92,217 posts)
64. I would urge Senator McCain to pull his head out of his ass and realize this is a perfect
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 03:01 AM
Jul 2017

example of who makes up the republican party today, and that millions of Americans are at risk of losing their healthcare, and step up to the plate to try and prevent his party from destroying the lives of millions

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
67. Political suicide?
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 06:52 AM
Jul 2017

I think Ms Ward just sunk her chances of winning the next primary, or of being appointed (if that's how the seat is filled in case McCain can't return).

She's done.

no_hypocrisy

(46,118 posts)
70. The last time I heard of someone so callous, it was Mary Beth Whitehead (Baby M)
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 08:44 AM
Jul 2017

Post-trial, she reasoned that SHE should be raising Melissa Stern, not Elizabeth Stern, because the latter had MS and Mary Beth was "healthy". (This was taken from an interview from the Nineties, which isn't online at the moment. I have the hardcopy somewhere.)

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
71. As Joe Manchin tweeted:
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 08:57 AM
Jul 2017

"In all the ways I measure good Senate colleagues (honor, class, integrity) Kelli Ward falls short. Ppl like her aren't welcome in the US Sen


People like Kelli Ward are what's wrong with politics today. The people of AZ deserve representatives with dignity & decency.3:56 PM · Jul 22, 2017"


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