Calif. professor's e-mail reveals shooting plot
Source: Associated Press
Calif. professor's e-mail reveals shooting plot
By Gillian Flaccus, Associated Press
Updated 3h 8m ago
SANTA ANA, Calif. Rainer Reinscheid was into his second bottle of wine when he wrote a chilling e-mail titled, "a good plan," detailing violent revenge on the people he blamed for his teen son's suicide.
His son hanged himself after being disciplined at high school in March, sending the University of California, Irvine, professor into a downward spiral that authorities said led to setting fires and venting his anger in graphic e-mails describing plans for a mass murder, sexual assaults and his own death.
Reinscheid fantasized about buying a dozen machine guns, killing 200 University High School students, raping a school counselor and killing the assistant principal who disciplined his 14-year-old son, Claas Stubbe.
"I will make him cry and beg, but I will not give him a chance, just like he did to Claas," Reinscheid wrote. "I will make him die, slowly, surely. Next I will set fire to Uni High and try to burn down as much as I can, there should be nothing left that gives them a reason to continue their miserable school."
Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-08-02/california-professor-email-shooting-plot/56680754/1
valerief
(53,235 posts)do i need this?
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)since California doesn't allow "assault weapons". Can't go to another state without violating federal law, gun show or not. Since he is talking about machine guns, check out the National Firearms Act of 1934.
valerief
(53,235 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)but I prefer old school wood and steel. Maybe its for the same reason I haven't worn any camo since I retired. Either way, I would like to think both sides share the same goal of keeping weapons out of the hands of crooks and nuts, the only real disagreement being on how to get there.
SylviaD
(721 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)NJCher
(35,688 posts)The New American Dream.
Cher
twizzler
(206 posts)While I don't condone his actions, arson, I have empathy for his deep depression and I hope he gets the help he needs to come to terms with his son's suicide.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)I hope the man gets the help he needs.
Paladin
(28,264 posts)Is this a great country, or what?
(Sarcasm alert, for those who need it.)
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)He's being held in jail without bail, and will probably be charged with multiple felonies shortly.
samsingh
(17,599 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)Nope, unless he is exonerated of any wrong doing, which is about as likely as ummmmmmm me giving Mitt a puppy.
samsingh
(17,599 posts)PavePusher
(15,374 posts)samsingh
(17,599 posts)SylviaD
(721 posts)PavePusher
(15,374 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)He committed multiple acts of arson:
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 4, 2012, 06:51 PM - Edit history (1)
In a psychotic break a person loses contact with reality.
Rather it seems as though reality dealt him an incredible hard knock and to deal with it he had vengeful ideation.
A disorder that has vengeful ideation resulting from 'unfair' hard knocks in life that hasn't made it into the DSM-V:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-traumatic_embitterment_disorder
MADem
(135,425 posts)via e-mail, etc. while knocking down a 2nd!
And of course, the guy wouldn't have a name like "Joe Smith." He's got to have a "Mein-Kampf-ish" name that conjures up the worst "Raus, raus, SCHNELL!!!" stereotypes.
This guy has some issues.
Tobin S.
(10,418 posts)Alcohol can actually be conducive to writing.
MADem
(135,425 posts)....at the time.
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)Eventually he had to detox, then basically learn to paint all over again. But some people seem to have the capacity for all kinds of creativity whilst under the influence.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I'm quite sure I'd make a mess!
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)I'd just try it once since I rarely drink. Better not have improved my paintings or.......
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)prolly not.
For looser paintings try taping your hand so that you you can only paint (make motions from) from your elbow or shoulder. They'll suck at first, but as long as you already know how to draw and have a good grasp of value and color, they will improve and be more loose.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Having gone through childhood with a German name I quickly grew weary of Nazi jokes. Had this guy been Japanese I sincerely doubt you'd have made a Rape of Nanking joke, right?
MADem
(135,425 posts)jokes.
I spoke to the "worst stereotypes" that might accrue as a consequence of the guy's name.
I didn't say it was a laugh-riot.
Context is everything, ya know. You should try reading for it on occasion.
And don't demand that people ignore the obvious. That never works. Sunlight is always the best disinfectant.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Half the German movie villains ever have my family's last name (and we're not even German, unless you go back 800 years) and last I checked none of us have hatched a murderous plot lately.
Whatever you were trying to imply about the ethnic origin of his name, it sounded crazy racist.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I wasn't implying anything. I was making a direct observation. Do I actually need to provide dictionary definitions of the words "worst" and "stereotypes?"
Any racism is inherent in the existing stereotype, which I wasn't "endorsing."
Quantess
(27,630 posts)is a good amount for an unhinged writing spree.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Two drinks is about my limit these days.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)n/t
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)skills, and contributed to his son's decision to kill himself. Extremely sad story all around.
hunter
(38,317 posts)Son probably inherited dad's mental illness.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)Rather than simply being a drunk and angry idiot that probably should have kept his mouth shut?
If not then it isn't really a plot.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)I don't think a bombing or shooting spree is too much of a leap, given his mental state...
Xithras
(16,191 posts)He'll face charges for the 6 arsons though, which may put him away for quite a while.
As for the plot, he had no weapons, didn't send them to anyone as a "threat", and was under the influence when it was written. There's no way to prove that he actually intended to do anything, and they can't prosecute you just for writing something, so there's no real case against him. If he'd been buying guns or preparing for the actual massacre things would be different, but right now they're just looking at the written musings of a depressed father who had just lost his son and was under the influence of prescribed drugs and alcohol. If they bring any charges against him for it, they will likely just be used for leverage in a potential future plea agreement.